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Cenzo
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Posted - 2005.07.15 13:02:00 -
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Is logging off in combat considered dishonorable? If so, are there any circumstances in which it should be tolerated, for instance, if an armed frigate attacks an unarmed indie?
Thxbye.
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Verone
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Posted - 2005.07.15 13:06:00 -
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Yes it's dishonorable.
No there are no circumstances where it should be tolerated.
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Brisi
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Posted - 2005.07.15 13:07:00 -
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Logging off in combat is never tolerated, and should never be tolerated. It doesn't matter if you're unarmed or whatever, if you've put yourself in a situation where you can be killed, then you should face the facts and lose your ship.
Logging should be considered an exploit.
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Kerby Lane
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Posted - 2005.07.15 13:12:00 -
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 Originally by: Cenzo
Is logging off in combat considered dishonorable? If so, are there any circumstances in which it should be tolerated, for instance, if an armed frigate attacks an unarmed indie?
Thxbye.
You can log in combat any time you want now tbh 
It a great honor!
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Ikvar
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Posted - 2005.07.15 13:22:00 -
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Logging off to save your pod also sucks.
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Jonkai
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Posted - 2005.07.15 13:27:00 -
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Nothing worse than a pilot logging off to save his pod :(
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Agnesz Nemeth
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Posted - 2005.07.15 13:36:00 -
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Ok, a total newbie here but - when you log off, does your ship instantly disappear? Because in SWG, for example, there is a short timer after "unsafely" logging off (not sitting down and logging off in a "safe" area when the character instantly disappears) during which your character stays in the game world and can be hurt/killed. It does a great job of preventing people from doing stuff like saving themselves by logging off in the middle of combat etc.
From what I'm seeing here, it works quite differently in EVE?
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Gericault m0id
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Posted - 2005.07.15 13:45:00 -
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Don't log in combat. You will wake up in a cloning facility. Try the get the hell away if you can't handle the fight. If your ship is scrambled and you're about to get blown up you can still get away in the pod. Just warp warp warp.
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Kerby Lane
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Posted - 2005.07.15 13:56:00 -
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To save your pod just turn off effects
( Alt + Ctrl + Shift + E and Alt + Ctrl + Shift + T).
Loggin off in combat wont save your ship because of new 30 mins pvp timer.
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ApophisXP
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Posted - 2005.07.15 14:07:00 -
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just had this COE guy log when he lost his ship to me, still got his pod but the logging part kinda takes the fun out too of knowing hes gonna watch his pod go "shplathck" 
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TuRtLe HeAd
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Posted - 2005.07.15 14:18:00 -
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Logging off in Combat is BAD,
As is Sitting on the login screen Awaiting The Word to log in to a tactical advantage. Theres no tactics involved there, its simply an exploit! |
Ikvar
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Posted - 2005.07.15 15:01:00 -
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Originally by: ApophisXP
just had this COE guy log when he lost his ship to me
They do that a lot.
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2005.07.15 15:42:00 -
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Pod doesnt warp anymore.
I personally think logging is the lamest thing going.
It doesnt help the ship or the pod these days either.
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Novakaine
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Posted - 2005.07.15 15:52:00 -
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logging in combat i would say yes its lame ... logging in a safe to avoid combat is personnal choice not to fight so not so lame
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K3NDY
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Posted - 2005.07.15 15:53:00 -
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waiting for the DT to end so u can get in first isnt lame, u can get away from staion and gate camps. i use it to get into 0.0
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Static Ga'lraith
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Posted - 2005.07.15 15:56:00 -
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Originally by: Deja Thoris
Pod doesnt warp anymore.
I personally think logging is the lamest thing going.
It doesnt help the ship or the pod these days either.
Not true, the pod auto warps away if the pilot logged while his ship was going down. However, many people (left understandably incensed) have been known to wait in the area for up to 2 hours waiting for the logger to come back in game, just to catch the pod.
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Garreck
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Posted - 2005.07.15 17:38:00 -
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Logging in combat anymore is now a very good way to lose your ship. With the new timer, yes, your ship will warp to a safespot when you log off (if you're not scrambled) but...the ship stays in space for some time. Long enough to deploy scan probes, relocate the vessel, and dispatch it. Might as well stick out the fight and go down swinging. Maybe take somebody with you and go "damn, lost my ship but it was one hell of a fight."
As for "dishonorable?" Heck yeah, it is. And now you can pay for your dishonor by logging on to a fat insurance-money-filled wallet 
Garreck
Aeternus Crusade
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Cenzo
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Posted - 2005.07.15 18:21:00 -
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Originally by: Garreck
Logging in combat anymore is now a very good way to lose your ship. With the new timer, yes, your ship will warp to a safespot when you log off (if you're not scrambled) but...the ship stays in space for some time. Long enough to deploy scan probes, relocate the vessel, and dispatch it. Might as well stick out the fight and go down swinging. Maybe take somebody with you and go "damn, lost my ship but it was one hell of a fight."
As for "dishonorable?" Heck yeah, it is. And now you can pay for your dishonor by logging on to a fat insurance-money-filled wallet
I hope you were reffering to the proverbial "you" and not me specifically. I do not log in combet. As I was making my routine run searching for carebear miners to ransom, I had several people log off in the heat of slaughter. I was told by said people that this was an acceptable way of doing things. I am checking on the forums to see how others feel about the situation, since I'm a nube and don't really know what's considered acceptable and what's not.
