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terzho
StarFleet Enterprises Red Alliance
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Posted - 2013.02.02 07:28:00 -
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Ildryn wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Ildryn wrote:Because a power bloc can't run a bot in high sec. Just because an alt does not say the name of the corp/alliance their main character is in does not mean they are not botting. I kinda expected someone from goons/pl to point fingers at highsec. Goons exploiting a huge flaw in FW and PL having members exploit/cheat. Of course none of these players were banned. The Monkeysphere North Eastern Swat [NESW] from 2010.02.22 18:39 to 2011.10.10 21:10. The Illuminati. [OSHIT] from 2008.03.05 13:21 to 2010.02.22 18:39. See i can point fingers too :) Do you have any shred of evidence whatsoever for your claims? Because the only thing I claimed was that 80% of botters were in HS and, according to CCP, that's exactly the case. For some reason, facts seem to make you angry. By the way, even if we accept that most botters were members of nullsec alliances (a claim you have provided precisely zero basis for), in what way would that imply that activity is in any way related to the alliances that they are members of? What claims were those? The one about The Monkeysphere or the one where i said goons exploited a flaw in fw? Or could you possibly be referring to where i claimed someone in null sec can run a bot in high sec? Those are facts.
Confirming we're all a bunch of RMTing Botters.
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Crazey Monkey
Hades Effect
11
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Posted - 2013.02.02 07:45:00 -
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I believe that 80% of bottlers are in HS, spending 5 minutes bumping in an ice belt will show you that.
I too however seen bottlers in all areas of null sec. I don't think any power bloc is innocent in this case.
All RMT claims is just speculation though and really silly to cry about. |
Kalle Demos
Ironic Corp Name
154
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Posted - 2013.02.02 09:01:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Brooks Puuntai wrote:Falin Whalen wrote:Brooks Puuntai wrote:I still find it abit comical that Goons have turned into what they use to despise. Goons trying to fulfill Molle's goal. If you believe that we want a blue donut 0.0, you'll believe I can sell you a Titan through a reliable third party. I believe you know The Mittani. Low jumps, only used to crush one small alliance trying to get a start in null. Sorry no Leviathans tho, DBRB took ours out for a spin Saturday, and well... Whether you wanted it or not isn't relevant, you still have created what BoB seeked to achieve. You even took their old pets. No, HBC did. And look what happened. We reset TEST :v:
Reset being code for "Until we get attacked by another entity, we will stay neutral with HBC but under no circumstances will there be any sov warfare, if at any point we get any aggression from enemies we will NAP HBC, while making dumb articles convincing sheep of how our decision was the ONLY way"
If only Mao Mittani told you guys to shoot yourselves in the foot (in game) |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting Home Front Coalition
316
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Posted - 2013.02.02 09:33:00 -
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Kalle Demos wrote:http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/VeriteChina/Cinfluence.png
Notice no more pets ;)
Gz China on achieving something 3 coalitions have failed to on TQ
Meh. Looks boring. |
RubyPorto
Sniggwaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
2566
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Posted - 2013.02.02 09:34:00 -
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Ildryn wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Ildryn wrote:Because a power bloc can't run a bot in high sec. Just because an alt does not say the name of the corp/alliance their main character is in does not mean they are not botting. I kinda expected someone from goons/pl to point fingers at highsec. Goons exploiting a huge flaw in FW and PL having members exploit/cheat. Of course none of these players were banned. The Monkeysphere North Eastern Swat [NESW] from 2010.02.22 18:39 to 2011.10.10 21:10. The Illuminati. [OSHIT] from 2008.03.05 13:21 to 2010.02.22 18:39. See i can point fingers too :) Do you have any shred of evidence whatsoever for your claims? Because the only thing I claimed was that 80% of botters were in HS and, according to CCP, that's exactly the case. For some reason, facts seem to make you angry. By the way, even if we accept that most botters were members of nullsec alliances (a claim you have provided precisely zero basis for), in what way would that imply that activity is in any way related to the alliances that they are members of? What claims were those? The one about The Monkeysphere or the one where i said goons exploited a flaw in fw? Or could you possibly be referring to where i claimed someone in null sec can run a bot in high sec? Those are facts.
