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Headerman
Quovis
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.10.10 21:42:00 -
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These are my thoughts of how the upcoming super nerf will be met when the changes go live, and beyond.
Firstly, myself and many others have been training a long time to get into a super capital ship. People in one *should* know how to fly it, maximise it's strengths and hide its weaknesses through any means available (Bat phone, log off, massive fleets etc).
None of that will change. SCs are FLEET ships. The operate best when in fleets, obviously.
Quote:Supercarriers
* Drone bay can only hold fighters and fighter bombers.
* Reduce Shield, Armor and Hull hitpoints on all Supercarriers by 20%.
* Reduce drone capacity.
o Aeon, Revenant and Wyvern: 125000 (25 total Fighters + Fighter Bombers)
o Hel and Nyx: 150000 (30 total Fighters + Fighter Bombers)
* Remote ECM Burst: Does not affect ships that are immune to electronic warfare (Supercarriers, Titans, Triaged Carriers and Sieged Dreads)
My translation to this is:
- Aeon gets 20% EHP knocked off, from about 80m ot so to about 65 (or from 166m to 130m lol).
- Hel gets stomped further down to the bottom of the 'not wanted' bin, larger drone bay be damned.
- ECM bursts should work well with SCs
Quote:Fighters
* Increase signature resolution to 400
This will have serious repercussions if the enemy has stealth bombers.
Quote:Dreadnoughts
* Remove drone bay from all dreadnoughts.
* Siege Module I: Boost damage bonus from 625% to 700% to compensate for loss of drones.
* Siege Module I: Duration time reduced to 5 minutes. Fuel cost -50%.
* Moros: Remove drone bonus.
* Moros: New bonus: 5% bonus to Capital Hybrid Turret rate of fire per level.
- I have not seen a drone bay in a Dread used for much else except loading in Sentries to destroy POSs. I can't imagine drones saving a Dread from destruction, and with these changes to SCs, i can't see that trend changing
- Reduction in Siege timer will be handy
- I think the Moros will supplant the Nag as the Dread with the most DPS? I sure hope not. The Nag should be the best DPS Dread.
Quote:Titans
* Remove drone bay from all titans.
* Reduce Shield, Armor and Hull hitpoints by 20%.
* Superweapon: Cannot shoot sub-capital ships.
- No drone bay = more fleet ship emphasis, same with HP nerf. I think this is great news for titan builders, i hope we will see a reduction in cost to build one?
Quote:Logoff timer
* After a player logs out, there is a check for player aggression every 15 minutes. If you have been aggressed, the timer extends for 15 minutes; if you have not been aggressed, you disappear as before. Note: this is only for player aggression and will not change what happens when you log off during fights against NPCs.
- Blobs. Thats all i got to say.
Personally, i just want to see the Hel be given more than a 5% bonus to cap RR per level to make it more attractive to pilots.
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Djakku
Pod Liberation Authority
HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.10.10 21:42:00 -
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Nobody cares. |
Headerman
Quovis
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
176
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Posted - 2011.10.10 21:49:00 -
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Thank you for posting your care status, carebear.
And yes, i care.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
422
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Posted - 2011.10.10 21:50:00 -
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Have you considered posting this in the right thread instead?
GÇöGÇöGÇö
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
GÇö Karath Piki-á |
Avon
Versatech Co.
Raiden.
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Posted - 2011.10.10 21:51:00 -
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New and improved?
I can't begin to express how much I dislike that stupid phrase.
Either it is new or it is an improvement on an existing version; it can't be both. |
Headerman
Quovis
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
176
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Posted - 2011.10.10 21:55:00 -
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it's like a car though. You get a new M3 for example, with a new body, and it's an improvement over the outgoing version
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
422
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Posted - 2011.10.10 21:56:00 -
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Avon wrote:New and improved?
I can't begin to express how much I dislike that stupid phrase.
Either it is new or it is an improvement on an existing version; it can't be both. New [in our range of products] and improved [compared to the competitors' versions].
Or, perhaps more commonly, new [variant of what we were already selling] and improved [in some way over what we offered before].
GÇöGÇöGÇö
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
GÇö Karath Piki-á |
Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
10
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Posted - 2011.10.10 22:21:00 -
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Blaster Moros, Guristas antimatter, triple MFS: I make it over 10k DPS? |
EnderCapitalG
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
139
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Posted - 2011.10.10 22:31:00 -
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Everyone loves the Bloros, tbh |
Headerman
Quovis
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
176
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Posted - 2011.10.10 22:35:00 -
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If the Bloros does out DPS the Nag, what good is the extra training time of the Nag...
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Xercodo
Xovoni Directorate
85
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Posted - 2011.10.10 22:42:00 -
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Headerman wrote:Quote:Fighters
* Increase signature resolution to 400 This will have serious repercussions if the enemy has stealth bombers.
