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Rawthorm
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Posted - 2005.07.14 17:20:00 -
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Ok since specilization skills only effect the Tech 2 Launchers (something I fail to understand why given if you specilize in something you should be uber with any version of it) what am I gonna be better using?
Im not sure how the stacking goes but the ROF's are as follows:
Caldari Navy Cruise Launcher: 15.4 seconds
Tech II Cruise Launcher: 17.6 seconds
Anyone know what they would both peak at with Missile OP and Rapid Launch to lvl 5, and then the Tech II with the additional Spec bonus's at say lvl 3 and lvl 5?
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Leshrac Shepherd
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Posted - 2005.07.14 18:35:00 -
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Cruise Launcher II with lvl5 Missile Launcher operation, lvl5 Rapid launch and no specialization:
13.464s (That's impossible because you need the skill at least at 1.)
With Specialization at 3: 12.656s
With Specialization at 5: 12.1176s
Caldari Navy Cruise Missile launcher with max skills:
11.781s
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Rawthorm
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Posted - 2005.07.14 22:06:00 -
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 Originally by: Leshrac Shepherd
Cruise Launcher II with lvl5 Missile Launcher operation, lvl5 Rapid launch and no specialization:
13.464s (That's impossible because you need the skill at least at 1.)
With Specialization at 3: 12.656s
With Specialization at 5: 12.1176s
Caldari Navy Cruise Missile launcher with max skills:
11.781s
Cheers. I was fearing that my cruises would become useless against T2 except for fittings.
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Antic
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Posted - 2005.07.14 23:07:00 -
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so the navy version has higher RoF than the tech 2 version with spec skills? another reason to change the spec bonus from RoF to Damage like the turret specs.
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Dimitri Forgroth
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Posted - 2005.07.14 23:13:00 -
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Yeah apart from the fact rof > damage increase. 
1 / 0.75 > 1 * 1.25
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Idara
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Posted - 2005.07.14 23:26:00 -
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Edited by: Idara on 14/07/2005 23:28:04
Boohoo. Notice that missile specialization skills of the larger sizes don't need to waste thier time training through the smaller sizes and specs to L4-5 first?
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Cannedbeef
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Posted - 2005.07.15 00:15:00 -
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Thats because you would need 17 mil in missiles to use cruise spec. Who has 17 mil in Gunnery JUST to use large guns?
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Ortu Konsinni
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Posted - 2005.07.15 00:21:00 -
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Originally by: Rawthorm
Ok since specilization skills only effect the Tech 2 Launchers (something I fail to understand why given if you specilize in something you should be uber with any version of it) what am I gonna be better using?
I guess that's because if the bonus applied to all launchers, there'd be no reason to use the tech2 version since the Arbalest version has the exact same stats with much inferior fitting requirements. Arbalest w/ specialization bonus would then be exactly the same as the tech2 launcher, except a lot easier to fit. Same for all guns.
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Captin Biltmore
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Posted - 2005.07.15 00:29:00 -
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Originally by: Cannedbeef
Thats because you would need 17 mil in missiles to use cruise spec. Who has 17 mil in Gunnery JUST to use large guns?
Ummm....it's not to use JUST large guns....it's to use JUST large t2 guns....same as cruiser spec SHOULD be. yes, you should need rocket spec before light missile spec, before, heavy, before torp, before cruise....just like guns.
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nahtoh
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Posted - 2005.07.15 00:43:00 -
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Originally by: Captin Biltmore
Originally by: Cannedbeef
Thats because you would need 17 mil in missiles to use cruise spec. Who has 17 mil in Gunnery JUST to use large guns?
Ummm....it's not to use JUST large guns....it's to use JUST large t2 guns....same as cruiser spec SHOULD be. yes, you should need rocket spec before light missile spec, before, heavy, before torp, before cruise....just like guns.
How about T2 guns should not have had such a retarded training requirement in the first place...
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2005.07.15 00:53:00 -
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Originally by: Antic
so the navy version has higher RoF than the tech 2 version with spec skills? another reason to change the spec bonus from RoF to Damage like the turret specs.
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Vilserx
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Posted - 2005.07.15 13:01:00 -
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Originally by: Captin Biltmore
Originally by: Cannedbeef
Thats because you would need 17 mil in missiles to use cruise spec. Who has 17 mil in Gunnery JUST to use large guns?
Ummm....it's not to use JUST large guns....it's to use JUST large t2 guns....same as cruiser spec SHOULD be. yes, you should need rocket spec before light missile spec, before, heavy, before torp, before cruise....just like guns.
But we'd need to train 4 skills to lvl5 to get Cruise specialisation...Gunnery users only require 2 to get Large Turret specialisation.
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Sedory Darklight
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Posted - 2005.07.15 13:12:00 -
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Originally by: Vilserx
Originally by: Captin Biltmore
Originally by: Cannedbeef
Thats because you would need 17 mil in missiles to use cruise spec. Who has 17 mil in Gunnery JUST to use large guns?
Ummm....it's not to use JUST large guns....it's to use JUST large t2 guns....same as cruiser spec SHOULD be. yes, you should need rocket spec before light missile spec, before, heavy, before torp, before cruise....just like guns.
But we'd need to train 4 skills to lvl5 to get Cruise specialisation...Gunnery users only require 2 to get Large Turret specialisation.
Check again, Large Autocannon Spec requires: Gunnery V, Motion Prediction V, Large Projectile V, Medium Autocannon Spec IV, Medium Projectile V, Small Autocannon Spec IV, and Small Projectile V...
so, that's four skills req's at lvl 5, and two at lvl 4.
Now lets compare, Cruise Missile Spec requires: Cruise Missiles V, Missile Launcher V, Heavy Missiles 3, Standard Missiles 3..
so, thats two skills req's at lvl 5, and two at lvl 3.
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X'Alor
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Posted - 2005.07.15 20:51:00 -
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Edited by: X''Alor on 15/07/2005 20:52:00
forgetting to add cruise missle reqs
cruise missle 1 reqs torp 4 which reqs heavy so on so on.
and you need cruise missle 5 to get cruise spec 1.
you guys also forgot to factor in RoF bonus of using said launchers on raven with the caldari BS bonus per skill lvl.
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