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Angel HUN
Spricer Raiden.
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Posted - 2011.10.10 17:50:00 -
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Can you allow my Nyx to dock since I am now a gimped carrier? |

Grarr Dexx
Snuff Box
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Posted - 2011.10.10 17:52:00 -
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so buttmad |

Sylar McIntyr
Konstrukteure der Zukunft The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.10.10 17:53:00 -
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U mad? |

Lady Go Diveher
The Independent Troll Society
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Posted - 2011.10.10 17:53:00 -
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First tears from Raiden.
Who wudda thunk it? ;) |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.10 17:54:00 -
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It wouldn't fit the pipe!!
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Angel HUN
Spricer Raiden.
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Posted - 2011.10.10 17:54:00 -
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Chribba wrote:It wouldn't fit the pipe!!
Oh, i'll make it fit. |

Grarr Dexx
Snuff Box
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Posted - 2011.10.10 18:00:00 -
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that's what she said |

Zeekar
Spricer Raiden.
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Posted - 2011.10.10 18:02:00 -
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Angel HUN wrote:Chribba wrote:It wouldn't fit the pipe!! Oh, i'll make it fit.
If he fits his head in, the nyx is not a problem. |

xxxak
Intergalactic Syndicate Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2011.10.10 18:03:00 -
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I support this proposal. |

Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.10 18:06:00 -
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how is it gimped, u still have fighter bombers, u have a little less EHP and u can't logoff to save yourself. |

Angel HUN
Spricer Raiden.
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Posted - 2011.10.10 18:07:00 -
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Supercarriers, more like superbad carriers.
Take the logical fix (nerf HP/Buff Dreads) and combine with asshattery (Nerf Fighters... really who uses those? + The obvious Drone bay Nerf) and make DERP.
**as a side: Why would you even include the Hel as a supercarrier, its already pre-nerfed. |

Thomas Abernathy
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.10 18:14:00 -
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Lady Go Diveher wrote:First tears from Raiden.
Who wudda thunk it? ;)
Really? Cause the smaller corps and alliances are the ones that got screwed in this nerf. As long as you can field a subcap fleet, you can throw the blob down anytime you like. |

Rhaegor Stormborn
BURN EDEN Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.10.10 18:19:00 -
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I would like to dock mine as well. Especially with the aggro issues. Very scary logging out even without aggro. You never know what might happen with these changes. |

Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
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Posted - 2011.10.10 18:49:00 -
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Chribba wrote:It wouldn't fit the pipe!!
Well, battleships are 2/3 the size of a carrier, but you can fit two of them inside of their hangars. I'm sure whatever lubricating technology is responsible can be used to allow supercaps to dock.
Not that we need supercap station games, anyways. Just sayin'.....
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Karim alRashid
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.10 18:55:00 -
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Just self-destruct them.  |

Angel HUN
Spricer Raiden.
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Posted - 2011.10.10 19:39:00 -
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Karim alRashid wrote:Just self-destruct them. 
I'd rather reprocess it and build things that may be useful or ::gasp:: fun.
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Logical Chaos
The Ankou Raiden.
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Posted - 2011.10.10 19:43:00 -
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Chribba wrote:It wouldn't fit the pipe!!
Doesn't matter if it breaks in the process. You only have to dock it once. |

Spectre80
The Knights Templar Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.10.10 20:08:00 -
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Angel HUN wrote:Can you allow my Nyx to dock since I am now a gimped carrier?
QQ |

Headerman
Quovis Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.10.10 20:12:00 -
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Angel, congrats on your Nyx man :D
Now i just got to get my Nyx and 2 Aeons built.... [img]http://i53.tinypic.com/bebnf8.jpg[/img] |

