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Gryphon Infinite
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2013.02.03 21:11:00 -
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Can we please have Player Corporations deleted, if they have 0 members? Or have been inactive for like 5 years.
You can witness this yourself if you inspect the Corporation Finder tool. |
NEONOVUS
Saablast Followers
315
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Posted - 2013.02.03 21:42:00 -
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I agree with this, if the corp has 0 members it should be closed and left as such with the name reentering the pool.
Which it should be but wasnt when I last tried. |
Gryphon Infinite
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2013.02.03 21:44:00 -
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Thank you my friend.
There are so many benefits to list:::
Name is reentered into the name pool.
Less spam, and better clean up in the corporation finder tool. |
T' Elk
Happy Little Spaceships
573
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Posted - 2013.02.03 22:55:00 -
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Do it. Now. I have spoken.
~Badposter since FOOOOREEEEEVAAAAAR~
// Inferno Came. It was meh. //
The Beard is Back, Ladies and Gents! |
Djana Libra
The Black Ops
Black Core Alliance
59
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Posted - 2013.02.03 23:01:00 -
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meh i expected a post about the horrible corp management UI we have atm.
but yeah add something like a billing system for having your corporation registered with concord, no isk, no billl payment, no corp |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Air
The Unthinkables
2816
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Posted - 2013.02.03 23:03:00 -
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If we're annoyed, imagine how annoyed the DUST players will be at having to name themselves replacing vowels with numbers |
Tikktokk Tokkzikk
Cult of Escobar
137
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Posted - 2013.02.03 23:22:00 -
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Easy fix really:
If an account unsubscribe, kick all characters from any player corporation.
If a corp has 0 members, make the name available. |
Ottersmacker
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
342
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Posted - 2013.02.03 23:25:00 -
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Tikktokk Tokkzikk wrote:If a corp has 0 members, make the name available.
this is already the case
i just locked an open door.. strange, yet symbolically compelling. |
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
1593
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Posted - 2013.02.03 23:46:00 -
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Ottersmacker wrote:Tikktokk Tokkzikk wrote:If a corp has 0 members, make the name available. this is already the case
Yarp. When a corp has 0 members, it is closed and no longer exists. The name can be used again.
"The nice thing about quotes is that they give us a nodding acquaintance with the originator which is often socially impressive." ~Kenneth Williams |
Eija-Riitta Veitonen
Unicorn Enterprise
49
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Posted - 2013.02.04 00:02:00 -
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There was a dev response a few years back on why closed down corporations are retained in the database and players are unable to open up new ones with the same name: They're still in someone's employment history.
In regards of kicking characters on inactive accounts from player corps - are you high on something or what? |
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
1593
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Posted - 2013.02.04 01:03:00 -
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Eija-Riitta Veitonen wrote:There was a dev response a few years back on why closed down corporations are retained in the database and players are unable to open up new ones with the same name: They're still in someone's employment history
Check my employment history and you'll see the same corp name used and labeled (closed) twice. I'm sure it could be used a 3rd time if someone wanted to, but i doubt they would.
They must have made a change since you heard that.
"The nice thing about quotes is that they give us a nodding acquaintance with the originator which is often socially impressive." ~Kenneth Williams |
Cephalus
Epic Logistic
Dawn of Transcendence
1
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Posted - 2013.02.04 01:39:00 -
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i dont think we should dig up dead corpses.
let them rest in peace whit their history.
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Mars Theran
Red Rogue Squadron
1620
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Posted - 2013.02.04 01:48:00 -
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Totally agree. There is a mess of Corps out there.
For the ones with a single player in them, send a mail out to inform them of the imminent closure of their Corp*, (30 days), and to offer them an invite back to EVE for 7 days to try it out again. Inform them that if they do not return within that period and choose to resubscribe, then their Corp will go into liquidation and any remaining assets will be placed in secure storage, following which a 45 day period will pass and the Corp name will be erased from the history books.
This would make them unlinkable from player history, (just like any closed Corp), and free up both ticker and name selection for use again. Personally, I think the removal of these would be a great benefit, and it would allow for one more thing: Those Corps that fall into this category which have POS in space would immediately release the POS from control and possession.
This would of course mean the POS would unanchor and fall into a deteriorating orbit which would result in its destruction within 2 hours, or at the next down time.
\o/
*Diplomatically of course. New policy, clearing databases and freeing up tags, tickers, etc.. unused, blahblablah... and so on as needed to ensure they don't think it is personal, which it isn't. 
zubzubzubzubzubzubzubzub |
Wigglenomics
C O C A I N E
0
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Posted - 2013.02.04 02:01:00 -
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< ade this corp recently and I must say that I was surprised it was available.
It will be one of the largest and most successful corp and eventually, alliances in game (have to speak it into existence, HALLELUJAH!!!).
But yeah...I was floored... |
Eija-Riitta Veitonen
Unicorn Enterprise
49
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Posted - 2013.02.04 02:04:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:Eija-Riitta Veitonen wrote:There was a dev response a few years back on why closed down corporations are retained in the database and players are unable to open up new ones with the same name: They're still in someone's employment history Check my employment history and you'll see the same corp name used and labeled (closed) twice. I'm sure it could be used a 3rd time if someone wanted to, but i doubt they would. They must have made a change since you heard that.
