
Je'ron
The Happy Shooters
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Posted - 2013.03.04 17:33:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Eve physics 101, an active MWD increases a ships mass as well as its speed. A cruiser fitted with an active 10MN MWD gets a 500,000 kg mass increase and 500% speed increase. Change the MWD to a 100MN and that mass increase is 50,000,000 kg with a much greater increase in speed, although it'll handle like an ocean liner.
Wrong, 100MN doesn't have a much greater increase in speed. it is still 500%
Jonah Gravenstein wrote: A bare stabber has a mass of 10,000,000 kg, a 10MN MWD stabber has an increased mass of 15,000,000 kg with the MWD active and no other modules fitted. A bare mackinaw masses 20,000,000 kg, take a 15,000,000 kg item travelling at 2000-2500m/s (dependent on skills) and hit a stationary 20,000,000 kg object with it, what do you think will happen, even with real world physics?
Adding max 35,000m3 ore at 3,000 kg/m3 (give or take), taking into account partial inelastic collision, less than perfect contacts and dampening of thrusters the mack should get less than 10% initial velocity of the stabber and should be able to come to a stop within a reasonable time/distance, not in the ridiculous dimensions that are currently happening in EVE. However the Stabber is likely to see collision damage to the extend of structural failure.
For frigate-freighter bumps to prevent warp/jump/docking the current behaviour is even more ridiculous
Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Velocity matters, an 8 gram lump of lead shot from a rifle is more than enough to knock a 100 kg human flat on his arse. A MWD cruiser can travel considerably faster than a bullet shot from an M16 (950ish m/s IIRC) and weighs about 15,000,000 kg more than the bullet.
Velocity matters, but momentum matters more. 8gr lead resulting in 100kg human on his arse is not about velocity, but about balance. The human topples over, but is not propelled x meters backwards (just like the shooter is not landing on his arse (action-reaction thing) If science is too hard for you try more easily consumable form: MythBusters season 3 episodes 1 and 19 |