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Squizz Caphinator Happy Endings 74	Posted - 2013.02.03 20:21:00 - [1] - Quote I've typed up a Google document that explains the problem Eve-Kill/zKillboard has with the API and a few things that can be done about it. https://docs.google.com/document/d/16YfJwjhuH5A3cS4NTMDFDkprnOVKsvgtuRIKk8xjTM8/edit?pli=1 Various projects I enjoy putting my time into: http://eve-kill.net \| http://zkillboard.com \| http://evewho.com \| http://evechatter.com \| http://skillq.net
Louis Vitton Black Aces 32	Posted - 2013.02.03 20:24:00 - [2] - Quote I think you made an error here and it should be Killboard A at the end. Btw thank you for taking time to write it and submit it to CCP. :) 3. Killboard B pulls API request for killmails within seconds after Killboard B.
Squizz Caphinator Happy Endings 74	Posted - 2013.02.03 20:27:00 - [3] - Quote Louis Vitton wrote: I think you made an error here and it should be Killboard A at the end. Btw thank you for taking time to write it and submit it to CCP. :) 3. Killboard B pulls API request for killmails within seconds after Killboard B. Great catch, thanks! Various projects I enjoy putting my time into: http://eve-kill.net \| http://zkillboard.com \| http://evewho.com \| http://evechatter.com \| http://skillq.net
Rain6639 Team Evil 168	Posted - 2013.02.04 05:01:00 - [4] - Quote alright, awesome. thanks for that, I saw it on the facebook page. I've deleted and renewed my API keys to make sure only EVEmon has valid ones...... and now EVEmon tells me this. has it already happened (am i dead?) //ah, k, it corrected itself. i will leave this here EDM? you mean EFM
Demortes Oracle Phoenix 1	Posted - 2013.02.04 06:01:00 - [5] - Quote What can CCP do to help reduce API errors? CCP can implement a caching layer between their API server and the rest of the world. This will effectively reduce, if not eliminate, 119 errors. The load on the API server itself should be drastically reduced. The load on their backend database will be drastically reduced. And life will be better for CCP and 3rd party developers as well. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This alone would fix the issue. CCP should know better. It's like someone dumping a truck full of **** in my house and expect me to clean it up on my dime. I don't think so. I don't know if this is a bandwith problem? XML documents are small enough. Can't really trust anyone else with the cache, as you don't know what they'll do with it once they get it. Another espionage event waiting to happen.
NickyYo StarHug 353	Posted - 2013.02.04 10:51:00 - [6] - Quote To fix this server load problem CCP needs to introduce CREST. 26k calls an hour is heavy usage for someone who uses it for free, i would rather buy an license and get guranteed usage for that amounto of calls. ..
Karbowiak 4M-CORP Raiden. 89	Posted - 2013.02.04 11:18:00 - [7] - Quote NickyYo wrote: To fix this server load problem CCP needs to introduce CREST. 26k calls an hour is heavy usage for someone who uses it for free, i would rather buy an license and get guranteed usage for that amounto of calls. It has nothing to do with load, it has to do with errors being thrown by the api, when there shouldn't be. It's about caching that should exist, but doesn't. It's about data that should be there, but isn't. If they fixed the caching to work properly, the load would be a non-issue. (Not that it is)
Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 6564	Posted - 2013.02.04 21:37:00 - [8] - Quote Couldn't you guys set up a separate caching API proxy and try to get as many killboards as possible to use it? ~a proud belligerent undesirable~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8
Squizz Caphinator Happy Endings 81	Posted - 2013.02.04 21:39:00 - [9] - Quote Andski wrote: Couldn't you guys set up a separate caching API proxy and try to get as many killboards as possible to use it? Nope, mostly because people like to wear tinfoil hats. Here's a link to some others talking about that and why it isn't such a great idea: http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/17tmdw/ccp_zkillboard_evekill_and_your_api/c88wlp8 Various projects I enjoy putting my time into: http://eve-kill.net \| http://zkillboard.com \| http://evewho.com \| http://evechatter.com \| http://skillq.net
Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 6573	Posted - 2013.02.05 04:56:00 - [10] - Quote Squizz Caphinator wrote: Andski wrote: Couldn't you guys set up a separate caching API proxy and try to get as many killboards as possible to use it? Nope, mostly because people like to wear tinfoil hats. Here's a link to some others talking about that and why it isn't such a great idea: http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/17tmdw/ccp_zkillboard_evekill_and_your_api/c88wlp8 Honestly, I figured the problem with that idea would be more of a practical one (i.e. one killboard provider burdened by hosting the proxy, the rest using their bandwidth, the hosting killboard provider being able to add vcodes from competitors' requests, etc.) than the remote possibility of some middleman making fake kills. Despite that, I still think it's a far better solution than making thousands of players reset their vCodes and diminish the quality of every killboard with everyone having to use only one. ~a proud belligerent undesirable~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8

Dei Mamaleek 23	Posted - 2013.02.05 07:41:00 - [11] - Quote NickyYo wrote: To fix this server load problem CCP needs to introduce CREST. 26k calls an hour is heavy usage for someone who uses it for free, i would rather buy an license and get guranteed usage for that amounto of calls. CREST is free anyway...
Alundil Seniors Clan Get Off My Lawn 189	Posted - 2013.03.04 14:50:00 - [12] - Quote Just out of curiosity, as I see no "blue" tags in this thread, has anyone from CCP reached out to the various "heavy-hitter" 3rd Party devs (EK/zK, EVEMon, EFT etc etc) to propose solutions? Or is CREST the solution and it just arrives when it arrives?
Squizz Caphinator Happy Endings 99	Posted - 2013.03.04 17:49:00 - [13] - Quote Alundil wrote: Just out of curiosity, as I see no "blue" tags in this thread, has anyone from CCP reached out to the various "heavy-hitter" 3rd Party devs (EK/zK, EVEMon, EFT etc etc) to propose solutions? Or is CREST the solution and it just arrives when it arrives? I posted this into a CCP PrismX thread and he responded: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2561930#post2561930 Various projects I enjoy putting my time into: http://eve-kill.net \| http://zkillboard.com \| http://evewho.com \| http://evechatter.com \| http://skillq.net


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