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thoth foc	Posted - 2005.07.18 11:50:00 - [1] Edited by: thoth foc on 18/07/2005 11:50:55 You could also add a [5] v RA to cache, but we pretty much fight anywhere from hed-gp->cache.. we also have various friggie gank squads in and around our area from time 2 time, FIX and Foundation mostly atm, but no major opposition apart from RA --thoth
thoth foc	Posted - 2005.07.19 00:55:00 - [2] Originally by: Shiwan Khan HA! Sorry to say but IMP forces run rampant through all of [5] "claimed" space daily. it's not exactly hard to run and SS though area's u have BM's for, question is how much threat u hold, and currently that is less than foundation, fix but mostly RA are the threat in the area.. Originally by: Shiwan Khan You only wish [5] was winning the war. actually mostly we wished you would just fight it rather than talk about it.. Originally by: Shiwan Khan at least we are willing to fight outnumered without bringing the outrageous 20+ battleship fleets to force an IMP force of maybe 10 frigs and cruisers off the gate. Hed-gp isnt isnt [5] claim area, camping there is hardly making curse a warzone. Originally by: Shiwan Khan Occasionally we do bring battleship fleets but those are only met with 2:1 or 3:1 odds in battleships At which point you promptly safe spot. Your forces are closer to gate campers/pirates and this is the same in all 0.0 Originally by: Shiwan Khan P.S. Tundragon and TRS only wish they could take control of outer ring and syndicate. Anyways, as i said above i agree recently [5] space has been a warzone, a war with RA. The fighting is moving farther east as is goes on, but it is still going on. If Imp want to claim they have been helping RA, it hasnt been during euro times. --thoth
thoth foc	Posted - 2005.07.19 11:01:00 - [3] Originally by: ParMizaN why didnt i get the memo :\| memo's are for alts only... --thoth
thoth foc	Posted - 2005.07.20 01:15:00 - [4] Edited by: thoth foc on 20/07/2005 01:17:02 Originally by: Shiwan Khan Actually, sorry to have to be the one to tell you but we have been fighting you. When numbers/situations allow. We are not stupid, we are not going to try to have a fleet battle when we have 10-15 battleships plus support against a 25+ battleship fleet plus support, especially on your terms. I never claimed in my post that HED-GP was 5 space. I really do not understand why a force would not safespot facing a force 3:1 theirs in battleships (not taking into account the ammount of EW your side brings) From reading the thread looks like the map maker has already discovered your information was misinformed. And like yourself i dont really understand why your reasons for mostly running to SS when we try to engage, are important to the map making process, the fact you admit it and we confirm it is enough. That omission alone proves you are a pirate force rather than an invading force and the map is meant to represent fact, not postering. --thoth
thoth foc	Posted - 2005.07.20 08:02:00 - [5] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Que Omnius music I've already got eyes in HLW/Curse, though i cant say ive ever seen any imps or their friends. Can the Imp guys stop with the "we're in curse, honest we are" arguements, the map maker has already stated he hasnt seen u. As for disputing ownership of HED-GP, camping choke points has never got any more recognition than a pirate make, which we fully agree with for HED. --thoth
thoth foc	Posted - 2005.07.22 11:20:00 - [6] Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux That's called having a fleet in local eo2 (like last night) with a 20-men strong ATUK fleet sitting behind you in NK-7 (again, like last night) I was on from about 6pm->3:30am GMT.. can you say "didnt happen" ? We werent even within 20 jumps of there tbh --thoth
thoth foc	Posted - 2005.07.23 00:13:00 - [7] Originally by: sapage1 Originally by: Avalon Beholder Of those 10 only 4 are both IMP and outside HED. You posted 2 RA POS kills ffs. Way to prove a point. VOTF INVOLVED-1 Section XIII IMP AFFILIATED CORP-2 SEE ABOVE-3 IN HED BUT STILL KILLING THE FIVE-4 SEE ABOVE-5 ABOVE-6 SOLIDLINE - IMP -7 SEE ABOVE-8 ABOVE-9 VOTF -10 Please dont make me do that again. LOL.. is this enuff evidence to have the IMP war tag moved to hed-gp, RA have a war tag of thier own.. --thoth
thoth foc	Posted - 2005.08.07 09:45:00 - [8] Originally by: Raeff if any 1 alliance controls GW more than the others its [5] .. we have considered GW uncontested and in the control of -V- for ages.. --thoth