Just as it's a fact that it is possible that Invisible Pigs are Flying through the air, dropping incorporeal candycorn from their asses on our heads.
Or are you saying that you weren't using the common rhetorical device of "Isn't it possible that x" when X is something you want the reader to believe but you have no evidence for whatsoever, so you say "isn't it possible" to weasel out of being called on your bull. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Xinivrae
305
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Posted - 2013.02.02 10:39:00 -
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Kalle Demos wrote:Reset being code for "Until we get attacked by another entity, we will stay neutral with HBC but under no circumstances will there be any sov warfare, if at any point we get any aggression from enemies we will NAP HBC, while making dumb articles convincing sheep of how our decision was the ONLY way"
If only Mao Mittani told you guys to shoot yourselves in the foot (in game)
That's a whole lot of thinly veiled aggression there. I will never understand how crazy people get over video games. Chill out and enjoy yourself. |
RubyPorto
Sniggwaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
2566
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Posted - 2013.02.02 10:44:00 -
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Kalle Demos wrote:Reset being code for "Until we get attacked by another entity, we will stay neutral with HBC but under no circumstances will there be any sov warfare, if at any point we get any aggression from enemies we will NAP HBC, while making dumb articles convincing sheep of how our decision was the ONLY way"
If only Mao Mittani told you guys to shoot yourselves in the foot (in game)
If you don't like what they're doing with the space that they own, take it from them. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Kalle Demos
Ironic Corp Name
154
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Posted - 2013.02.02 10:55:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Kalle Demos wrote:Reset being code for "Until we get attacked by another entity, we will stay neutral with HBC but under no circumstances will there be any sov warfare, if at any point we get any aggression from enemies we will NAP HBC, while making dumb articles convincing sheep of how our decision was the ONLY way"
If only Mao Mittani told you guys to shoot yourselves in the foot (in game) If you don't like what they're doing with the space that they own, take it from them.
Lets see, dedicate an enormous amount of time and effort trying to take land from losers in an internet spaceship game that holds zero value in real life OR while waiting for my sub to end correct all the puppets from said loser coalition
Also you forget that I actually WANT CFC to achieve their end game of directly / indirectly (NIPs) ruling all of 0.0 |
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
941
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Posted - 2013.02.02 11:10:00 -
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That graph is completely inadequate to make any judgements. It doesn't categorize bots: Market, Spam, Mission or Miner bot. There are definitely more spam bots in The Forge since Jita is located in that region. Neither does it give us the sample size of the expunged bots, nor is it an accurate measure of where the bots are in the game, only the bots that were targeted. Given CCP's chumminess with some alliances over others, it's basically a graph of what they wanted you to see.
While annoying, spam bots are not a detriment to the game in the way that the other 3 types are. We want breast augmentations and sluttier clothing in the NeX! |
Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
269
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Posted - 2013.02.02 15:20:00 -
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"Now you just can't come in here with your facts and figures, from reliable sources and totaly disprove my long held and deeply entrenched feelings on a subject. "
That right there is the Backfire effect, in full effect. You've got to remember that these are just simple miners. These are people of the land. The common clay of New Eden. You know... morons. |
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3356
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Posted - 2013.02.02 19:20:00 -
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Mr Kidd wrote:That graph is completely inadequate to make any judgements. It doesn't categorize bots: Market, Spam, Mission or Miner bot. There are definitely more spam bots in The Forge since Jita is located in that region. Neither does it give us the sample size of the expunged bots, nor is it an accurate measure of where the bots are in the game, only the bots that were targeted. Given CCP's chumminess with some alliances over others, it's basically a graph of what they wanted you to see. While annoying, spam bots are not a detriment to the game in the way that the other 3 types are. My my, so actually CCP is the puppetmaster here. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
RubyPorto
Sniggwaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
2566
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Posted - 2013.02.02 20:53:00 -
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Mr Kidd wrote:That graph is completely inadequate to make any judgements. It doesn't categorize bots: Market, Spam, Mission or Miner bot. There are definitely more spam bots in The Forge since Jita is located in that region. Neither does it give us the sample size of the expunged bots, nor is it an accurate measure of where the bots are in the game, only the bots that were targeted. Given CCP's chumminess with some alliances over others, it's basically a graph of what they wanted you to see. While annoying, spam bots are not a detriment to the game in the way that the other 3 types are.
