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Captin Biltmore
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Posted - 2005.07.15 22:49:00 -
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OK, I was in a system today. I saw hostiles jump in. I was NPCing, but hadn't killed anything in over 20min (was scooping cans). As soon as the hostiles jumped in I Safe Spotted, Scanned for probes (there were none) and logged out.
Now I thought it was 60sec and my ship would dissapear. Well, I logged back in and low and behold my ship was gone, and all the hostiles were there at my safe spot waiting for my pod. I was NOT enguaged in PVP or PVE before logout, the absolute SHORTEST time for a scan is 60sec....how did they get my ship?
Are the log off timers bugged?
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Blind Fear
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Posted - 2005.07.15 22:50:00 -
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Ironically, I've seen people manage to log out and disappear in under 2 minutes again.
I'd petition/bug report it, but guess what doesnt work. 
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Captin Biltmore
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Posted - 2005.07.15 22:55:00 -
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On top of this I had....get ready....a ****in Rattle Snake BPC in cargo that I had JUST looted.
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Sir JoJo
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Posted - 2005.07.15 23:03:00 -
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what ive heard the timer is bugged at actually first start counting when u log. so u can pvp at 1pm and log at 9pm and still have 15 mins timer what ive been told.
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Captin Biltmore
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Posted - 2005.07.15 23:13:00 -
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That's cool, cause I haven't pvp'd in weeks :)
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Captin Biltmore
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Posted - 2005.07.15 23:15:00 -
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OH....and another good point: When you log your ship automatically warps 1au away and sits there. They got my ship at MY safe spot, the ship NEVER warpped away.
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Ixianus
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Posted - 2005.07.15 23:27:00 -
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Edited by: Ixianus on 15/07/2005 23:27:23 Jees, sorry to hear of your bpc loss, thats a few shiny nickels ay ;).
When petitions work again... petition it :D.
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Crackfarmer
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Posted - 2005.07.15 23:29:00 -
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Edited by: *****farmer on 15/07/2005 23:30:16
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Dave10
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Posted - 2005.07.15 23:34:00 -
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Edited by: Dave10 on 15/07/2005 23:35:06 you need to change system to reset the PvP timer.
However, thanks for the BPC 
Linkage
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Captin Biltmore
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Posted - 2005.07.15 23:35:00 -
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Name: Dave10 Name: Kabalevsky Name: Trass (laid the final blow) Name: *****farmer Name: ChaosHybrid Name: Savaage
It's petitioned....and what was your input *****farmer?
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Captin Biltmore
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Posted - 2005.07.15 23:36:00 -
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Originally by: Dave10 Edited by: Dave10 on 15/07/2005 23:35:06 you need to change system to reset the PvP timer.
However, thanks for the BPC 
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I was never in PVP, therefore the PVP timer doesn't apply, also, my ship never warpped from my safe. All will be restored by CCP.
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Crackfarmer
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Posted - 2005.07.15 23:36:00 -
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Edited by: *****farmer on 15/07/2005 23:39:01 Too retarded to reply sorry.
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Kin'Tarr
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Posted - 2005.07.15 23:47:00 -
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TBh never rely on logging to save your ship, just keep moving around and make sure you have decent safespots, ppl will give up and leave you be. 
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Captin Biltmore
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Posted - 2005.07.15 23:52:00 -
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Bah, it was obviously a bug, u got the ship at my safe, it never warped away. It will be resolved when CCP get's to the petition. Enjoy the BP while u can.
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Dave10
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Posted - 2005.07.15 23:53:00 -
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Edited by: Dave10 on 15/07/2005 23:53:08 did u log off in warp btw?
If you did, the ship wont warp off 
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NeoThermic
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Posted - 2005.07.15 23:55:00 -
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maybe your ship got stuck on the can you were looking at and couldn't warp? ---
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Captin Biltmore
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Posted - 2005.07.15 23:58:00 -
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Edited by: Captin Biltmore on 15/07/2005 23:58:42 Nope, warped to the safe (nothing there) scanned for probes (none in space at 14.7au max scan range) THEN logged out. Ship never left the safe spot. Aint my first PVP rodeo...
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2005.07.16 00:55:00 -
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Er.. I thought the PVE timer was 2 minutes, not 1 minute.
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10 Bears
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Posted - 2005.07.16 00:58:00 -
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After a rather nasty ship loss, I got the idea of when I was dropped, of logging on with an alt character, to knock my other one off line completely...