thoth foc	Posted - 2005.08.17 07:51:00 - [9] with fighting from 4c- down to yz and both sides "contesting" the other area.. maybe 1 of those next mixed bends across the border would keep everyone happy :) --thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
thoth foc	Posted - 2005.09.19 06:48:00 - [10] Originally by: Avalon Beholder Originally by: Cartiff Our assaults on GW started on wednesday, we have been in GW everyday since then, and several large battles and smaller skirmishes have taken place since then. The fights have been lots of fun, and we are enjoying ourselves. Our motives for this attack are our own, we are asking for a contested in GW, that is all. As you have seen, more and more NBSI pilots are coming to the area, and so the engagement are only gonna heat up. Lets have lots of fun and shoot lots. BTW, Myself, DJ and Parity are the leaders of NBSI, Heyjoe is a director of E-R so we can all post in an official stance in this thread. You dont contest a region by taking some fleets there for a few days. Warzone at best. To contest youll need to be there a few weeks constantly at least. tbh unless NBSI have managed more than their usual friggie gank squads, which i seriously doubt, a pirate tag is more suitable.. --thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA

thoth foc	Posted - 2005.09.19 10:59:00 - [11] Originally by: DB Preacher Pos + troops + offical forum post declaring the contesting of a region = Contested Region. Constant daily attacks from troops over a sustained period of time with the troops living in the region or very nearby (not just roadtrips) = Warzone. tbh.. Pos + troops can = road trip also.. and given the regular updates of the map and the fact the politics are mostly static.. is the "sustained period of time" important? in reality the warzones are just different battlefields for old conflicts.. --thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
thoth foc	Posted - 2005.11.06 01:57:00 - [12] Originally by: Invisible Touch Originally by: Tomski Ruslav As of last night RISK controls both stations in branch - please update the map accordingly. If it helps you to verify it we are the 2 little green dots on the map where PA was. Nothing is left of the RISK territorials claims. the area looks very contested on our few trips up.. --thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
thoth foc	Posted - 2005.11.07 17:36:00 - [13] Originally by: Seleene FFS, guys, this is the reason Josh only does an update every few weeks. All respect to those involved, but capturing a station for a day or two is hardly worthy of a map update. Hold it for a few weeks and THEN make a post on this thread. mhm ur over rating pos warfare tbh.. RISK have been in the area for a number of weeks by now.. --thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
thoth foc	Posted - 2005.11.14 16:11:00 - [14] Originally by: Invisible Touch You also know there was a huge PA/F-E/NBSI fleet of 200+ in response to your own 80+ and [5]'s 80+ this weekend which unfortunately ended with no fun for any of the ppl involved (and no fun for the node also). After that, weekend action was limited to some POS killing and stuff afaik. PA/F-E/NBSI's only attempts to defend the area consist of these "shows of strength" otherwise known as they try and kill the node enuff so that PVP is impossible.. appart from that, they hide in stations when hostiles are seen.. --thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
thoth foc	Posted - 2005.11.14 17:33:00 - [15] Originally by: maria stallion 5 still roams around in small gank squads through pa and F-E space in all fairness we dont ahve a big interest in jita.. --thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
thoth foc	Posted - 2005.11.15 11:17:00 - [16] Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux Regardless of who shoots who and who has better numbers and who safespots more often, The Five only contest H-PA and are nowhere to be found anywhere else in Venal. I dont think it's up to you where we contest.. The only reason you dont find us outside H-PA is that you dont look.. u automatically assume those little blips are PA NPC'ing :) i had a nice little chat with dbp in pf and spent most of the wkd watching PA stay docked in p-v havent been in H-PA for over a week now.. better intel ftw? --thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