So, you got any evidence that CCP turns a blind eye to botting by anyone? Let alone preferentially to botting by any certain group?
Gotta love the tinfoil brigade. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Air The Unthinkables
2804
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Posted - 2013.02.02 21:06:00 -
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i wonder what goes on their minds, like at fanfest does mittani slip a USB stick full of virtual technetium into Soundwave's palm as they share a silent nod of acknowledgement? |
RubyPorto
Sniggwaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
2566
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Posted - 2013.02.02 21:17:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:i wonder what goes on their minds, like at fanfest does mittani slip a USB stick full of virtual technetium into Soundwave's palm as they share a silent nod of acknowledgement?
FYP*
*Audio potentially NSFW. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Robert Warner
Nex Angelus. Unclaimed.
60
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Posted - 2013.02.02 21:35:00 -
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It would look like a smurf. |
Corey Fumimasa
The Advent of Faith
78
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Posted - 2013.02.02 23:05:00 -
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Proletariat Tingtango wrote:Rengerel en Distel wrote:Proletariat Tingtango wrote:nobody wants TQ to be more like Serenity. It's just interesting to look at how the game developed in China instead of the west. Unsurprisingly its a sea of blues, botters, and RMTers at the top. so not much different is what you're saying? (sorry, you just kinda tossed up a softball there) I knew well before I hit the post button, it's all good. re: botters and bans: Our finances are public, and GSF/CFC, and even TEST does auditing to show players where isk is coming from, and where it's going. AS FAR AS I KNOW we don't budget for RMTing. Goons are really a beacon of morality in a fake world of social darwinism. Are the audits done by the same guys who put this together? http://i.imgur.com/Sjl7a.png
This is a youtube playlist going over my first 30 ship losses. Video sucks but the audio came out well.There are some good lessons, and if you know the game there's some funny stories. |
Ildryn
The Inf1dels
91
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Posted - 2013.02.02 23:35:00 -
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Falin Whalen wrote:"Now you just can't come in here with your facts and figures, from reliable sources and totaly disprove my long held and deeply entrenched feelings on a subject. " That right there is the Backfire effect, in full effect.
Damned facts....wish i knew where to find some...
Anela Cistine wrote:
Anela Cistine GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
Exactly. The rules are designed to minimize internal drama. If a goon quietly reports another goon, no one will ever know or care. Usually when a goon gets banned for botting we all point and laugh and call the guy an idiot.
What we don't want is witch hunts, goon on goon trolling, and drama queens going around threatening to get people banned, or bragging about getting people banned. That creates hard feelings and tears apart alliance cohesion. So reporting falls under the "no goonfucking" rules, so that when people do it they will do it quietly. No drama.
http://evenews24.com/2011/08/31/serious-business-goonswarm-federation-pilot-kicked-for-rmting-his-titan-to-pandemic-legion/
Mittani: he sold a titan to our enemies and so i booted him Mittani: i donGÇÖt care about him rmting, iGÇÖm not ccpGÇÖs cop, the issue is that he sold it to our foes
Your move Ruby. |
RubyPorto
Sniggwaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
2566
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Posted - 2013.02.03 00:20:00 -
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Ildryn wrote:Damned facts....wish i knew where to find some... Anela Cistine wrote:
Anela Cistine GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
Exactly. The rules are designed to minimize internal drama. If a goon quietly reports another goon, no one will ever know or care. Usually when a goon gets banned for botting we all point and laugh and call the guy an idiot.
