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Cpt Pugwash	Posted - 2005.09.08 00:47:00 - [1] Originally by: DB Preacher Since the map has been updated since TWD's statement I relay it again. Fountain is not being contested. thx dbp I Contest this statement, FA, IMP, VC ELA+Friends all have people living and fighting in Fountain BoB/Xelas claim only MN5 and sometimes YZ-LQL all other systems are either Dominated by other entities or are used only occasionally Please also mark Delve as a war zone VC fly here regular killing BoB ISS Blood Dudes Etc.
Cpt Pugwash	Posted - 2005.09.08 00:50:00 - [2] You might also want to remove VC from Stain as we haven't been operating there in any numbers for some time. I am sure we will return sometime but for now we have other fish to fry.
Cpt Pugwash	Posted - 2005.09.08 01:06:00 - [3] Originally by: TWD I quote Coug from VC (1 week ago): Originally by: Coug We might not be strong enough or organized enough to make Fountain our home as of yet, but that's fine. Unlike the FA of old, we understand our limits and understand how to adapt to change. We enjoy the guerilla attacks and lifestyle infinately better than fleet fights as they are in this day in age. That is exactly what it comes down to - little warskull fits that nicely instead of being contested. But VC are not the only group operating in Fountain. FYI DK4-3WE is also a part of Fountain and is controlled by ELA and friends, I never see any Xelas or BOB in WY-9LL, A1-CON is a mix of the FA corps living there and Xelas trying to pass through to their POS in TU without getting ganked. FA also have a presance in Chimera and just north of Core. Imperium make regular incursions into Core and force Bob/Xelas to Dock for long periods. Whilst VC alone are not enough to contest the region all these hostiles together mean Bob is far from in control of the Fountain region
Cpt Pugwash	Posted - 2005.10.25 21:27:00 - [4] Still not marked Fountain as contested? VC have controlled 3WE-D4 for months and have had a large force in Fountain core systems for 4 weeks. We fight Xelas and Bob in fountain on a daily basis. Bob announce they are attacking Aridia and you give them a war zone marker within a week, VC fight in Fountain every day for months and cannot get contested space. I think it is time for a more objective map maker
Cpt Pugwash	Posted - 2005.12.22 08:29:00 - [5] Bob have never controlled fountain, they are more like a bunch of pirates that come in for a few cheap ganks from time to time. They stopped doing even that some weeks ago yet they are still marked as controlling the region.
Cpt Pugwash	Posted - 2006.02.05 16:29:00 - [6] Originally by: TWD Originally by: TornSoul Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Contesting a Region that has NPC stations takes a lot more time because of this, it will take an even longer time to get it uncontested. Coming down to take a look (If ive got the time) can speed things up. I suggest you take a week or so off, or however much you deem necessary, and spend that time in Outer Ring and Fountain. The current map doesnt reflect the situation in either of those regions (and hasnt for a long time - shrug) I dont know what kind of 'meassure' you use - But how about "Who are you most likely to run into, (and potentially) get shot at by, the majority of the time" I'll let you be the judge of what to put in place of the current. But change is needed. (Please note, that although my alliance affiliation more or less gives away in what direction I would prefer the change, I have not impossed this on you or anyone else - But simply invited you to come take a look yourself. This is as much a note for all the would-be flamers - Save it!) This is about territorial control. We can enforce the claim, while others cannot. An example for this can be found here Blobbing a system once a month does not constitute control Bob lost their last sovereinghty claiming POS to VC/IMP and have not dared to put one back as they know they do not have the manpower to defend it. Bob are overstretched and incapable of controlling Fountain. At best you deserve a pirate marker for the occasional raid on Fountain space
Cpt Pugwash	Posted - 2006.02.27 21:07:00 - [7] Originally by: DB Preacher The main VC corps have left Fountain and moved to Stain a while ago. Marker 10 should be removed as such. We still have fights with a random bunch of corps in the Aridia/d4ku are including FA/IMP/VC carebears/local aridians, so that should remain as a warzone. cheers, dbp Only 1 VC corp has moved to Stain Reformation. You are right Fountain is not a warzone it is contested 1 weekend in Fountain does not give you control nor remove a war marker. You post above is nothing more than blatant trolling
Cpt Pugwash	Posted - 2006.02.27 21:54:00 - [8] I was in fountain last night killed a Xelas industrial on my travels. Saw 30 FA in WY-9LL countless VC and not a single Bob member. As has been stated before coming in force once a month does not constitute Control.
