It's not harassment it's extortion and it is a perfectly valid way to make money. You can move to another region, hire mercs to war dec them or just deal with some other way.

actually the way its being done is harrassment, it breaks the eula and nothing is gettin done even tho ppl have petitioned this in the past and present. this player has written laws that he states have been voted on by the players even tho he was the onbly peron who voted on them, hes recruited other players to harrass those who do not buckle to his demands, you get folllowed from belt to belt, system to system and end up losing your ships with this bullying tactic

Why haven't you retaliated against them, yet? Or paid someone else to do it? I assume from your statements that you must have some kill rights to sell by now.

Or, as has been suggested, move on to other areas. Find some quiet bit of lowsec where they won't follow you, and mine there to your heart's content. Their bullying tactic relies on hisec mechanics that generally prevent you or anyone else from pre-empting their nonsense.

too many people are gettin harrassed and having their game play interupted by this New Order where they have to pay 10mill to whoever and are allowed to mine for a year get ganked and are not allowed to respond in any way and generally get follwed system to system until they either pay up or quit the game. this is harrassment and should not be allowed to continue. i have been told that it doesnt break the eula but if i understand things correctly following someone system to system and disrupting their gameplay is breaking the eula. hence james 315 and his new order should not be allowed to continue. it is annoying and harrassing to the point of ppl leaving the game

considering he and his followers are following ppl into every high sec system, they dont actually own a system either they just like to think they do and then break the eula by harrassing every player untill they pay up. this is the guy who is putting himself forward for csm aswell? and we all know the csm is the scapegoat for anything that goes wrong, i can see his 'cult' failing considering he has religous inferences withinj his whole new order layout and his followers tend to preach religion when speaking in local. religion should not be bought into a game

if they are harrass players to make them pay for a 'permit' to mine in peace then yea it breaks the eula as bullyin is not acceptable in any game.

this is harrassment that goes too far if they are following players to different systems just to try and make them pay this permit fee.

theyv been doin it since june last year in the gallente systems and now they are moving further afield. people have complained about this before but always james 315 and his ilk have managed to deny that they are bullying anyone. this needs sorting out now

CCP defines "harassment" as; singling out a player for no other motive other than to enrage and/or frustrate AND following said player around despite any and all reasonable attempts to evade you (moving one or two jumps over is not a reasonable attempt at evasion).

So unless they are doing exactly what I described above, it's not harassment. It's just part of the game. Feel free to make a petition though if you are not convinced.


Yep. And the DEVs responded to it. It's legal gameplay.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=199310&find=unread

Actually, in that link you provided, it really doesn't go into detail about how far you have to travel, it just says "another location".... so kind of up in the air how far they are allowed to follow if they do, soooo, I don't think anyone here other than CCP or a GM is in any position to make a call on how much is a reasonable effort.

While it will involve inconvenience, we will have to see that one actively tried evasion before we consider someone being followed around and harassed. Merely changing belts in the same system or moving a few thousand meters to another asteroid would not qualify in this regard. Ideally you would move to other systems and more than just one or two jumps to avoid being found again quickly, requiring some effort to locate you again (i.e. through locator agents).

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2536157#post2536157

Second quote.


Bolded the important bits.

nothing is gettin done even tho ppl have petitioned this in the past and present

kudos to this guy, hes pretty much made up a new high sec mafia of sorts getting folks to pay him protection money otherwise things become a living hell for the person who doesnt pay up, well thought out and it isnt breaking the EULA untill he takes this OOG so i guess your gunna have to dec him or pay someone else to provide protection... that or pay the man :-P

Solution to your alleged 'harassment':

1. Don't mine AFK or alt-tabbed into Facebook
2. Stay aligned at all times
3. Don't fly what you cannot afford to lose
4. Don't fly ships made of paper and sticks; put a tank on it.
5. Join a PRC for protection
6. Hire mercs for protection
7. Realize that you make so much money that 10mil is a pittance. Suck up your pride and pay the money.
8. Don't 'smacktalk' or do other things to draw attention to yourself which leaves a nice trail of candy for people like this to have a reason to follow you around.
9. Set a trap for them and fight back

Thank you.

I also heard that they have a list of people to outright gank in the future. Like those who petition against them or come to the forums and complain about them. That once on the list they will wait until you get your first hulk or ORCA maybe a POS and then they will come after you, and wardec you and really destroy your ships an goods. Is that breaking the EULA?