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Auria McGlennen
Void.Tech FreiTek Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2011.10.10 16:46:00 -
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I've been doing a lot of reading about WSpace now that our corp is active in it, however I cannot find anything regarding soloing Sleepers in stealth bombers. Do sleepers follow the same tracking principles as other battleships (ie BS rats in belts)? I can solo BS rats on belts and in missions just fine if they're alone (no frigates), but will sleepers be a different story?
The site I'm looking at is a C4 anomaly w/ two Sleeper BS.
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Karl Planck
Labyrinth Obtaining Chaotic Kangaroos
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Posted - 2011.10.10 16:49:00 -
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No it is no possible (least not for c4's and probably not for anything over c1's). Sleepers are fast, the small ones will kill you and the tracking of sleepers is much much better than null rats |

Auria McGlennen
Void.Tech FreiTek Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2011.10.10 16:51:00 -
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Karl Planck wrote:No it is no possible (least not for c4's and probably not for anything over c1's). Sleepers are fast, the small ones will kill you and the tracking of sleepers is much much better than null rats
Gotcha, thanks. :) I definitely wanted to make sure before I lose a ship in Wspace, hah.
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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.10 17:13:00 -
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Hello Auria McGlennen,
as it was already pointed out, it is not feasible to solo C4's in a Stealth Bomber. However, you can at least solo run the lower class wormholes, for example by using the infamous Drake. Other ships work of course as well. If you have set your mind on doing a successful solo run and if that is your goal for now in EVE, then you can have a lot of fun. Not only are the Sleepers an opponent not to be taken lightly but also the challenges of nullsec space and additionally no local channel can make it a worthwhile experience! CCP Phantom | German Community Coordinator |
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FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
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Posted - 2011.10.10 20:31:00 -
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Only thing I've seen anyone reliably solo a C4 in, is a Tengu.
I wouldn't recommend even using a bomber in a C1, those frigates would murderize you and your lack of a tank. |

grumpyguts1
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.10 20:33:00 -
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Just to add.. since the neuting has been fixed, it is alomst impossible to solo C4 anoms. Used to be able to in a decent fit Tengu. Guess you could possibly run a C4 anom in a carrier :) |

dephekt
Bite me inc. Narwhals Ate My Duck
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Posted - 2011.10.11 00:44:00 -
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grumpyguts1 wrote:Just to add.. since the neuting has been fixed, it is alomst impossible to solo C4 anoms. Used to be able to in a decent fit Tengu. Guess you could possibly run a C4 anom in a carrier :)
Quoted for truth. I'd love to see more carriers running combat sites alone in w-space. If it's not too much to ask, ignore any Sister's Core probes you see on d-scan too.
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Tauren Tom
Order of the Silver Dragons Clone Vat
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Posted - 2011.10.11 14:30:00 -
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CCP Phantom wrote:Hello Auria McGlennen,
as it was already pointed out, it is not feasible to solo C4's in a Stealth Bomber. However, you can at least solo run the lower class wormholes, for example by using the infamous Drake. Other ships work of course as well. If you have set your mind on doing a successful solo run and if that is your goal for now in EVE, then you can have a lot of fun. Not only are the Sleepers an opponent not to be taken lightly but also the challenges of nullsec space and additionally no local channel can make it a worthwhile experience!
Wait a second here. A Dev just admitted the Drake is op! NERFBAT NAO |

Mart Allini
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2011.10.11 14:38:00 -
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dephekt wrote:grumpyguts1 wrote:Just to add.. since the neuting has been fixed, it is alomst impossible to solo C4 anoms. Used to be able to in a decent fit Tengu. Guess you could possibly run a C4 anom in a carrier :) Quoted for truth. I'd love to see more carriers running combat sites alone in w-space. If it's not too much to ask, ignore any Sister's Core probes you see on d-scan too.  
What are you doing using core probes trying to catch people?
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Tauren Tom
Order of the Silver Dragons Clone Vat
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Posted - 2011.10.11 15:13:00 -
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Mart Allini wrote:dephekt wrote:grumpyguts1 wrote:Just to add.. since the neuting has been fixed, it is alomst impossible to solo C4 anoms. Used to be able to in a decent fit Tengu. Guess you could possibly run a C4 anom in a carrier :) Quoted for truth. I'd love to see more carriers running combat sites alone in w-space. If it's not too much to ask, ignore any Sister's Core probes you see on d-scan too.   What are you doing using core probes trying to catch people?
Simple :)
Find anom. Warp to anom cloaked. If carrier=true, Warp fleet to cov ops frig and own carrier :D |