thoth foc	Posted - 2005.11.16 10:03:00 - [17] Edited by: thoth foc on 16/11/2005 10:04:18 Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux So if I take 30 guys with me and base out of HLW I contest curse? we are more active in the area than the previous "owners", we have been for quite a number of weeks.. i'm more interested in how your claiming PA are contesting the area with us.. it is us that has to look for them to engage.. they came looking for us only once in a number of weeks, and only with F-E and NBSI to hold their hands.. they stay docked mostly.. --thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
thoth foc	Posted - 2005.11.16 11:49:00 - [18] Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 16/11/2005 11:11:33 Thoth, I think what peeps are getting at is that if you want to contest Venal then you need to get one of the high ranking [5] members to make a simple post in this thread stating something like: "Hi, we are [5] and we are here to stay in Venal." Keeps it nice and easy mate ;) dbp maybe.. i assumed drilla's post covered that.. (/me is just peon, polictics is for others..) it just seems strange F-E are more active defending PA controlled space than PA.. it's more like a F-E Protectorate than a PA held area.. F-E jumping up and down saying "really PA owns it" --thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
thoth foc	Posted - 2005.12.05 13:20:00 - [19] Originally by: Amthrianius Venal is pretty much ours now, the only people who actually fight us in Venal are F-E. Seems PA have fled the region. PA seemed to have moved to branch last i was there.. --thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
thoth foc	Posted - 2005.12.10 11:55:00 - [20] Originally by: maria stallion the reason why you see us not fighting is because everytime we get a fleet 5 goes back to H-pa and dock or get there 150 km snipping bs. even on equal numbers... so.. you saying.. if you get a fleet, and we get our fleet.. u run away.. isnt that enuff to remove F-E control of tribute? --thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA

thoth foc	Posted - 2005.12.12 13:26:00 - [21] Originally by: threeD venal - only place contested in this region is HP-A system [5] sits there and lauch thier gank squads - there is no way that whole venal is contested since we all live there w/o any trouble if PA had any kind of control on venal, you would maybe try and stop our roaming squads.. the fact you dont speaks volumes about who controls teh space.. i remember being in a roaming squad stuck in PA space for 3 days when you camped us in with bubbles for that long.. doesnt happen now.. as soon as you see a BS you insta dock. there is still PA in venal, but F-E fight more there than PA do --thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
thoth foc	Posted - 2005.12.20 20:59:00 - [22] Originally by: pershphanie You have marker 8 listed as the5, -V-, SA vs PA, FE, NBSI. SA, -V-, the5 are no longer fighting there. It is only atuk there now it has been 99% ATUK for all but a couple of weeks, there is no change to our presence but i'd say removing SA and -V- is very appropriate.. as for scouting the area, well it kinna needs fixing by CCP b4 anything much can happen.. --thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
thoth foc	Posted - 2005.12.21 01:25:00 - [23] Edited by: thoth foc on 21/12/2005 01:27:10 Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: thoth foc as for scouting the area, well it kinna needs fixing by CCP b4 anything much can happen.. Fix what exactly? 5->10 minute delays on doing anything in a couple of the systems.. jumping, aligning warping activating modules... u get the idea.. i didnt even bother logging in today cuz when i got on ts, i heard about alot of us were experiencing CTD's every time they tried to do anything in certain places.. most ops were just cancelled this evening, due to lack of confidence in servers about here.. 1 of the main routes from venal to tribute was having problems pre patch, lots of ppl getting stuck etc.. well post patch things seem to have gotten much worse.. i think F-E will support the assessment if you wanna check here for pershphanie's assessment of the area --thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
thoth foc	Posted - 2005.12.21 12:00:00 - [24] Originally by: DjDangle Maybe a warzone marker is needed for F.E vs. CCP servers? [.5.] + F-E v CCP --thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