What we don't want is witch hunts, goon on goon trolling, and drama queens going around threatening to get people banned, or bragging about getting people banned. That creates hard feelings and tears apart alliance cohesion. So reporting falls under the "no goonfucking" rules, so that when people do it they will do it quietly. No drama.
http://evenews24.com/2011/08/31/serious-business-goonswarm-federation-pilot-kicked-for-rmting-his-titan-to-pandemic-legion/Mittani: he sold a titan to our enemies and so i booted him Mittani: i donGÇÖt care about him rmting, iGÇÖm not ccpGÇÖs cop, the issue is that he sold it to our foes Your move Ruby.
Just like I don't care if my friends smoke pot*. Not caring to report someone is not anything like the same thing as supporting it or being involved in it.
Basically, you're implying that I'm a drug dealer on the basis of evidence that I don't care to report my friends for smoking pot.
*Illegal in my jurisdiction.
Also, your evidence does nothing to support either your initial nor your secondary claims, which, if we strip out the weasely bull were:
1. Goons are more likely to RMT than members of other demographic groups, 2. A significant portion of HS botters are Goons, and 3. CCP turns a blind eye towards bad behavior by goons.
In fact, your evidence directly contradicts your third claim. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
1702
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Posted - 2013.02.03 00:29:00 -
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I think 3. CCP turns a blind eye towards bad behavior by goons.
used to be the case. Now however I think CCP has matured and realised that while goons and the like do make interesting news occasionally, the majority of their money is coming from more casual players in Hi-sec. So they are changing their focus to them and to the people who make other sites or do things in the game that allow others to have a better experience.
So the age of The Goons getting away with it is over, money won that fight. Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread
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Ildryn
The Inf1dels
91
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Posted - 2013.02.03 00:41:00 -
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1. How many goons were banned during the rmt purge? How many goon pets were banned?
Legit question. Pretty blunt....no implied claims. Proof the goons have engaged in RMT along with PL. http://evenews24.com/2011/08/31/serious-business-goonswarm-federation-pilot-kicked-for-rmting-his-titan-to-pandemic-legion/
Mittani: he sold a titan to our enemies and so i booted him Mittani: i donGÇÖt care about him rmting, iGÇÖm not ccpGÇÖs cop, the issue is that he sold it to our foes
2. Saying a power bloc can use bots in high sec. RMT accounts are not limited to main characters in alliances. After that i mentioned how PL had a cheater/exploiter in their alliance and Goons exploited the FW system.
3. Curious as to where CCP turns a blind eye. Me thinking they should be perma banned for exploiting something is just emergent game play in others eyes. They exploited a flaw in the game that made them billions of isk and fuckered the economy. Hell they posted about it. While it was an exploit it was not a bannable exploit. I think it should have been. But that is my two cents.
RMT is bad mmmkay. Now if you will respond to what i actually said instead of hyping what i said then i am sure you will see that i am correct.
ex-+ploit (ksploit, k-sploit)
1. To employ to the greatest possible advantage: exploit one's talents. 2. To make use of selfishly or unethically: 3. To advertise; promote.
I of course am referring to number 2 and possibly 1.
Are you on the defensive because you know it's true....or are you daft enough to believe that i am full of ****?
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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Air The Unthinkables
2804
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Posted - 2013.02.03 00:45:00 -
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Ildryn wrote:
1. How many goons were banned during the rmt purge? How many goon pets were banned?
Legit question. Pretty blunt....no implied claims.
