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Filiberto
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Posted - 2005.07.21 13:08:00 -
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Quote: And i certainly hope it's at least 1000 pages. 5 hours for a book of 600+ pages that isn't even written in my primary language is too short.
I agree 600 was to short.
my happy ending would be this:
he is way to inexperienced to kill voldermort as of now so he tries to find the hocruxes but somehow gets to a dead end (10 years later) jinny is a capable witch herself now too and helps harry and the bunch to kill voldermort cous she found a clue or something. and they get married.
even though the clues are allready laid out at the end of what the hocruxes are I think it is to unbelieveble that he is strong enough to kill voldermort even though he has the strongest weapon: love.
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Minerva IV
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Posted - 2005.07.21 21:47:00 -
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Just finished it tonight, i so did not see that coming!
Im with whoever said that DD may not be gone, Fawks was mentioned far to much in that book and then did nothing at all apart from sing some song!
I think the last book (or at least the ending of it) will be set at the school thats how it has always been and i think it still will be! If it was to be based in the school Giny can still be there at the start of the book without it being to obvious how big of a part she will play, my guess is the horcruxes will be at the school or at least one of them will be - the sword? It would always be very well protected. What i want to know though is which of the main three charactors they are going to kill off, my money has to be on Ms. Granger, BEFORE her and ron get it on too - that would be evil, although that may be to obvious! but i forsee a lot of death in the final book, it should be very dark!
Am also very curious as to whether Snape is good or evil i think that is very well writen! My guess is he is good but Harry will only find this out as/after he kills him. Also think Malfoy will be playing a big part in the next book, we saw for the first time that hes not as evil as he makes out! Although i think someone needs to turn the other way too - Lupin? make Tonks kill him - oh my i am in an evil mood! Im just upset that another big character wasnt killed off i think that would have set up DD's death to be much more of a shock, as everyone knew one major charactor would die.
Oh and to whoever said its a kids book, it no longer is the first 2 or 3 book really are (although they are still good) but her audiance has now grown up a lot so they are being writen in a very differant way.
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Dred 'Morte
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Posted - 2005.07.21 22:25:00 -
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i read the 3 first books cuz they were small, intresting and i was bored.. but.. now tell me.. in this new book, or in future books, does Harmione and Harry ahh... arr ar.. ???
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Minerva IV
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Posted - 2005.07.22 00:10:00 -
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Originally by: Dred 'Morte i read the 3 first books cuz they were small, intresting and i was bored.. but.. now tell me.. in this new book, or in future books, does Harmione and Harry ahh... arr ar.. ???
no
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Ka Dargo
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Posted - 2005.07.22 03:19:00 -
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Edited by: Ka Dargo on 22/07/2005 03:21:10 Ok first thing.
This book was not as good as the order of the Phoenix (as a whole) the first 2 chapters were good, there was LOTS of filler & the last 100 pages of the book was awesome. I got to about page 500 and went "wtf, when is something going to happen". book needed to be a shed load longer thou.
*SPOILER ALERT & DISCUSSION*
Ok Snape is an evil SOB, and as it been pointed out I think DD was blinded to this for whatever reason. Hence why he got the PWN.
I will be very interested to see who R.A.B. is... but one thing that struck me was that the locket seemed to get switched after the murder.
Agreed that HP does not have the experiance to find the horcruxes, so I think we will see some major involvement from Ron & Hermionie, the DA, & the order & the wheezlies will definetly be involved en mass (all of them).
Can't wait to see SS get the PWN. He may surprise us and be of use to HP now the unbreakable curse has been lifted... but I seriously doubt it. Draco may switch sides, or at least be more interesting that he was in this book.
Oh and the story thread about tonks & lupin in book 6 was lame.. for a while I thought Draco was using Polyjuice potion & pretend to be her.
Now harry being a horcruxes... interesting spin... may turn out that voldemort will realise what going on and forbid anyone to kill harry.
I understand the whole Ginny thing.. I see the romance continuing in the next book. Edit: I think "love" will be used to interesting effect in the next book.
I did like all the Voldemort backstory thou, especially the Slytherin heritage and how it unfolded, gives new perspective on why he hates muggles.
Lots to look forward to anyway, we know the plot outline for the next book. harry becomes vulnerable at home due to "of age" protection being removed from his home. I expect to see death eater squad to come calling. The wedding will be interesting (better be a day ceremony).
Damnit she better start writting the book soon.
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Ka Dargo
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Posted - 2005.07.22 03:23:00 -
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Originally by: Reiisha I had that theory in my mind as soon as they said there were multiple horcruxes. Oddly enough, DD didn't come to this conlusion.
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Filiberto
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Posted - 2005.07.22 07:41:00 -
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Quote: I understand the whole Ginny thing.. I see the romance continuing in the next book.
you got a point there maybe it wil be history repeating itself. voldermort tries to kill Ginny and Harry jumps before them or visa versa and kills voldermort lame ending so it'll probably won't happen. she has more imagination than that.
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FireFoxx80
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Posted - 2005.07.22 09:13:00 -
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What do the initials in the locket mean?