Jovan Geldon
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2011.10.11 15:38:00 -
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Auria McGlennen wrote:soloing Sleepers in stealth bombers
Ahahahaha-
Oh wait, you're serious. Let me laugh even harder.
AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Edit for usefulness:- No, it's not happening, use a Drake for >=C3 and rem-rep Tengu gang for >=C4 |

dephekt
Bite me inc. Narwhals Ate My Duck
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Posted - 2011.10.11 18:35:00 -
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Mart Allini wrote:dephekt wrote:grumpyguts1 wrote:Just to add.. since the neuting has been fixed, it is alomst impossible to solo C4 anoms. Used to be able to in a decent fit Tengu. Guess you could possibly run a C4 anom in a carrier :) Quoted for truth. I'd love to see more carriers running combat sites alone in w-space. If it's not too much to ask, ignore any Sister's Core probes you see on d-scan too.   What are you doing using core probes trying to catch people?
lol I was waiting for someone to say that. Go run a mag site in your carrier and I'll show you what I'm doing with those core probes  |

grumpyguts1
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.11 21:19:00 -
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dephekt wrote:Mart Allini wrote:dephekt wrote:grumpyguts1 wrote:Just to add.. since the neuting has been fixed, it is alomst impossible to solo C4 anoms. Used to be able to in a decent fit Tengu. Guess you could possibly run a C4 anom in a carrier :) Quoted for truth. I'd love to see more carriers running combat sites alone in w-space. If it's not too much to ask, ignore any Sister's Core probes you see on d-scan too.   What are you doing using core probes trying to catch people? lol I was waiting for someone to say that. Go run a mag site in your carrier and I'll show you what I'm doing with those core probes 
dang.. a small piece of me was hoping you were being serious trying to gank people in an anom with probes. |

Tonemaster B
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.13 20:00:00 -
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Tauren Tom wrote:Mart Allini wrote:dephekt wrote:grumpyguts1 wrote:Just to add.. since the neuting has been fixed, it is alomst impossible to solo C4 anoms. Used to be able to in a decent fit Tengu. Guess you could possibly run a C4 anom in a carrier :) Quoted for truth. I'd love to see more carriers running combat sites alone in w-space. If it's not too much to ask, ignore any Sister's Core probes you see on d-scan too.   What are you doing using core probes trying to catch people? Simple :) Find anom. Warp to anom cloaked. If carrier=true, Warp fleet to cov ops frig and own carrier :D
What are you doing using core probes to find anoms?
Don't need probes to find anoms just use your on board scanner silly.
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ChiefAlex
Cha Ching LtD Ewoks
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Posted - 2011.10.14 10:51:00 -
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Tonemaster B wrote: What are you doing using core probes to find anoms?
Don't need probes to find anoms just use your on board scanner silly.
Anomalies yes. Signatures (Magno+Radars) not. btw C4 sigs contain alot of warp disrupting sleepers. Even if you see the probes in your carrier, you are in big trouble. |

Dradius Calvantia
Creative Cookie Procuring Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2011.10.16 08:32:00 -
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Meh.. two ways to do it IMO. Either use T1 core probes (not the sisters) in order to get in to the site early and hope that the mission runner did not see them, or just assumes it was a noob scout on his tutorial mission. Or, use sisters combats and land at zero on your target hoping that your target does not have time to warp out before you get there.
In either case, if your probes are on their scan for more than 10-15 seconds.. you are doing it wrong.
Which method you use depends a lot on your fleet comp (if your using bombers or other ships that you do not want to have sleepers shooting at, then you are getting into the site at range and waiting till he finishes.) Personally, I have more success using cores on site runners, and combats on miners.
Of course, people running combat sites are just stupid easy to catch. |

Taram Caldar
Royal Black Watch Highlanders
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Posted - 2011.10.16 17:33:00 -
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Mart Allini wrote:dephekt wrote:grumpyguts1 wrote:Just to add.. since the neuting has been fixed, it is alomst impossible to solo C4 anoms. Used to be able to in a decent fit Tengu. Guess you could possibly run a C4 anom in a carrier :) Quoted for truth. I'd love to see more carriers running combat sites alone in w-space. If it's not too much to ask, ignore any Sister's Core probes you see on d-scan too.   What are you doing using core probes trying to catch people?
Because people tend to ignore core probes whereas combat probes spook them (Don't ask me why, there's lots of stupid people out there)... combat probes work well too but I've found that people very often ignore core probes. Why? No idea... but they do.
Scan sites down, check sites cloaked, tackle pilot who didn't safe up when probes not belonging to him are on scan, call in DPS, kill pilot's shiny toy, loot & salvage.... profit.
Been a while since I went WH hunting... I should probably start doing that again ;)
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grumpyguts1
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.16 19:29:00 -
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Taram Caldar wrote:Mart Allini wrote:dephekt wrote:grumpyguts1 wrote:Just to add.. since the neuting has been fixed, it is alomst impossible to solo C4 anoms. Used to be able to in a decent fit Tengu. Guess you could possibly run a C4 anom in a carrier :) Quoted for truth. I'd love to see more carriers running combat sites alone in w-space. If it's not too much to ask, ignore any Sister's Core probes you see on d-scan too.   What are you doing using core probes trying to catch people? Because people tend to ignore core probes whereas combat probes spook them (Don't ask me why, there's lots of stupid people out there)... combat probes work well too but I've found that people very often ignore core probes. Why? No idea... but they do. Scan sites down, check sites cloaked, tackle pilot who didn't safe up when probes not belonging to him are on scan, call in DPS, kill pilot's shiny toy, loot & salvage.... profit. Been a while since I went WH hunting... I should probably start doing that again ;)
A lot of WH dwellers ignore core probes as they believe the user is just passing through, I used to.. not anymore though. And as mentioned in a C4 sites you scrammed a lot of the time.. so you pretty screwed if a crew jumps you. You could hope for the sleepers to switch to the attackers, but sadly this doesn't happen fast enough. So basically if a PVP crew want you and they are in a better fleet, which they will be otherwise the not going to egress, you're dead That said, always have an alt in the hole that can get you back in when you podded...
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Tyme Xandr
State Protectorate Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.17 23:55:00 -
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Tauren Tom wrote:CCP Phantom wrote:Hello Auria McGlennen,
as it was already pointed out, it is not feasible to solo C4's in a Stealth Bomber. However, you can at least solo run the lower class wormholes, for example by using the infamous Drake. Other ships work of course as well. If you have set your mind on doing a successful solo run and if that is your goal for now in EVE, then you can have a lot of fun. Not only are the Sleepers an opponent not to be taken lightly but also the challenges of nullsec space and additionally no local channel can make it a worthwhile experience! Wait a second here. A Dev just admitted the Drake is op! NERFBAT NAO
I figure ur trolling, but the Drake is prefered for PVE (especially in WH) due to range with HLs, no cap needed for them, and a decent shield buffer.
Also, ive soloed C1 and C2 back in the day with AF's. OP should try them out in that. |

