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Soros	Posted - 2005.07.09 19:25:00 - [1] Well, as I have searched for a topic on this, and I cant seem to find one i have decided to post. This is when a claw is setup with AC's and a plate, last night a orbited one such claw in my crusader knowing his setup and thanks to its amarr resitances I couldn't break the claw's tank, I disengaged him and headed back to my home system. Later that night two of my alliance mates both in taranis' died to this setup and today two vengeace's died to one, now, the question is: How do you kill one in an interseptor or af, my amarr inti's cant break its tank, nor could my crow with bloodclaws, taranis' cant break its 400mm plate + small rep tank bfore they get torn apart, af's cant hit it, enyo with blasters? ishkur with nos? I am guessing a wolf and a jaguar with autocannons could kill one but I don't fly minimtar, so flying gallente or amarr how can I kill an autocannon setup claw? Soros -= Soros =- = Firmux Ixion =
Naughty Boy	Posted - 2005.07.09 19:28:00 - [2] Edited by: Naughty Boy on 09/07/2005 19:33:16 double web [EDIT]in your ishkur[/EDIT] Nice claw setup though... Sincerly Yours, The Naughty Boy.
Imhotep Khem	Posted - 2005.07.09 19:45:00 - [3] I think the question is moot. You don't get in that position vs. a claw. You use long range. The Claw setup is a gamble in that it does not have closing ability since its lacking mwd and AB. If you insist on jousting with a Claw, it will insist on killing you. ____ If your not dyin' your not tryin'.
Meridius	Posted - 2005.07.09 19:49:00 - [4] Stop trying to engage it within it's optimal ________________________________________________________
Soros	Posted - 2005.07.09 19:57:00 - [5] Edited by: Soros on 09/07/2005 19:56:50 Originally by: Meridius Stop trying to engage it within it's optimal Cant break its tank otherwise :( -= Soros =- = Firmux Ixion =
Baddy	Posted - 2005.07.09 19:59:00 - [6] thorax with 5x150mmII
juduzz	Posted - 2005.07.09 20:01:00 - [7] dual web ranis with a plate. Plated crow ( not tried since patch) Rail ranis. Unless hes doing the setup with no MWD specifilcaly designed to kill Af's and close range inties then just keep at range ----------------------------------------------
Meridius	Posted - 2005.07.09 20:02:00 - [8] Originally by: Soros Edited by: Soros on 09/07/2005 19:56:50 Originally by: Meridius Stop trying to engage it within it's optimal Cant break its tank otherwise :( I'm quite certain it can't run that small rep II forever so it should die eventually ________________________________________________________
Julien Derida	Posted - 2005.07.09 20:03:00 - [9] Edited by: Julien Derida on 09/07/2005 20:04:00 Originally by: Soros Cant break its tank otherwise :( It doesn't have the cap to sustain that tank forever, so long range could be viable if you are careful. Close range is more fun though Personally I'd have a pop at it in a 400mm Taranis: 3xLight Electron IIs 1xSmall Nos 1xMWD 2xWeb 2xMAPC 1x400mm Rolled Tungsten This setup has marginally more armour than a similar Claw (enough to offset 1 armour rep cycle). It also deals significantly more damage than the Claw (around 110 DPS vs 90 DPS). ACs hit a lot further out that Electrons, so you need to ensure you close quickly. Hence the double-web. Give it a try, you should have a reasonable stab at winning. Edit: Dammit Juduzz beat me by two mins :/ ---------------------------------------- Chief Inspector of the Style Police - FRICK
Meridius	Posted - 2005.07.09 20:57:00 - [10] Originally by: Julien Derida Edited by: Julien Derida on 09/07/2005 20:04:00 Originally by: Soros Cant break its tank otherwise :( It doesn't have the cap to sustain that tank forever, so long range could be viable if you are careful. Close range is more fun though Personally I'd have a pop at it in a 400mm Taranis: 3xLight Electron IIs 1xSmall Nos 1xMWD 2xWeb 2xMAPC 1x400mm Rolled Tungsten This setup has marginally more armour than a similar Claw (enough to offset 1 armour rep cycle). It also deals significantly more damage than the Claw (around 110 DPS vs 90 DPS). ACs hit a lot further out that Electrons, so you need to ensure you close quickly. Hence the double-web. Give it a try, you should have a reasonable stab at winning. Edit: Dammit Juduzz beat me by two mins :/ The plate claw does 120ish DPS from what i've heard ________________________________________________________
Amrotis	Posted - 2005.07.09 21:02:00 - [11] MWD + web.... The tank on the claw sucks, if you hit him consistantly, he'll die.