Cpt Pugwash	Posted - 2006.02.28 07:49:00 - [9] Is this how Bob intend to conqueor the forums with insults Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion Whining on the forum once a month does not constitute "control" either. Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion Stabwash, False assumptions that I have only 1 charachter and never go to Fountain Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion In future, please refrain from commenting on regions you have no first hand experience of Stabwash, leave it to one of your alliance mates that actually tries to live in the area eh? Originally by: j0sephine neither does having one man kill single industrial and telling stories about what he saw and what he did not. And Blobbing the forums in total disregard to the rules whilst trying to twist the rules to apply in their favour. 1 representative from each alliance is all it takes to make your claim on here, VC can stick to that rule why do Bob think it does not apply to them? Fountain is contested, to claim it is not even a war zone whislt you have a 50 man fleet in there enfocing your claim on the area is trolling.
Cpt Pugwash	Posted - 2006.03.14 18:08:00 - [10] Originally by: thebold Mr Map maker, I reinstate my original request, a dedicated force has moved into Delve and we are living in those systems. On a daily basis Ganks and gang fights are taking place, Please check either alliance kill boards for confirmation... Please could it be noted that VC is also apart of our gangs, We are in the Blood Raider Part of Delve which is 2 or so jumps from NOL. Please could a VC rep and BOB rep respond.. Thanks VC Reformation is assisting SA in Delve a small number of RFM are assisting Imperium attack Delve from Sahkt. The main body of VC will continue to operate in Fountain both from the NPC stations around YZ-LQL and out of Hophib in Aridia
Cpt Pugwash	Posted - 2006.03.24 11:01:00 - [11] Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 24/03/2006 09:45:30 Hi, I'd like to clarify the position in Stain at this exact point in time. If it changes then I'll reiterate later. I have no clue who Novus Nationis are. Never seen them in stain, never seen them in Delve. BoB have now cleared everything North of 4GQ except for one last system of HM- where the corporation "The Raven Warriors" are the only corporation in Stain putting up a territorial fight. The rest of SA have pulled out, en masse, from Stain and any contradiction to this is simply a lie. I can corroborate that with the following quotes by SA members: Originally by: thebold All SA corps are moving into Southern and Northen Delve to engage the enemy on there home turf. Originally by: Cuebick We're not dead, and we're not in Stain SE are in complete control of 4gq and we are not fighting them for control of Southern Stain at all. You will need to contact a representative of SE to confirm how far their control goes. The West of Stain is devoid of any meaningful life since VC left. dbp More lies from DBP and Bob as we have come to expect. When are bob going to follow the thread rules and post with just one member? VC have not left stain, VC were never in Stain. Only RFM were in stain and we haven't so much as changed station. I am sure SA SE and Tribal Souls can confirm this. I live in stain and see more Tribal Souls than I do Bob. As in Fountain Bob Blob one area and claim they control the entire region.
Cpt Pugwash	Posted - 2006.03.24 11:48:00 - [12] Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 24/03/2006 11:26:27 Dude, don't waste your time posting rubbish. No one takes you seriously at all, not even your own alliance according to your alliance chat. RFM are in VC. RFM were in Stain. VC were therefore in Stain. That isn't really rocket science now is it. As for the rest, you said yourself that you had left to come bring it to us in delve again only 2 weeks ago. Sorry if I'm not a mind-reader and you have now returned to Stain (but wait, that's not VC right, it's only RFM who are VC, no wait, I'm confused) From what I can see, you have 1 character in fountain, 1 character in delve and 1 character in Stain and want to claim you are contesting all 3 regions. How about this... You concentrate on what VC are doing, you know... your alliance, the one that you are in and leave BoB to deal with our alliance. So make it simple. What "exactly" are VC doing? Are they living in Stain, Delve or Fountain? Are they trying to contest any of the regions? Stop messing up the map thread with pointless flames about what BoB are doing and simply post about what YOU are doing. dbp You spread your propaganda with lies and half truths VC as an alliance were not in Stain only RFM are in STAIN (1 corp is not the alliance) Neither VC nor RFM have said at an time we are contesting Stain. I never said we left Stain, only that we had been in Delve assisting SA and then only some of us not the entire corp by any means. I never said we were contesting Delve. I could go on to respond to your insults but this is a map thread and I will contain my response to the territorial comments above. I would apreciate it if you and you alliance could likewise try and keep to the thread/forum rules.

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