Resolution, not radius. SB won't be able to kill fighters any quicker cause of this change...
The Drake is a Lie |
Kengutsi Akira
27
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Posted - 2011.10.10 22:54:00 -
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Quote:Logoff timer
* After a player logs out, there is a check for player aggression every 15 minutes. If you have been aggressed, the timer extends for 15 minutes; if you have not been aggressed, you disappear as before. Note: this is only for player aggression and will not change what happens when you log off during fights against NPCs.
Should be done for all ships. |
Baraka Saibot
Wobbling Frog Inc
0
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Posted - 2011.10.10 23:10:00 -
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All the dreads get a 12% damage increase.
The Moros get's a 25% dps increase(roughly) from it's guns.
Now, it does 3882 Dps with 4 blasters with t1 antimatter, no damage mods. With a 37% increase, 5318.
Naglfar with torps and repeating artillery, 4376 now, 4901 with a 12% increase. |
Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.10 23:18:00 -
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Headerman wrote: After a player logs out, there is a check for player aggression every 15 minutes. If you have been aggressed, the timer extends for 15 minutes; if you have not been aggressed, you disappear as before.
a. DOes this mean if I log off and sit in space for 15 minutes and if at that point I don't have aggression I disappear.
(seriously doubt it)
b. log off and it checks aggression imediately.
If I have aggression wait 15 minutes and check again
If I don't have aggression normal log off. |
Gank'aho
One within we are
0
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Posted - 2011.10.10 23:30:00 -
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Russian Renter tears are the best. You guys, you'll be fine. |
Aloe Cloveris
The Greater Goon
Clockwork Pineapple
24
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Posted - 2011.10.11 00:01:00 -
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Baraka Saibot wrote:The Moros get's a 25% dps increase(roughly) from it's guns.
... until it caps out because it's now using 25% more capacitor and can't accept transfers while in siege.
So I sincerely hope this change goes hand-in-hand with a Hybrid revamp whenever this goes live.
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Headerman
Quovis
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
177
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Posted - 2011.10.11 00:06:00 -
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Gank'aho wrote:Russian Renter tears are the best. You guys, you'll be fine.
lol ur pretty dumb dood
I like it how this "tears" explains away the question of why people should put in an extra 6 months of skill training into something that is still inferior.
So would you like to spend 1 year traioning for a all@5 Moros that does the most DPS of a dread?
or spend 18 months training for a Nag that now does less damage?
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EVE Stig
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.11 00:15:00 -
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Kengutsi Akira wrote:Quote:Logoff timer
* After a player logs out, there is a check for player aggression every 15 minutes. If you have been aggressed, the timer extends for 15 minutes; if you have not been aggressed, you disappear as before. Note: this is only for player aggression and will not change what happens when you log off during fights against NPCs. Should be done for all ships.
agreed
then you can grief to your hearts' content and no logoffski
"Some say that he is actually dead, but the Grim Reaper is too afraid to tell him."
"Some say he is the 3rd member of Daft Punk and he did the vocals of "Technologic" song. All we know is,he's called EVE Stig"! |
Gank'aho
One within we are
0
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Posted - 2011.10.11 00:16:00 -
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Headerman wrote:Gank'aho wrote:Russian Renter tears are the best. You guys, you'll be fine. lol ur pretty dumb dood I like it how this "tears" explains away the question of why people should put in an extra 6 months of skill training into something that is still inferior. So would you like to spend 1 year traioning for a all@5 Moros that does the most DPS of a dread? or spend 18 months training for a Nag that now does less damage?
Depends, if im shooting at cruisers, I sure wouldn't use the dread..... |
URDEAD2ME
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
0
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Posted - 2011.10.11 00:18:00 -
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seem that the titan guns will still pawn subcaps tho so we shall see. |
SilentSkills
Estrale Frontiers
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Posted - 2011.10.11 00:20:00 -
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as silly as it may sound the drone bay removal from dreads means they will be that much susceptible to getting caught off guard by anything they can't hit as they can no longer fend it off with the sizable drone bay.
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URDEAD2ME
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
0
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Posted - 2011.10.11 00:24:00 -
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SilentSkills wrote:as silly as it may sound the drone bay removal from dreads means they will be that much susceptible to getting caught off guard by anything they can't hit as they can no longer fend it off with the sizable drone bay.
true but sub caps ment to defend them i guess is the idea. |
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CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.11 11:24:00 -
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We have already a long thread discussing CCP Tallest's newest Devblog about Capital ship balancing. Please keep the discussion there.
Additionally we have another thread in General Discussion.
Thread locked.
Please do not open more threads about this topic as this would only add additional workload to our beloved Devs collecting all the feedback and replying.
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