This can happen if you joined, then left, then joined the same corp again before it was closed down. Employment history lists all the periods of your "employment" with corporation, in the chronological descending order. If you were a part of a corporation on multiple periods with any amount of breaks in between, they all will be listed as separate entries. This is why the closed corps do not get deleted and hence do not allow their names to be reused. |
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
1599
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Posted - 2013.02.04 02:41:00 -
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Eija-Riitta Veitonen wrote:This can happen if you joined, then left, then joined the same corp again before it was closed down.
Maybe, but i made the corp and closed it both times myself.
"The nice thing about quotes is that they give us a nodding acquaintance with the originator which is often socially impressive." ~Kenneth Williams |
Nariya Kentaya
Tartarus Ventures
Surely You're Joking
317
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Posted - 2013.02.04 03:14:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:Eija-Riitta Veitonen wrote:This can happen if you joined, then left, then joined the same corp again before it was closed down. Maybe, but i made the corp and closed it both times myself.
I can attest to the validity of this claim.
almost a year ago, i had made a corp called Celestial Ascension, to act as the lowsec combat corp for me and my buddies after we stopped being miners.
after just a couple engagements in low/null, we started getting nullsec recruitment requests and people asking us "hey, what happened to X, does he still fly with you all?"
only to go to eve-kill and see that apparently the corp name we chose was the name of a fairly successful combat corp years prior to me starting it, and people were scared of us miners/ratters in lowsec cause they thought we were actually "1337 pvp" (it was amarr lowsec, not hard to be considered elite down there, though we did rat in pvp ships, so thats probably another reason peopel thought we knew what we were doing) |
Arronicus
Vintas Industries
Mistakes Were Made.
157
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Posted - 2013.02.04 06:42:00 -
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Eija-Riitta Veitonen wrote:There was a dev response a few years back on why closed down corporations are retained in the database and players are unable to open up new ones with the same name:They're still in someone's employment history.
This is simply not true. Once a corporation has 0 members in it, the corporation becomes closed, and a new corporation can be created with that name, and ticker. Same goes for alliances. They are just retained in the database, like you said, for employment history records.
Thread was created on a misconception.
/thread. |
Gryphon Infinite
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2013.02.04 10:38:00 -
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Arronicus wrote:Eija-Riitta Veitonen wrote:There was a dev response a few years back on why closed down corporations are retained in the database and players are unable to open up new ones with the same name:They're still in someone's employment history.
This is simply not true. Once a corporation has 0 members in it, the corporation becomes closed, and a new corporation can be created with that name, and ticker. Same goes for alliances. They are just retained in the database, like you said, for employment history records. Thread was created on a misconception. /thread.
Nope. Here is evidence. I JUST took this and uploaded it. Here is an example of a corp with 0 members, still in existence. And there are MANY more like it where that came from.
Make sure you zoom in.
http://tinypic.com/r/28hg5xu/6
/thread |
Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1748
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Posted - 2013.02.04 11:43:00 -
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Is it possible that what people are seeing are corps that weren't closed, but instead all the members just quit the corp?
I thought the whole DOT thing was due to not being unable to use old corp and alliance names. |
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
1608
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Posted - 2013.02.04 12:19:00 -
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Gryphon Infinite wrote:Here is an example of a corp with 0 members, still in existence. And there are MANY more like it where that came from.
What manner of witchcraft is this. 
Maybe it happens when the last member in the corp biomasses?
Natsett Amuinn wrote:Is it possible that what people are seeing are corps that weren't closed, but instead all the members just quit the corp?
I thought the whole DOT thing was due to not being unable to use old corp and alliance names.
But didn't goons themselves take the Band of Brothers name after getting it closed? I think they only do the dot thing for corps/alliances that are dead but not closed yet.
"The nice thing about quotes is that they give us a nodding acquaintance with the originator which is often socially impressive." ~Kenneth Williams |
Doctor Ungabungas
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
264
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Posted - 2013.02.05 08:24:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:Gryphon Infinite wrote:Here is an example of a corp with 0 members, still in existence. And there are MANY more like it where that came from. What manner of witchcraft is this. Maybe it happens when the last member in the corp biomasses? Natsett Amuinn wrote:Is it possible that what people are seeing are corps that weren't closed, but instead all the members just quit the corp?
I thought the whole DOT thing was due to not being unable to use old corp and alliance names. But didn't goons themselves take the Band of Brothers name after getting it closed? I think they only do the dot thing for corps/alliances that are dead but not closed yet.
I suspect it's just a bug, petition it and they might free it up.
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Eija-Riitta Veitonen
Unicorn Enterprise
55
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Posted - 2013.02.05 21:32:00 -
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I've just tested this and i take back my words in regards of inability to recreate corps that were closed under same name - it is, indeed, possible. I'm sorry for the misinformation on my part.
As for why corporation with 0 members was not closed down - maybe it's a bug of sorts and something actually prevents it from being properly closed down. Like anchored stuff that still belongs to corp (containers, poses, pocos) or outstanding contracts/ads/whatever.
Maybe we should report it to CCP so they can properly investigate it? |
Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
1132
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Posted - 2013.02.05 21:34:00 -
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Gryphon Infinite wrote:Can we please have Player Corporations deleted, if they have 0 members? Or have been inactive for like 5 years.
You can witness this yourself if you inspect the Corporation Finder tool.
Only if inactive towers in high sec are allowed to be popped without consequence or unanchored and taken.
"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." -á --- Sorlac |
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