thoth foc	Posted - 2006.01.07 00:46:00 - [25] Originally by: Edoo Edited by: Edoo on 06/01/2006 23:33:31 Originally by: Amthrianius Originally by: maxsuicide1 Originally by: Amthrianius YOU ARE NBSI, YOU DONT SPEAK FOR PA. he is in the warzone, why cant he? He came to venal once and kept indocking and redocking in an ishkur. Havent seen him since and kb shows he is in empire, not venal. I have many chars, and i know whats going on. However i do remember that instance when i was in my ishkur, when i got insults about my mother in caps lock from one of your members. i'm sure your mother is important to this thread, but your info is always very bias and rather inaccuate tbh.. --thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
thoth foc	Posted - 2006.01.07 12:50:00 - [26] Originally by: maxsuicide1 Edited by: maxsuicide1 on 07/01/2006 12:32:24 atuk again make a thread into a flame fest. - its always the same ones isnt it? lol.. GJ. vince: u must have missed half the thread out, but basically this is a run down of what happened to turn this thread into a smack fest between atuk and edoo. edoo posts honest opinion/suggestion for the map. Amth comes in and then smacktalks him, saying he cant comment on the map. I say 'he is in the warzone, why cant he?' Amth says he only seen edoo around once and all he did was dock and undock and not much else. Edoo says he has many characters, one of which has been smacktalked about his mother by members of atuk, either refering to the smacktalk going on in this thread or maybe that amth was in local at the time this happened ingame. Enter thoth and amth again to smack edoo down. Edoo defends himself. Enter vince as backup for thoth and amth. Why do u atuk guys feel the need to smack in every thread available to you? This is a map thread, not a 'omgwtfpafenbsigettingowned!!11' thread is it? Give it a rest already, if you have nothing good to say dont post at all. I somehow think mods will be deleting pretty much all posts up to edoo's first soon. This is a map thread, ur posts do not relate to the map.. nor does Edoo's references to smack or his mother.. Edoo's alliance next to never enters venal, to even have any accurate info on the situation, Edoo's PA character sits docked in 6nj most of the time. There are few kills in venal these days as our attention has been elsewhere, and it is only us that aggressively defend our space. A matter of a handful of PA actively fight in the area.. and these will be setup to kill smaller ships and run away.. --thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
thoth foc	Posted - 2006.01.08 03:23:00 - [27] Originally by: Slender Brenda Originally by: ZedLey Edoo if you need to defend PA or our claim for Venal then use your imaginary PA character for it. fine. Branch - PA Venal - warzone m'kay? we kill as much in branch and tenal as PA do in venal.. so if 1 is a warzone then both should be.. not really bothered which josh picks tbh.. --thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
thoth foc	Posted - 2006.01.08 04:38:00 - [28] Originally by: Slender Brenda Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Slender Brenda Originally by: ZedLey Edoo if you need to defend PA or our claim for Venal then use your imaginary PA character for it. fine. Branch - PA Venal - warzone m'kay? we kill as much in branch and tenal as PA do in venal.. so if 1 is a warzone then both should be.. not really bothered which josh picks tbh.. No because Branch is no more dangerous than in times of peace. The odd gank squad comes through, but there are no battles, and no constant conflict. Which roughly describes venals wrt [5]/PA.. PA dont try to engage [5] in venals, and we at least try to engage PA in branch.. --thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
thoth foc	Posted - 2006.01.12 12:57:00 - [29] Originally by: Naphtalia lol ok :) roaming != warzone I thought.. we are still roaming in curse as well.. fleetbattles are happening in H-PA not in D7, but I don't want to map updated now. just want to get this info in so with the next update it can be taken into account. It is just that ATUK are owning our fleets in Venal now (pa contested space) instead of tribute (f-e contested space)... i think a better solution would be to add F-E to the warzone marker in venal (if they arent there already) or maybe merge the warzone markers in some way (F-E are more active than PA in venal anyway).. we arent overly active in specifically tribute atm, but we are fighting just 6 jumps away.. it's teh same war with the same ppl, and i dont think we need weekly updates on the weekly hot spots.. --thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