CCP doesn't discuss bans for any reason, let alone bans by alliance. So your case against goons is predicated on RubyPorto providing information CCP Sreegs doesn't disclose to anyone. "If you can't tell me how many, my inferences and accusations based on EN24 articles will have to be accepted as fact" |
Ildryn
The Inf1dels
91
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Posted - 2013.02.03 00:52:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:Ildryn wrote:
1. How many goons were banned during the rmt purge? How many goon pets were banned?
Legit question. Pretty blunt....no implied claims.
CCP doesn't discuss bans for any reason, let alone bans by alliance. So your case against goons is predicated on RubyPorto providing information CCP Sreegs doesn't disclose to anyone. "If you can't tell me how many, my inferences and accusations based on EN24 articles will have to be accepted as fact"
My question was not directed at Ruby. He is the one that took up the crusade. The question was a bit rhetorical as i am well aware CCP does not discuss bans.
The thing is. They might not know exactly how many. But they know there were quite a few.
And because no one can say exactly how many the question becomes baseless? I don't think so. There were many people banned. And Goonswarm had their fair share banned. And so did their pets. (just to clarify for you. Pets does not equal CCP)
In the end the correct answer is "More than we want to admit. So we will fight any claims because no one else knows for sure."
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RubyPorto
Sniggwaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
2566
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Posted - 2013.02.03 01:14:00 -
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Ildryn wrote:Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:Ildryn wrote:
1. How many goons were banned during the rmt purge? How many goon pets were banned?
Legit question. Pretty blunt....no implied claims.
CCP doesn't discuss bans for any reason, let alone bans by alliance. So your case against goons is predicated on RubyPorto providing information CCP Sreegs doesn't disclose to anyone. "If you can't tell me how many, my inferences and accusations based on EN24 articles will have to be accepted as fact" My question was not directed at Ruby. He is the one that took up the crusade. The question was a bit rhetorical as i am well aware CCP does not discuss bans.
So, you're now saying that it wasn't a legitimate question and that it did make implied claims. Or are you unaware of the meaning of a rhetorical question? This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Ildryn
The Inf1dels
91
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Posted - 2013.02.03 01:30:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Ildryn wrote:Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:Ildryn wrote:
1. How many goons were banned during the rmt purge? How many goon pets were banned?
Legit question. Pretty blunt....no implied claims.
CCP doesn't discuss bans for any reason, let alone bans by alliance. So your case against goons is predicated on RubyPorto providing information CCP Sreegs doesn't disclose to anyone. "If you can't tell me how many, my inferences and accusations based on EN24 articles will have to be accepted as fact" My question was not directed at Ruby. He is the one that took up the crusade. The question was a bit rhetorical as i am well aware CCP does not discuss bans. So, you're now saying that it wasn't a legitimate question and that it did make implied claims. Or are you unaware of the meaning of a rhetorical question?
It was legitimate in its intent.
Proletariat Tingtango wrote:nobody wants TQ to be more like Serenity. It's just interesting to look at how the game developed in China instead of the west. Unsurprisingly its a sea of blues, botters, and RMTers at the top.
It was intended to shut up the Goon *****. Which it did.
Though i never thought someone from your alliance would respond. I mean. Your alliance had known cheaters/exploiters using a program to kill people. And your alliance mates did some RMT to buy some space pixels. But hey....It probably wasn't you. Hell you may not even know what i am talking about. So do some research and ask around. If you hear two different stories from your own alliance mates. Then maybe....just maybe all this arguing earned you some enlightenment. |
RubyPorto
Sniggwaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
2566
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Posted - 2013.02.03 01:32:00 -
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Ildryn wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Ildryn wrote:Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:Ildryn wrote:
1. How many goons were banned during the rmt purge? How many goon pets were banned?
Legit question. Pretty blunt....no implied claims.
CCP doesn't discuss bans for any reason, let alone bans by alliance. So your case against goons is predicated on RubyPorto providing information CCP Sreegs doesn't disclose to anyone. "If you can't tell me how many, my inferences and accusations based on EN24 articles will have to be accepted as fact" My question was not directed at Ruby. He is the one that took up the crusade. The question was a bit rhetorical as i am well aware CCP does not discuss bans. So, you're now saying that it wasn't a legitimate question and that it did make implied claims. Or are you unaware of the meaning of a rhetorical question? It was legitimate in its intent..
