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Njaava
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.02.03 06:34:00 -
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I do a lot of exploring in high sec, and when I run into wormholes, which is a lot, I sometimes grab a ship and look for ladar sites. Just for something relatively safe and cheap to risk in w-space.
Lately I've been wondering if it might not be more fun to hunt people that were doing the same thing as me. What ship would be best for this? I want something as cheap as possible, but still effective to get me in and out. Maybe a stealthy torp boat?
Thanks in advance. |
Dato Koppla
Rage of Inferno
Malefic Motives
120
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Posted - 2013.02.03 07:10:00 -
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If you want to go as cheap as possible you'd go for a frig, since from what I understand you're looking to hunt Ventures and other possible targets such as anom runners. A frig is capable of killing a Venture gas mining easily but catching them is the hard part, unless you wait you'll have to scan the site/him down which will cause any half decent Venture pilot to POS up. Taking on anoms runners is easier since you don't have to scan and they tend to be slower, but then sleepers pose a threat and they tend to have large tanks forcing you to fly something big.
Another option is a Stealth Bomber, it's nice because you get the element of surprise and can wait for someone then spring the trap, however you need a well placed bomb to get a Venture and as said above, you'll needto be in the site before them and wait, you can also do similar things to anom runners, waiting for them to come back in a salvage ship then pwning them.
Basically lots of options, you need to specify what else youre looking for.
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Therran Promitz
Project Cerberus
Caldari State Capturing
53
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Posted - 2013.02.03 07:48:00 -
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How does one actually do WH PvP? Do you come in with a exploration ship before hand, or carry a probe launcher on the ship you fight with? |
Jack Miton
Aperture Harmonics
K162
1357
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Posted - 2013.02.03 09:48:00 -
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cloaky proteus.
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Orlacc
198
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Posted - 2013.02.03 18:53:00 -
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Therran Promitz wrote:How does one actually do WH PvP? Do you come in with a exploration ship before hand, or carry a probe launcher on the ship you fight with?
Unless you live there, NEVER go into a WH without a probe launcher. |
Jack Miton
Aperture Harmonics
K162
1358
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Posted - 2013.02.03 20:15:00 -
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Orlacc wrote:Therran Promitz wrote:How does one actually do WH PvP? Do you come in with a exploration ship before hand, or carry a probe launcher on the ship you fight with? Unless you live there, NEVER go into a WH without a probe launcher.
worst advice ever... |
Njaava
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.02.03 20:30:00 -
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Thanks for the replies, everyone.
I didn't realize how vague my question was until I read your replies.
So, I basically want to hunt down people that fly alone into w-space to run professional sites or that sort of thing. I would feel too nervous to go without a probe launcher, and it's seems like a cloak would be needed as well. And I want to stay cheap (a proteus is too much for me). Does such a ship and set-up exist?
Thanks again. |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
1903
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Posted - 2013.02.03 22:54:00 -
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Ventures, the most common ladar site ships, can be extremely difficult to catch and kill solo if they are not afk. They warp out nearly instantly and have natural warp core stabs. I wouldn't personally fit a faction scram on a bomber, and force recons and T3s (the other covops-cloakable combat ships) have a targeting delay after decloaking.
Fitting probe launcher is a non-issue on the above ships, it doesn't even have to be online until you need it.
-á- All I really wanted was to build a castle among the stars - |
Complex Potential
Blackstar Privateer Consortium
Enigma Project
197
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Posted - 2013.02.03 22:58:00 -
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How about something like the arazu or rapier? |
Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings
Situation: Normal
1109
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Posted - 2013.02.04 01:31:00 -
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I'd say the best overal cheap WH solo hunter is a stealth bomber. You will be limited in what targets you can engage. But it can be the most lucrative. Last salvager I bagged dropped about 120mil and took 2 volleys.
The next best for solo work is a croaky proteus. But this isn't without it's drawbacks. Due to range you pretty much commit to the fight. And if you lose you are losing a shiny ship and SP. |
Fireflyb1
Walden 2.0
24
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Posted - 2013.02.04 01:53:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:Orlacc wrote:Therran Promitz wrote:How does one actually do WH PvP? Do you come in with a exploration ship before hand, or carry a probe launcher on the ship you fight with? Unless you live there, NEVER go into a WH without a probe launcher. worst advice ever...
"Your advice is bad... but I won't provide reasoning or explanation."
YOU SIR ARE ELITE |
Dibblerette
The Phantom Regiment
THE ROYAL NAVY
133
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Posted - 2013.02.04 02:12:00 -
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As someone mentioned, a stealth bomber is your best bet. I would suggest either the Manticore, for it's superior CPU and 4 midslots (using sensor damps and a long point can render SOME targets helpless, do your research), or either the Purifier or Hound for the lowslots, allowing more torp DPS. Sleepers deal, and thus ratters tank, omni-damage, so it's not like hunting in 0.0 where the region dictates your bomber.
I'm no expert, but I would think your best bet is to scan down the sites when there's no activity, bookmark them, and then wait. Most experienced WH'ers will be spooked by foreign probes on scan, although you might be able to snag a mining alt in a belt or something with less trouble. |
Therran Promitz
Project Cerberus
Caldari State Capturing
53
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Posted - 2013.02.04 06:29:00 -
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Fireflyb1 wrote:Jack Miton wrote:Orlacc wrote:Therran Promitz wrote:How does one actually do WH PvP? Do you come in with a exploration ship before hand, or carry a probe launcher on the ship you fight with? Unless you live there, NEVER go into a WH without a probe launcher. worst advice ever... "Your advice is bad... but I won't provide reasoning or explanation." YOU SIR ARE ELITE
Yeah, pretty vague.
So basically I need to sacrifice a launcher slot on a Manticore or Tengu if I want to go into WHs? |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
7554
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Posted - 2013.02.04 06:32:00 -
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Therran Promitz wrote:Fireflyb1 wrote:Jack Miton wrote:Orlacc wrote:Therran Promitz wrote:How does one actually do WH PvP? Do you come in with a exploration ship before hand, or carry a probe launcher on the ship you fight with? Unless you live there, NEVER go into a WH without a probe launcher. worst advice ever... "Your advice is bad... but I won't provide reasoning or explanation." YOU SIR ARE ELITE Yeah, pretty vague. So basically I need to sacrifice a launcher slot on a Manticore or Tengu if I want to go into WHs?
Nope, only if you want to leave it again.
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Therran Promitz
Project Cerberus
Caldari State Capturing
53
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Posted - 2013.02.04 23:16:00 -
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well that's the general idea |
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