Cypermethren
Hardcore p0wnography Cascade Probable
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Posted - 2011.10.10 20:13:00 -
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Angel HUN wrote:Supercarriers, more like superbad carriers. Take the logical fix (nerf HP/Buff Dreads) and combine with asshattery (Nerf Fighters... really who uses those? + The obvious Drone bay Nerf) and make DERP. **as a side: Why would you even include the Hel as a supercarrier, its already pre-nerfed. Herping yourDerp wrote:how is it gimped, u still have fighter bombers, u have a little less EHP and u can't logoff to save yourself. So now characters who are stuck in these ships who are already mostly offline or unused due to their limited role, are going to be utilized even less frequently now that they have a single niche role. This doesnt ACTUALLY solve the problem, if anything it will cause even MORE proliferation.
You mean it'll encourage more fleetfights with subcaps, and roams beucase all the people whom have ceased doing this ahve turned into super hotdroppers?
I love you're tears! |

Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.10 20:26:00 -
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Angel HUN wrote:Can you allow my Nyx to dock since I am now a gimped carrier?
No, you can also rep your friends, help taking down carriers/other supers/titans.
It's not like if you were flying some blaster mega in low sec heh? |

Angel HUN
Spricer Raiden.
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Posted - 2011.10.10 20:29:00 -
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Cypermethren wrote:Angel HUN wrote:Supercarriers, more like superbad carriers. Take the logical fix (nerf HP/Buff Dreads) and combine with asshattery (Nerf Fighters... really who uses those? + The obvious Drone bay Nerf) and make DERP. **as a side: Why would you even include the Hel as a supercarrier, its already pre-nerfed. Herping yourDerp wrote:how is it gimped, u still have fighter bombers, u have a little less EHP and u can't logoff to save yourself. So now characters who are stuck in these ships who are already mostly offline or unused due to their limited role, are going to be utilized even less frequently now that they have a single niche role. This doesnt ACTUALLY solve the problem, if anything it will cause even MORE proliferation. You mean it'll encourage more fleetfights with subcaps, and roams beucase all the people whom have ceased doing this ahve turned into super hotdroppers? I love you're tears!
*Your tears*
Anyways, no. What will happen is any fight will be down to Quantity of Pilots present per side, there are no effective force multipliers (besides ECM On a smaller scale) left.
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Djakku
Pod Liberation Authority HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.10.10 20:49:00 -
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As a small gang / solo -never-flown-a-cap-never-will pilot, I can see where AngelHUN is coming from...
If you're in a Nyx you're spending 90% of your play time logged off as it is, now when you do decided to engage with your supercaps, you're gonna have to make damned sure you're gonna win or die very quickly, or else you're gonna be online for fukken hours trying to get out of an engagement, I can honestly see people just not using supers at all after these changes.
Basically, the "argueably-end-game-ships" have gone from boring to play, to more boring to play...
As with most of the problems with EVE, I dunno if Supers being OP is even the problem in the first place, more like just people having way too much ISK to buy n build loads of Supers, due to meta-gaming and taking this serious internet spaceship game too seriously, but at the end of the day that's the game, the problem is the game. the game. THE GAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEE /0\ *implodes self* |

Angel HUN
Spricer Raiden.
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Posted - 2011.10.10 21:26:00 -
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Djakku wrote:As a small gang / solo -never-flown-a-cap-never-will pilot, I can see where AngelHUN is coming from...
If you're in a Nyx you're spending 90% of your play time logged off as it is, now when you do decided to engage with your supercaps, you're gonna have to make damned sure you're gonna win or die very quickly, or else you're gonna be online for fukken hours trying to get out of an engagement, I can honestly see people just not using supers at all after these changes.
Basically, the "argueably-end-game-ships" have gone from boring to play, to more boring to play...
As with most of the problems with EVE, I dunno if Supers being OP is even the problem in the first place, more like just people having way too much ISK to buy n build loads of Supers, due to meta-gaming and taking this serious internet spaceship game too seriously, but at the end of the day that's the game, the problem is the game. the game. THE GAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEE /0\ *implodes self*
Nailed it.
I agree they needed changing.
But now its back to lolMotherships again. |

