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Embattle
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Posted - 2005.07.11 20:08:00 -
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Can someone tell me what the various difficulty levels mean in terms of what ships you can take in and how the various levels compare with agent missions?
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Embattle
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Posted - 2005.07.12 14:11:00 -
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Any one?
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2005.07.12 17:36:00 -
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not sure if there is a direct comparison about this cos of the limits on ship size - complexes are really meant for groups i think
i reckon that 5/10s are pretty much equivalent to the bigger lvl4s, and 4/10s to lvl3 extravs
2/10 is a hard lvl2 mission i think (but u can't use a cruiser )
never done a 3/10 but i am assuming they are equivalent to easier lvl3s 
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Embattle
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Posted - 2005.07.12 18:10:00 -
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So a 5/10 would be a good one for a BS size ships then?
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Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.07.12 21:30:00 -
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Originally by: Embattle So a 5/10 would be a good one for a BS size ships then?
Most diffently.
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Urfin
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Posted - 2005.07.12 22:59:00 -
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Well I wouldn't call an angel 2/10 with 5 BS an equivalent of l2 :) And you have to do it in frigs too :) _____________________ Heatsink - Ship efficiency calculation proggie |

Maric
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Posted - 2005.07.13 05:47:00 -
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Is it possible to do any complex solo?
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Malevore Sywivin
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Posted - 2005.07.13 08:04:00 -
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Originally by: Maric Is it possible to do any complex solo?
I'd like to know that too... --- www.torn.dk - prog rock |

capt
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Posted - 2005.07.13 08:41:00 -
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Yes you can do a lot of them solo.
Difficulty ranges from 1/10 to 10/10.
And I don't have any problems whatsoever doing the 1/10-4/10s solo. I haven't tried any complex above 4/10 so I can't really comment on them; but I suspect you can solo 5/10-6/10 with a BS. Any higher than 6/10 would require backup.
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Edison Frisk
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Posted - 2005.07.13 08:46:00 -
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Originally by: Urfin Well I wouldn't call an angel 2/10 with 5 BS an equivalent of l2 :) And you have to do it in frigs too :)
you see 5 BS in a level 2???
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thebold
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Posted - 2005.07.13 10:42:00 -
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4/10 complexs can be done in a solo taranis, 5/10's in HAC's
Pre Patch the 7/10 Angels plex used to be done nearly solo to the last level.
This issue is not the difficulty of killing the ships inside meerly the boss's CCP put in the plex's to force people to go in teams to kill the boss's instead the NPC's on each level..
Also i have heard the last level of the 8/10 Doom Torps damage has been drasticly reduced from 1800 to 800.
1/10 now drop Faction Frig BPC's, 5/10's Cruiser 7+/10's BS > CR > Loot named to factions and Better overseers...
But people don't do plex's for the bounties these days...
and empire plex's are far to overcrowded even though you could do a 1/10 in a ibis of doom. ==============================================
We do the Blowing up thingy |

elFarto
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Posted - 2005.07.13 12:37:00 -
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I assume I can't do a lvl3 in a battlecruiser?
Regards elFarto
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thebold
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Posted - 2005.07.13 14:06:00 -
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Originally by: elFarto I assume I can't do a lvl3 in a battlecruiser?
Regards elFarto
i can solo a 4/10 in a taranis.
lvl 3 will be a walk in the park just use light missles... ==============================================
We do the Blowing up thingy |

DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.07.13 14:20:00 -
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Originally by: thebold 1/10 now drop Faction Frig BPC's, 5/10's Cruiser 7+/10's BS > CR > Loot named to factions and Better overseers.
do only 1, 5s, and 7->10s drop BPCs? What about 4/10s?
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2005.07.13 15:03:00 -
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Originally by: Urfin Well I wouldn't call an angel 2/10 with 5 BS an equivalent of l2 :) And you have to do it in frigs too :)
erm - where did u see that? i soloed the 2/10 angel one (angel creo corp) just after DT one day in a destroyer - was real easy - no BSs at all - and the overseer structure was there with the key to next lvl - so i doubt some1 had dashed in an uberfrig and killed 5BSs b4 i got there
Originally by: DrunkenOne do only 1, 5s, and 7->10s drop BPCs? What about 4/10s
i have got alot of faction frigs from the guristas 2/10, and i know people hu have got gila (guristas cruiser) BPCs from 4/10s.
never received a BPC from a non-guristas complex tho 
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2005.07.13 17:02:00 -
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Edited by: Nyphur on 13/07/2005 17:03:15
Originally by: Embattle So a 5/10 would be a good one for a BS size ships then?
It depends. Some 4/10s can not be solo'd in battleships. My deimos outtanks a battleship hands down and it had trouble with a 4/10 Monestary. Msotly that it couldn't kill things quickly enough, to be honest. The tank was solid for the most part. i think this thing is rated too low, to be honest. 5/10 seem to require more than one ship, simple as that. I know some secret 5/10s and I can't solo them in my Deimos, I have to have my two buddies in battleships for backup. You see, to tank the damage I need to, I need to have a large remote armour repairer on a friend on standby in case things heat up and I can't deal the damage required to take down the enemies on my own, either. Given that I can tank better than an Apoc, I don't think a BS could solo a 5/10.
Get a few BS and it'll be a breeze.
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.07.13 17:06:00 -
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Originally by: Nyphur My deimos outtanks a battleship hands down and it had trouble with a 4/10 Monestary. Msotly that it couldn't kill things quickly enough, to be honest. The tank was solid for the most part. i think this thing is rated too low, to be honest.
Yeah, those are insane, they have like 4 tach batterys in the 2nd state which isntantly snipe you when you get in, its nuts trying to tank those.
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Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.07.13 17:09:00 -
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Originally by: thebold
i can solo a 4/10 in a taranis.
lvl 3 will be a walk in the park just use light missles...
I seriously doubt you can do a monostary one.
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Vigilant
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Posted - 2005.07.13 18:33:00 -
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Too bad 4/10's don't allow BattleShips in them  Battle Cruisers and below for every 4/10 I have ever checked....
5/10 BS and UP  3/10 Cruiser and Below 2/10 Destroyer and below 1/10 Frig Only (unless you count shuttle)
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elFarto
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Posted - 2005.07.13 18:37:00 -
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Originally by: Vigilant Too bad 4/10's don't allow BattleShips in them  Battle Cruisers and below for every 4/10 I have ever checked....
5/10 BS and UP  3/10 Cruiser and Below 2/10 Destroyer and below 1/10 Frig Only (unless you count shuttle)
Bah, thats a bugger. I tried doing a 4/10 monestary one. I could do the first bit ok, tho the gatekeeper was a bit difficult. The sound area was a no-go. 20+ cruisers all shooting at me.
Also did the same complex with a few friends, didn't get any worth while loot, altho that was a while ago.
Regards elFarto
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Kel Gunrunner
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Posted - 2005.07.26 10:17:00 -
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Iv done a few 6/10 complexes, u need a few bs for those around 5 guys. u fit 1 with lots of hardeners etc and then evryone else fits remote repairs, then u let the tank agro the spawns. sounds easy but when the spawns decide to target other people it can get ugly. the loot is ok, average of 20 mil each if 5 guys do it. and the guy who says he does 4/10s in a tiranis is full of it :)although those can be solo'd in a battle cruiser if u fit a big tank. 5/10's can be done with 2 bs if you both fit a remote rep. hope that helps.
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2005.07.26 11:19:00 -
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Originally by: Kel Gunrunner Iv done a few 6/10 complexes, u need a few bs for those around 5 guys. u fit 1 with lots of hardeners etc and then evryone else fits remote repairs, then u let the tank agro the spawns. sounds easy but when the spawns decide to target other people it can get ugly. the loot is ok, average of 20 mil each if 5 guys do it. and the guy who says he does 4/10s in a tiranis is full of it :)although those can be solo'd in a battle cruiser if u fit a big tank. 5/10's can be done with 2 bs if you both fit a remote rep. hope that helps.
Actually, the guy who said he can solo it in a taranis is telling the truth.
A guristas one would be easy.
I've solo'd 5/10 plexes before.
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franny
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Posted - 2005.07.28 04:57:00 -
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i've solo'd a 4/10 guristas in a vexor so a taranis should be more than capable of solo'ing a 4/10 |

Kerby Lane
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Posted - 2005.07.28 08:32:00 -
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By the way how is the loot in 4/10 monestary ? Just wondering..
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Henka
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Posted - 2005.07.28 11:29:00 -
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I have tried finnish a 5/10 drone one, but i kept loosing to (mega). So i got a domi and, well that one was better suited but i lost it in the last stage.
Drone commander did 300-400 damage, more then i could tank (having 70% on ther kinm and 55 or so on exp and 60 em).. He did 650 a pop on my struct :(
they are hard, I had M pulses and L D250 but as soon as the drones got close they where impossible to hit..
The last stage was impossible, when all attacked i lost my 7k armor in 10 sec blank, that was INSANE!
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Randuin MaraL
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Posted - 2005.07.28 12:29:00 -
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Originally by: elFarto I assume I can't do a lvl3 in a battlecruiser?
Seems a battlecruiser is too big for that gate into 3/10 complex. Quite annoying that there is no list ... ____________________________________________________
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Dominik
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Posted - 2005.07.28 14:50:00 -
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Originally by: DrunkenOne
Originally by: thebold 1/10 now drop Faction Frig BPC's, 5/10's Cruiser 7+/10's BS > CR > Loot named to factions and Better overseers.
do only 1, 5s, and 7->10s drop BPCs? What about 4/10s?
lvl 3s also drop cruiser bpcs, I know for a fact as I got 2 vigilant bpcs out of 3's within 6 hours of eachother.
Easily solo'd in a jag without even paying attention to what I was doing. I'd move up to 4s but I hear they have a strange lack of bpcs.
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Dominik
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Posted - 2005.07.28 14:53:00 -
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Originally by: Henka I have tried finnish a 5/10 drone one, but i kept loosing to (mega). So i got a domi and, well that one was better suited but i lost it in the last stage.
Drone commander did 300-400 damage, more then i could tank (having 70% on ther kinm and 55 or so on exp and 60 em).. He did 650 a pop on my struct :(
they are hard, I had M pulses and L D250 but as soon as the drones got close they where impossible to hit..
The last stage was impossible, when all attacked i lost my 7k armor in 10 sec blank, that was INSANE!
I refuse to do drone complexes. Too much of a pita. Drones seem to have a MUCH higher dps than supposedly equivalent-level ships.
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Sinas
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Posted - 2005.07.28 17:21:00 -
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Is a 4/10 serp complex doable in a harpy? The 3/10's are boring ><
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franny
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Posted - 2005.07.29 08:24:00 -
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the only issue I would see(besides serp 4/10s being possibly bugged with no loot) is breaking the mega's tank duo'd all but the mega with enyo + vexor(me), just couldn't break it's tank(so close too, it was in hull when we ran out of AM), but that was pre Cold War patch and a lot less SP |
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