So, you're now outright crowing that you lied just there when you claimed that it was a "legit question" with "no implied claims."
You don't get to run off throwing out more claims as so much chaff until we've settled the first one. Standard rule of argumentation. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Ildryn
The Inf1dels
91
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Posted - 2013.02.03 02:08:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:
So, you're now outright crowing that you lied just there when you claimed that it was a "legit question" with "no implied claims."
You don't get to run off throwing out more claims as so much chaff until we've settled the first one. Standard rule of argumentation.
You can talk me and what i brought up in circles until you're dizzy. Are we really going to argue over what someone may have implied. I surely didn't imply anything to you. I asked a Goon member a legitimate rhetorical question to imply they have no room to talk about botting/RMT. I was not claiming they had no right to talk. It was implied and not a claim of wrong doing. I don't need to claim because they, you, and not enough of everyone else know this. Your crusade is to make me look bad. Congrats if you did. I have never botted or been a party to any botting. I have never known anyone in this game to cheat in any way in any corp/alliance i have been in. I have reported a few scammers for spamming local. I have reported a few i thought may be bots using the in game report function.
Now you on the other hand. Really need to look inward. You know should know your alliance was involved in RMT. As well as the alliance you are crusading for. You should know that some of your current members used a program to bypass local. If you do you are still in public denial. Which is expected. No one wants to admit the gory little details. Which you haven't done and likely won't. That does not stop any of it from being true.
I am just pointing it out yet again for the general public. Because i am of the opinion they should read it again and again.
There you go.
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Bane Necran
Appono Astos
1589
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Posted - 2013.02.03 02:15:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Why cant TQ be more like Serenity thread number# whothef***caresanywaysaboutthechineseservergiveitupandgooutsideandgetatanandoralifeandleavethechinesetodowhattheydobest.
Unsuccessful At Everything post doing this exact same joke #134653146312576452747245
"The nice thing about quotes is that they give us a nodding acquaintance with the originator which is often socially impressive." ~Kenneth Williams |
RubyPorto
Sniggwaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
2566
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Posted - 2013.02.03 02:17:00 -
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Ildryn wrote: I asked a Goon member a legitimate rhetorical question to imply they have no room to talk about botting/RMT.
I see, you don't know what a rhetorical question is. You also don't seem to understand the concept of "poisoning the well" or why it's not done.
By the way, bringing up years old exploits is kind of silly. It's like claiming that ex-BoB can't talk about anything because of T20. Also, given that anyone caught using exploits gets banned, I'm not sure where you're getting "current" members. And, of course, if you have evidence of RMT activity at an alliance level (or any level, really), why haven't you sent it to CCP? This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Ildryn
The Inf1dels
91
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Posted - 2013.02.03 03:39:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Ildryn wrote: I asked a Goon member a legitimate rhetorical question to imply they have no room to talk about botting/RMT.
I see, you don't know what a rhetorical question is. You also don't seem to understand the concept of "poisoning the well" or why it's not done. By the way, bringing up years old exploits is kind of silly. It's like claiming that ex-BoB can't talk about anything because of T20. Also, given that anyone caught using exploits gets banned, I'm not sure where you're getting "current" members. And, of course, if you have evidence of RMT activity at an alliance level (or any level, really), why haven't you sent it to CCP?
I didn't want the Goon to answer. I implied from the question that Goons have no right to talk about RMT.
A rhetorical question is a figure of speech in the form of a question that is asked in order to make a point and without the expectation of a reply.
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Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
839
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Posted - 2013.02.03 03:50:00 -
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ITT: Conspiracy theories.
Why does The Mittani need to RMT isk when he is just going to build up TheMittani.Com, sell it and then double retire? "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |
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