Comy 1
Ore Mongers Indecisive Certainty
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Posted - 2011.10.18 05:53:00 -
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Tengus will solo C4 anomalies and sites. I would however avoid the radar/mag sites with the quad safeguard spawn if you are in there alone.
I have done this myself in my active tanked Tengu after the neut fix, even if I rather do it with friends since solo grinding is really boring. Neuts do hurt if you let them, but a smart player will find ways to outsmart the sleepers. |

iNFoRMaLiTY11
Lone Star Exploration Narwhals Ate My Duck
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Posted - 2011.10.18 09:42:00 -
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Im going to do a shameless plug for my CEO.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=6479
Thats some useful reading.
My 2 cents:
Soloing is possible in decently fitted ship in lower class wormholes, battlecruisers (drake is not the only solution), HACS, T3-s something in the lines of that.
Please understand that WH space was meant as one of the many options in EvE for "end game" PvE activity. As a mmo "end game" is in its essence an activity that is massivly more efficient if there are multiple players compared to solo solutions.
There are tons of wh corporations and alliances that are looking for more players. Try The Night Crew, Aperture Harmonics, Lone Star Exploration, K162, Narwahls Ate my Duck or just check the forum recruitment threads. Good corps tend to do more of the "sweet and tasty" sites and sometimes use capital escalations for better isk and soloers/tiny corps tend to do the leftovers, lower classes and garbage sites.
Same goes for pvp activities. There are many pvp focused wh corps/alliances. And yes solo is an option too but its the question of effectivness and reason. Its an mmo, team up, kick butt and chew bubblegum. |

Mr Bigwinky
Click Click BOOM 4U Holdings Inc
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Posted - 2011.10.20 10:51:00 -
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dephekt wrote:Mart Allini wrote:dephekt wrote:grumpyguts1 wrote:Just to add.. since the neuting has been fixed, it is alomst impossible to solo C4 anoms. Used to be able to in a decent fit Tengu. Guess you could possibly run a C4 anom in a carrier :) Quoted for truth. I'd love to see more carriers running combat sites alone in w-space. If it's not too much to ask, ignore any Sister's Core probes you see on d-scan too.   What are you doing using core probes trying to catch people? lol I was waiting for someone to say that. Go run a mag site in your carrier and I'll show you what I'm doing with those core probes 
You'll still be much better off using combats for 2 reasons
1: Carrier is FAT and should only take 1 scan at 4 - 8au 2: MAGs are one of the hardest to scan down.
Use D-scan to see where he is, find a rough distance, drop probes off of scan, flash him once with probes and recall instantly, fleet warp fleet to 0 (assuming you've got the right fleet composition) |

Dielax
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.22 01:25:00 -
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this one time at band camp...... stuffed a stealth bomber in a wormhole.....
Had to self destruct my pod to get back to normal space.  |

xenodia
DYNAMIC INTERVENTION ORPHANS OF EVE
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Posted - 2011.10.24 19:16:00 -
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Auria McGlennen wrote:I've been doing a lot of reading about WSpace now that our corp is active in it, however I cannot find anything regarding soloing Sleepers in stealth bombers. Do sleepers follow the same tracking principles as other battleships (ie BS rats in belts)? I can solo BS rats on belts and in missions just fine if they're alone (no frigates), but will sleepers be a different story?
The site I'm looking at is a C4 anomaly w/ two Sleeper BS.
1) a single stealth bomber would lack the DPS to kill a frigate in most c4 sites, let alone a battleship. C4 sites have lots of RR.
2) Even if the RR didnt prevent you from killing the bs, death by all the BS's escorts would. I cant off the top of my head think of a C4 site that doesnt have at least SOME cruisers and/or frigates, and I live in a C4. Also, since in a C4 even the bs will scram, web, and nos you (all from extreme range i might add), you will quickly be toast.
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