Mashie Saldana
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2011.10.10 22:11:00 -
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Angel HUN wrote:Karim alRashid wrote:Just self-destruct them.  I'd rather reprocess it and build things that may be useful or ::gasp:: fun. Isn't it unfortunate you have to dock it for that? [Insert signature image here] |

Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.10 22:18:00 -
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Angel HUN wrote:Anyways, no. What will happen is any fight will be down to Quantity of Pilots present per side, there are no effective force multipliers (besides ECM On a smaller scale) left.
Sounds perfect
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

Headerman
Quovis Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.10.10 22:21:00 -
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Djakku wrote:As a small gang / solo -never-flown-a-cap-never-will pilot, I can see where AngelHUN is coming from...
If you're in a Nyx you're spending 90% of your play time logged off as it is, now when you do decided to engage with your supercaps, you're gonna have to make damned sure you're gonna win or die very quickly, or else you're gonna be online for fukken hours trying to get out of an engagement, I can honestly see people just not using supers at all after these changes.
Basically, the "argueably-end-game-ships" have gone from boring to play, to more boring to play...
As with most of the problems with EVE, I dunno if Supers being OP is even the problem in the first place, more like just people having way too much ISK to buy n build loads of Supers, due to meta-gaming and taking this serious internet spaceship game too seriously, but at the end of the day that's the game, the problem is the game. the game. THE GAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEE /0\ *implodes self*
Dood nobody cares :P
Seriously though, it's gonna result in more blobbing, just to make sure [img]http://i53.tinypic.com/bebnf8.jpg[/img] |

Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation RONA Directorate
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Posted - 2011.10.10 22:24:00 -
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Thomas Abernathy wrote:Lady Go Diveher wrote:First tears from Raiden.
Who wudda thunk it? ;) Really? Cause the smaller corps and alliances are the ones that got screwed in this nerf. As long as you can field a subcap fleet, you can throw the blob down anytime you like.
how did smaller corps and alliances get screwed, if anything this nerf helps them defend against being blobbed by super caps and allows the smaller ones who only have dreads and carriers at least some sort of chance of living in a fight.
oh yeah raiden tears are good.
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Headerman
Quovis Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.10.10 22:26:00 -
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Obsidian Hawk wrote:Thomas Abernathy wrote:Lady Go Diveher wrote:First tears from Raiden.
Who wudda thunk it? ;) Really? Cause the smaller corps and alliances are the ones that got screwed in this nerf. As long as you can field a subcap fleet, you can throw the blob down anytime you like. how did smaller corps and alliances get screwed, if anything this nerf helps them defend against being blobbed by super caps and allows the smaller ones who only have dreads and carriers at least some sort of chance of living in a fight. oh yeah raiden tears are good.
Dood i don't think they are gonna be crying when they use 60 SCs instead of 40 from now on [img]http://i53.tinypic.com/bebnf8.jpg[/img] |

Grimpak
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
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Posted - 2011.10.10 22:30:00 -
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Angel HUN wrote:Anyways, no. What will happen is any fight will be down to Quantity of Pilots present per side, there are no effective force multipliers (besides ECM On a smaller scale) left.
so that means that one can finally bring a logistics cruiser and not be afraid to be DD'ed on the first minutes of the fight?
awesome. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |

Angel HUN
Spricer Raiden.
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Posted - 2011.10.10 22:33:00 -
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Grimpak wrote:Angel HUN wrote:Anyways, no. What will happen is any fight will be down to Quantity of Pilots present per side, there are no effective force multipliers (besides ECM On a smaller scale) left.
so that means that one can finally bring a logistics cruiser and not be afraid to be DD'ed on the first minutes of the fight? awesome.
I got DD'ed all the time. I agree with the DD change, it makes sense. Heavy-handed Across the board changes are not the answer for the scenario.
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