Don't get the wrong impression, bub.
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Moghydin
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Posted - 2005.07.15 18:33:00 -
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In my opinion logging to save combat ship is dishonorable.
Logging to save non-combat ship or pod is not (because when saving pod you're trying to save what can not be insured or taken out before the low sec trip - implants)
Attacking miners and haulers in more dishonorable than logging.
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Digiblast
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Posted - 2005.07.15 18:45:00 -
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Edited by: Digiblast on 15/07/2005 18:45:38
you guys are n00b's
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Drilla
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Posted - 2005.07.15 21:37:00 -
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I like the CELES way of ejecting ships if they are dying.
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Necrologic
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Posted - 2005.07.15 21:45:00 -
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Originally by: Srewolf Bane
Originally by: Necrologic
Originally by: Srewolf Bane
What's the difference between logging off to save your pod from a pirate, or pod warping away just as your ships explodes?
The difference is that if you log, your pod warps instantly. Even if you could lock a pod in .0000001 seconds, you wouldn't get it. If you just warp yourself out, there is a slight delay, and a quick person with a fast lock might catch your pod, or with a smartbomb. Sombody who is payiing attention and knows how can get their pod out pritty much instantly, but with logging ctrl+q becomes a substitute for actual skill and reflexes. By logging out to save your pod, you are basically saying "I am panicking and suck so much that i cannot even rightclick-warp to, so i'm taking the easy way out and cheating."
Ok, fair enough... but I have to admit, if I am flying my wussy Kestral doing missions and an Inty scrambles and attacks me... knowing full well I dont have a chance to win, then I am inclined to log and save my pod at least.
If I were in a better ship I would fight for sure, but I cant help but think anyone who is attacking a MUCH weaker opponant in a tiny ship where most likely there wont even be any loot.. the guy is a greifer, period.
But, if I were flying a hauler full of minerals worth somthing, then ya I can understand attacking, but I can also understand the hauler pilot saying "Well ****, lost my cargo but at least I can get away"
Makes sense to me
I can certainly understand what makes people log out, i did it once 8 or 9 months ago to try to save a bs (the first time i ever got jumped by pirates back in xetic while npcing in 0.0) but i died anyway. At this point, i will A) Feel bad about it if i logged, and B) Lose all respect among my peers, and C) Get booted from my corp. Even if it was just A, i'd rather lose the 10 or 20 mil worth of implants i have, as i see reputation (call it honor if you like) as being everything in this game. Is this the smartest financial descision? Maybe not. But it means more to me to be able to say "I care enough about my reputation in this game that i am willing to sacrfice in game isk and time to preserve it, and will not stoop to a lower level even if so many others do."
So i can't stop you from logging, but more than i see it as being dishonorable, i see it as being disrespectful to yourself. I'm throwing around some big stuff here, and i'm trying to give people an idea of how strong my feelings (and many others) against logging are.
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Srewolf Bane
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Posted - 2005.07.15 21:53:00 -
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Reading this thread, I can see ppl do feel strongly about it.. but, I couldn't help but notice they are all pirates.. coincidence?
Peace
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Necrologic
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Posted - 2005.07.15 22:17:00 -
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Originally by: Srewolf Bane
Reading this thread, I can see ppl do feel strongly about it.. but, I couldn't help but notice they are all pirates.. coincidence?
Peace
We are the ones most effected because people log to avoid piracy the most, it's not a matter of the standard pirate vs carebear vs anti pirate etc stuff.
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Garreck
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Posted - 2005.07.15 23:59:00 -
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Originally by: Cenzo
I hope you were reffering to the proverbial "you" and not me specifically.
Don't get the wrong impression, bub.
Sorry for the ambiguity. It was most certainly meant in the general fashion, not "you" specifically. I tend to make it a bit more plain if I'm aiming a comment at a specific individual, bub.
Garreck
Aeternus Crusade
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Uggster
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Posted - 2005.07.16 02:32:00 -
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Whenever there is a "Log-out" post no one says what a great idea it is and should be done whenever possible.
I find this strange cos loads of people do it whenever possible 
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Wolla
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Posted - 2005.07.16 05:41:00 -
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is logging off in combat a bannable offence??
i allways thought it was, in which case, logging off in combat is dishonerable.
also, if you can't afford to lose the ship/implants, you should either:
1) not have them, or be flying it
2) not enter low sec space where you can be attacked
and in the case of a war, then your screwed, and basically shouldnt have pi*sed off the oposing corp in the first place..
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TuRtLe HeAd
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Posted - 2005.07.16 09:00:00 -
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If a Bus is steaming towards you and about to kill you, you can't log off to avoid it.
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hired goon
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Posted - 2005.07.16 12:20:00 -
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But Eve is just a game. Why should it matter so much if your victim logs off? You won.
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Kerby Lane
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Posted - 2005.07.16 18:01:00 -
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Originally by: hired goon
But Eve is just a game. Why should it matter so much if your victim logs off? You won.
You dont. I can suggest this kind of example:
You are playing chess. Closer to the end you have an advantage but your opponent take the board and throws it in open window.
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