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Megadon
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Posted - 2005.07.08 00:48:00 -
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Please excuse my rant, and I'm not really a negative person there is some great discussion here on the patch and all, but at the end of the day, the caldari got ******. It's not about ruining my 'teh win' raven or whatever, it's about nerfing an entire race (since caldari use missiles extensively in case you hadn't noticed) so badly that they are crippled. I do missions, npc and pvp in a variety of caldari ships and things have changed drastically to the point where I am just plain ineffective in a lot of situations, mainly doing lvl 4 missions and trying to kill rats in 0 space. It's a bummer cause i have a $220 million isk care bear now... lol.
I parked my raven and ferox and now use a brutix and dom. The thing that ****es a lot of people off is that this latest patch didn't just balance the Raven, which needed to happen, but it nerfed an entire race. There are many players that cannot use their ships.
If you area new player, a kestrel with only rocket launchers? Isn't the Kestrel a missile boat? Isn't it a new player ship more or less? Well, your going to have to train long and hard to get it to be effective again. Forget about doing lvl 2 missions with rockets.
My dismay isn't so much about nerfing as it is about playing a game where the developers make a decision to basically crap on an entire race. If you're going to make changes fine... but do you have to do them all at once? Do you have to **** so many people off? It's just weird and i don't get it :-/ If it seems too much like I am whining, please give me some cheeeeeese.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.07.08 00:49:00 -
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NO OTHER FRIGATE IN EVE CAN FIT ALL THE BEST GUNS WITHOUT MAPCs.
Now the kestrel is just like every other frigate in EVE. It can do just fine with 3 standards or 4 rockets, dont you think?
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Sicori Malaki
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Posted - 2005.07.08 00:56:00 -
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.. I usually do fine in a punisher with good guns without any micro aux ...
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Tekka
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Posted - 2005.07.08 00:56:00 -
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Edited by: Tekka on 08/07/2005 00:56:11
Not another....
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Ticondrius
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Posted - 2005.07.08 01:00:00 -
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I have a 6 day old noob in my corp flying a kestrel around and beating the crap out of belt rats. He has no trouble whatsoever with rockets, and he's got 5 of the 6 nwe missile skills at level 3.
So, go train your new skills like everyone else and STFU!
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baastaige
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Posted - 2005.07.08 01:08:00 -
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I only have 2 things to say:
drones
hybrids
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F'nog
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Posted - 2005.07.08 01:10:00 -
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Yay, we SO needed a new thread about this topic. Thank god. No one else has already voiced a similar opinion anywhere else on the boards.
 Originally by: Morela
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Necrologic
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Posted - 2005.07.08 01:12:00 -
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I disagree.
/me goes back to training for caldari bs.
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MAcheTT3
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Posted - 2005.07.08 01:15:00 -
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*MAcheTT3 yawns loudly.
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Bull Slater
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Posted - 2005.07.08 01:17:00 -
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I'm training up the new skills and already seeing the benefits but I do not like how the NPCs use of missiles is still basically pre-patch or worse. What do I mean? Pre-patch my resists would limit damage of heavy missiles etc... to a set amount, for example 150 for devastator cruise missile, it's still the same. Granted this was in my Raven so that may be it but that does not explain what happened earlier today on a level 4 mission. I was on the level 4 Vengeance, all going well and the now 600k battleships (previously 1.25m) doing around 281 damage with an EM torpedo against me with my 50% EM shield hardener going.
Last stage I get to and the main bad guy there starts hitting me with EM torpedos for 550+ damage, with my hardener running. I thought maybe it was a bug so turned off the hardener to see if I took the same damage and I was hit for over 1100 damage. It hurt, I managed to kill the battleship but that's not the point. Either nerf the damage done OR the bounties, NOT BOTH! Players have to adapt, I'm fine with that and am training the skills up as needed to get back to where I was but cutting bounties in half, increasing NPC damage by double and having to learn new skills at the same time is a little much. I hope this isn't the final state of play and that there are bug fixes being worked on.
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Teblin
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Posted - 2005.07.08 01:26:00 -
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I'm locking this for flamebait. Do not start a new thread about the missile changes as it's clear people will not post contructively in them. Instead, post any constructive thoughts you have on the new patch in this thread.
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Sorja
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Posted - 2005.07.08 01:39:00 -
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Seeing my Moa in my hangar in ROIR-Y, I wanted to give it a try for the fun of it.
I have trained the new missile skills since patch and with 2,6 millions in learnings I have the rank 2 skills at level 3 and the rank 5 at level 2.
So I equipped my Moa with arbalest assault launchers (I have tons of them since they had no value before patch), sure that they would rock now against frigates, being the right size for the right target.
I engaged a belt spawn (2 cruisers 3 frigates) and fired my 250 rails at one cruiser while spamming Bloodclaws at one frigate (well, not really spamming, the RoF is lower than before even with the new skills).
I killed the cruiser before the frigate would die, I was scoring 35 to 40 on it with my light missiles and it could out-tank me!
Since I was scrambled (didn't remember low level belts spawns scrambled before) I would have died if a friend of mine didn't pop in and kill the frigs in one or two volleys with his heavy pulses.
I don't care much about the Raven, it was only my cash cow to replace my losses since I'm not very fond on battleships for PvP and the Raven was crap for fleet battles, but I had GREAT HOPES for the Hawk, a ship that I love.
I have 14 Hawks in my hangars (yes, fourteen) since I love that Merlin on steroids and was sure it would be worth flying after the missile overhaul (at that time, I used to think it would be an overhaul, not a nerf).
It looks I will still flying my harpies.
My only remaining hope about missile ships is my Cerberus, but this hope is getting slighter and slighter.
P.S.: Shocked by my Moa performance, I went to another belt in raptor with rocket launchers and 125 rails. My rails were scoring for twice the damage of my rockets.
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