thoth foc	Posted - 2006.01.17 14:17:00 - [30] Josh have you had a chance to scout venal yet? With F-E officially leaving venal F-E Official Post and citing lack of support defending it from PA as 1 of the reasons, you might want to consider changing the map to reflex our full control of the area. PA had left the defence of the area to F-E for quite sometime and this final impediment is now gone. --thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA

thoth foc	Posted - 2006.01.23 11:41:00 - [31] Originally by: Hoshi Since when is control of a region decided by losses? In that case I guess G should be given control of all ascn space on default even if they are not where anymore. I still say we need to get clear definitions posted about what it takes to control a region. Similar to the one Joshua has on contesting regions. try: Control descriptions ATUK/.5. have shown a clear military dominance in the area for an extended period of time (and we're talking months here). This has been confirmed by entities hostile to us, and even some PA. We patiently waited recognition of this fact, despite it being obvious to anyone that cared by the area (which largely doesnt include PA) from the earliest engagements of the campaign. --thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
thoth foc	Posted - 2006.01.23 15:20:00 - [32] Originally by: Hoshi I don't care about venal, what I do care about is people (5 being one of the most notorious but are far from alone) claiming and being given control on map over region which they have no real in game control over what so ever. why do you care about us? if you have no concerns in the area, why infer you have any knowledge of the current situation here? --thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
thoth foc	Posted - 2006.01.23 17:20:00 - [33] Originally by: pacifica ATM i m glad to fight u or at lease to try to fight U before u log OFF ... Venal is contested by PA,RISK,ATUK and all the ppl that want to try their Mark in 0.0 space Firstly RISK have never indicated they wish to be involved in contesting Venal unless you are now a RISK spokesperson? Secondly as F-E have testified, .5. have been involved in defending our region daily for weeks. If you claimed this region why was it F-E fighting for it and not you? If PA decide to contest the region ingame, the results will be self evident. So lets leave this discussion to ingame (for guns) and if PA have significant results to prove they are at least trying to fight us, by the next map update, then i have no doubt Joshua will consider your claims. --thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
thoth foc	Posted - 2006.01.31 11:38:00 - [34] You can remove the war marks between F-E and .5. --thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA We do not go hunting, cuz hunting infers the possibility of failure.. We go killing...
thoth foc	Posted - 2006.02.20 17:14:00 - [35] Before we get a stream of PA/NBSI complaining, I would suggest branch should remain a warzone marker atm, as i'm not sure we wish to "officially contest" the region.. --thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA We do not go hunting, cuz hunting infers the possibility of failure.. We go killing...
thoth foc	Posted - 2006.03.07 09:52:00 - [36] Originally by: Lord Wimbishi they know full and well they are getting wiped out piece meal most of the time they come to OUR areas in Venal.PA. Which areas of venal are you claiming to control? (As in you stop us using as we want) --thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA We do not go hunting, cuz hunting infers the possibility of failure.. We go killing...
thoth foc	Posted - 2006.03.27 23:43:00 - [37] Deklein should be marked as a warzone.. --thoth (aka orbs) [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA We do not go hunting, cuz hunting infers the possibility of failure.. We go killing...
thoth foc	Posted - 2006.03.28 22:18:00 - [38] Originally by: Ather Ialeas Originally by: thoth foc Deklein should be marked as a warzone.. I think this was debated before the current map update and the conclusion was that there just isn't simply a big enough enemy force in Deklein to justify a warzone marker. There isnt a big enough defensive force to warrant larger scale operations, would a "pirate infestation" marker be more appropriate? --thoth (aka orbs) [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA We do not go hunting, cuz hunting infers the possibility of failure.. We go killing...

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