I had some long log on times when I dropped in 0.0, and it was just good practice to log on as another character, BEFORE even attempting to log on to my main...
CCP did compensate me for the lost..
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Captin Biltmore
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Posted - 2005.07.16 01:06:00 -
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Originally by: Nyphur Er.. I thought the PVE timer was 2 minutes, not 1 minute.
PVE Timer is 2min, but I wasn't enguaged with a NPC for a while (I killed a trailer spawn quite a while before this) and I was picking up a crapload of trit/pye and transporting it to a safe for about 20min.
Reguardless, the ship never left my safe, it should have warped 1au away.
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Altai Saker
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Posted - 2005.07.16 11:13:00 -
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Edited by: Altai Saker on 16/07/2005 11:13:45 I feel sorry for your loss, and I would like the celts side of the story... its certainly interesting that they decided to scan for you out of all the targets they have, even though you should dissappaer just as the scans finish...
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Rehen
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Posted - 2005.07.16 12:01:00 -
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Edited by: Rehen on 16/07/2005 12:01:56 LOL um he shot us then loged qa short time after that = still has the 15 log off thingy active and it only takes us 60 seconds to find your safe and what 30 seconds to kill your defencless ship  . Stop whining we know you lost around 3.5 bill too us but read the patch notes . its not a 1 off and its not some sort of exploit on are behafe, its how the game works at the moment it simuler to teh fact that 1 asalt ship can tank a raven right now, the game changes change with it.
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Galazar
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Posted - 2005.07.16 12:14:00 -
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Whatever happens, you wont be getting that bpc back....
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Azeusus
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Posted - 2005.07.16 12:34:00 -
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these types of things are what really get to people, grabbing a rattlesnake bpc is a major scoop and worth alot of isk to people, having to lose it due to a failing of the game is rubbish and does nothing to boost the game.
I think its time people looked at the impact of saying "we dont replace items lost due to crashes etc", there must be logs proving what he had and didnt have surely.
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Balistic Void
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Posted - 2005.07.16 12:45:00 -
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Originally by: Rehen Edited by: Rehen on 16/07/2005 12:12:55 Altai Saker we arent just after F-E lol we are killing everybody we feel like in the north East and i tell you what theres gold in them hills  
Congrats on the loot :) We want to know how you did it tho. The OP is saying he did everything right to evade you (we all know how easy it is). But nevertheless you nailed him. Did he log at a safe like he said or did he just log in panic at the gate?
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Rehen
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Posted - 2005.07.16 12:47:00 -
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Edited by: Rehen on 16/07/2005 12:46:51 well some people are better at hiding then others
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Galazar
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Posted - 2005.07.16 12:50:00 -
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Yes, but its a case of....you had it, now somone else has it....the gm's aren't fond of taking items from another character, and you can't really put a value limit on what you can and can't be reimbursed.
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Mikelio Raijan
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Posted - 2005.07.16 12:59:00 -
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Edited by: Mikelio Raijan on 16/07/2005 12:59:51 Would be nice if someone could put down a link to how the rules work exactly now... but our covert ops are able to scan in 60 seonds.. maby people arrived at the SS just before your ship disappeared, shot it and so the 15min rule kicked in
Just guessing cause i wasnt there..
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Panzer Faust
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Posted - 2005.07.16 13:00:00 -
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The other day i was npcing with my alt.
Suddently, he got engaged my NPC ceptors that scrambled him, he couldnt gt em so i decided to log him thinking he would disappear... i began counting and 2 minutes after he was still in space (he was scrambled but BY NPCS - does that count as pvp timer?? that would suck!) i had nothing to kill the ceptors fast enough without destroying my alt ship too (smartbomb :/)
so i just watched my alt pop over 5 minutes after i had logged him out. didnt petition this time cuz i thought i couldnt get anything back anyway but sitll, i wonder whats up with the timer, it sure aint reacting as it should be by the patchnotes
Really sorry for your loss it seems that the timer is really buggy or something.. please keep us ifnromed of the answer you'll get
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Chygena
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Posted - 2005.07.16 13:23:00 -
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That kind of bug happening and them not doing something to make up for it is totally unacceptable. Do CCP honestly expect to get away with things like this happening and them not lose players over it?
I cant believe they even let a buggy logout timer get through, I wonder how many people will lose ships and expensive mods/cargo to this.
Best bet is dont get INVOLVED with combat full stop if you think you may have to logout at any point for any reason because this could happen to YOU!
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