Soros	Posted - 2005.07.09 21:11:00 - [12] Thanks for all the input, i engaged him for what seemed like ages, but was probally 25-30seconds, so I might aswell stick around and keep at it, should be fine :D -= Soros =- = Firmux Ixion =
LUKEC	Posted - 2005.07.09 21:13:00 - [13] amarr inty vs plate claw... byby amarr inty, because with beams he will either run or get close, with pulses... those are just very bad version of blasters/ACs. AC fitting req. is too low... or claw has too much pg. WTB laser with 4pg and same dmg as 200mm ac.
Naughty Boy	Posted - 2005.07.09 21:33:00 - [14] Originally by: LUKEC amarr inty vs plate claw... byby amarr inty, because with beams he will either run or get close, with pulses... those are just very bad version of blasters/ACs. AC fitting req. is too low... or claw has too much pg. WTB laser with 4pg and same dmg as 200mm ac. Armor resist could do with an overall, +20% resist against em damage is so much better than +20% resist against explosive damage. Claw is the hardest inty to track, yet the best tracking guns are doing mostly em damage... Claw pg is probably fine, as an artillery setup is power hungry. AC pg however, is really low. Sincerly Yours, The Naughty Boy.
Marskalkur	Posted - 2005.07.09 22:34:00 - [15] the powergrid requirements of small autocannons is way to low. turns the 400mm claw into an assault frig. but faster and with much lower sig radius. it's way unballanced imo.
Rexy	Posted - 2005.07.09 22:36:00 - [16] just stay outside of 8km and that claw isnt going anywhere. bit over the top to shout nerf. pretty much every ship can sacrifice it's t2 mwd for a plate. that you choose not to because you have 3 meds that's something else i guess.maybe fit a jammer instead of an mwd? can't believe how easy you people start crying for a nerf All i want for cristmas is a typhoon with launcher rof bonus :)
Grimpak	Posted - 2005.07.09 22:45:00 - [17] wait wait wait wait... ...is this DrunkenOne's jaegerbomber we're talking about? ------------------- Quote: Fragm's Oversized Ego Cannon barely scratches the forums, inflicting omgnoonecares damage
Spam Javelin	Posted - 2005.07.09 22:45:00 - [18] Edited by: Spam Javelin on 09/07/2005 22:47:16 Edited by: Spam Javelin on 09/07/2005 22:46:33 Jam the bugger with a racial!! Then nos + scramble him and peck away at his armour till the cap dies and since he got no mwd/ab he'll be suffering a slow and painful demise edit: looks like rexy beat me to it with the jammin' plan
Altai Saker	Posted - 2005.07.09 22:50:00 - [19] Originally by: Julien Derida Edited by: Julien Derida on 09/07/2005 20:04:00 Originally by: Soros Cant break its tank otherwise :( It doesn't have the cap to sustain that tank forever, so long range could be viable if you are careful. Close range is more fun though Personally I'd have a pop at it in a 400mm Taranis: 3xLight Electron IIs 1xSmall Nos 1xMWD 2xWeb 2xMAPC 1x400mm Rolled Tungsten This setup has marginally more armour than a similar Claw (enough to offset 1 armour rep cycle). It also deals significantly more damage than the Claw (around 110 DPS vs 90 DPS). ACs hit a lot further out that Electrons, so you need to ensure you close quickly. Hence the double-web. Give it a try, you should have a reasonable stab at winning. Edit: Dammit Juduzz beat me by two mins :/ Already tried that... came down to low structure on both sides if I recall...
Marskalkur	Posted - 2005.07.09 22:52:00 - [20] Originally by: Grimpak wait wait wait wait... ...is this DrunkenOne's jaegerbomber we're talking about? I think it's anyones with half a brain, best tactic is to stay away from them until the devs fix the small autocannons power req.
Julien Derida	Posted - 2005.07.10 00:10:00 - [21] Originally by: Meridius The plate claw does 120ish DPS from what i've heard Hmm, they certainly don't on my Claw. I'm using T2 150s with Spec 4 and a 3% damage implant. I'm pretty sure 120DPS is impossible on a Claw without a Gyro tbh, and you won't fit a Gyro with plate + rep. ---------------------------------------- Chief Inspector of the Style Police - FRICK
Julien Derida	Posted - 2005.07.10 00:14:00 - [22] Originally by: Altai Saker Already tried that... came down to low structure on both sides if I recall... That was before the plate changes though. I think that now plates give 50% more armour, there may be time for the extra damage of the blasters to win out. Of course, it will still be a bloody close fight. I think it all hinges on how quickly the Tara can close to 500m, and whether the Claw overuses it's rep. ---------------------------------------- Chief Inspector of the Style Police - FRICK
Yuki Li	Posted - 2005.07.10 00:52:00 - [23] rail taranis > plate claw. i've only ever used the claw on SiSi to run tests, and it -is- a mean interceptor, but it's not due a nerf. It's been left in the dark for a good while, favour being on the crow and taranis, and more recently the malediction and crusader. The plate claw rocks, but shouting nerf because someone elses ship is competent enough to give you a decent fight is pretty wrong. - Yuki Li Bitter Raven pilot. ¼_¼ [ 2004.07.31 17:31:00 ] (combat) Gallente Police Major strikes you perfectly, wrecking for 427.9 damage.
Imhotep Khem	Posted - 2005.07.10 00:57:00 - [24] Perhaps its a matter of who has the higher skills. AC been like this for a long time, and they are NOT the highest damage dealers. ____ If your not dyin' your not tryin'.
Soros	Posted - 2005.07.10 06:51:00 - [25] Originally by: Grimpak wait wait wait wait... ...is this DrunkenOne's jaegerbomber we're talking about? DrunkenOnes, maya rkells, raiths, the fidler, Vipernicus etc -= Soros =- = Firmux Ixion =
Meridius	Posted - 2005.07.10 07:03:00 - [26] Originally by: Julien Derida Hmm, they certainly don't on my Claw. I'm using T2 150s with Spec 4 and a 3% damage implant. I'm pretty sure 120DPS is impossible on a Claw without a Gyro tbh, and you won't fit a Gyro with plate + rep. It was a setup with a dmg mod + plate ________________________________________________________
Julien Derida	Posted - 2005.07.10 07:14:00 - [27] Edited by: Julien Derida on 10/07/2005 07:15:12 Originally by: Meridius Originally by: Julien Derida Hmm, they certainly don't on my Claw. I'm using T2 150s with Spec 4 and a 3% damage implant. I'm pretty sure 120DPS is impossible on a Claw without a Gyro tbh, and you won't fit a Gyro with plate + rep. It was a setup with a dmg mod + plate I doubt there's room for a MWD then, in which case we're straying into Jaegerbomber territory. And while that is a very effective setup in the right circumstances, I'm sure we can all agree that it's not really the most flexible setup for general combat. It relys on your target being somewhat willing to engage, which is unfortunately rare for me these days ---------------------------------------- Chief Inspector of the Style Police - FRICK
jebacica snova	Posted - 2005.07.10 07:55:00 - [28] iu hear that you can fit 150mms T2 and the rest including 4000mm plate. so not a crazy set up after all
dabster	Posted - 2005.07.10 08:40:00 - [29] Originally by: jebacica snova iu hear that you can fit 150mms T2 and the rest including 4000mm plate. so not a crazy set up after all Hmm I'd love to fit 6000 armor on my ac Claw ___________________________ Chicks dig Brutor's

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