Couldn't Snape just have made one of htose unbreakable vows with Dumbledore or someone, forcing him to protect Harry as much as he is now bound to protect Malcoy?
ex: P-TMC | USAC |
j0sephine
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Posted - 2005.07.22 14:28:00 -
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"What do the initials in the locket mean?"
Saw a theory floating around they stand for Regulus A<whatever> Black, mentioned brother of Sirius who was dealt with after he tried to back out from the whole Death Eater business he'd gotten himself too deep into...
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Gunstar Zero
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Posted - 2005.07.22 20:10:00 -
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Originally by: Ka Dargo Edited by: Ka Dargo on 22/07/2005 03:21:10
Ok Snape is an evil SOB, and as it been pointed out I think DD was blinded to this for whatever reason. Hence why he got the PWN.
I love these forums :)
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superscarface
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Posted - 2005.07.23 23:44:00 -
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I think the best bit for me was the R.A.B mystery...So hopefully someone kick-ass will be able to help Harry, apart from some school kids of course :] But then it did say he would be long dead. bah.
Snapes gonna die! Man the ending made my blood boil...
I can just see Harry turning evil and Ginny bringing him back. >:(
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Robstr
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Posted - 2005.07.24 00:59:00 -
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Edited by: Robstr on 24/07/2005 00:59:54
Originally by: j0sephine "What do the initials in the locket mean?"
Saw a theory floating around they stand for Regulus A<whatever> Black, mentioned brother of Sirius who was dealt with after he tried to back out from the whole Death Eater business he'd gotten himself too deep into...
That makes a whole lot of sence. Good find.
I definently think at the end Harry and Ginny end up together, whatever else happens
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Ka Dargo
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Posted - 2005.07.27 03:55:00 -
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One of my work mates, well manager actually, seems to think that dumbledore is either not dead *fake* or will be reserected.
Now the only way I can see this happening is something funny with Fawkes or via a horcrux...
I just told him to suck it in and get use to him being dead. - Ka Dargo. [ 2005.04.10 14:41:05 ] Your 425mm Railgun II perfectly strikes Dread Pith Massacrer, wrecking for 1271.6 damage.
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Soros
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Posted - 2005.07.28 10:36:00 -
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Edited by: Soros on 28/07/2005 10:37:48 The book r0x0rz, dumbeldore was such a n00b, everyone knows that none of the death eaters are allowed to kill harry so he should have let harry kill malfoy, cause he is such a looser and i know I would just kick his ass in real life.
Harry anoys me at times though . . . . .
I have no idea why harry decided to 'protect' ginny
Finally I would like to lay down my claim to fame,
I have met, alan rickman, he is my math's teachers cousin, he is nice really
-= Soros =-
BoB
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Zaldiri
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Posted - 2005.07.28 18:14:00 -
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Personally I think Harry Potter should be introduced to the pointy end of a pre CWE citidel torp.
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Gail
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Posted - 2005.07.29 07:54:00 -
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A few things to think about,
Why didnt DD potrait speak in the headmasters office?
There was no gloating from Snape when he killed dd (as all ebil people would).
What the f**k happend to dd arm? as we know they can rebuild bones/skins why didnt he just chop the whole lot off, and start again?
oh well untill the next book.....
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Lyra VX
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Posted - 2005.07.30 19:30:00 -
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Oh Snape is SO not evil.
1. Dumbledore is wise before anything else. He has always trusted Snape for reasons that we are yet to discover despite so much evidence going the other way. If Snape is evil, Dumbledore cannot avoid being portrayed as a fool. Thus far, Dumbledore has done nothing even remotely foolish.
2. When Harry and Dumbledore returned from the cave and saw the Dark Mark over Hogwarts, Dumbledore wanted to goto Snape before anyone else. While the initial reaction may be Snape's ability to produce potions (and antidotes?), Slughorn (who would be far less suspicious) would have been at least as good a choice. DD didn't want to get an antidote from Snape, he wanted to discuss the Mark with him.
3. Snape burst in on a gaggle of Death Eaters who have cornered DD. He didn't taunt or jeer in his usual manner. Dumbledore begged Snape to do something, and Snape killed him. DD was "pleading" - there is no way Rowling would have DD pleading for his life. DD was pleading with Snape do kill him so that he could remain undercover by Voldemort's side.
4. When the DEs were trying to kill Harry as he chased Snape and Malfoy, Snape stopped them. The other DEs seemed unaware that Voldemort "wanted Harry for himself", yet Snape gave this as the reason why Harry must not be harmed. Why would the DEs not know this after being sent in to siege Hogwarts? The answer: they didn't and Voldemort gave no such order, Snape was keeping Harry alive.
I don't doubt that Snape hates Harry. Snape's bitter, twisted and generally not a great person, but he's not evil.
<breathe>
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Ka Dargo
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Posted - 2005.08.12 03:31:00 -
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Any more theories, I'm reading it again (2nd time) trying to see if I missed anything. |
Zigy
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Posted - 2005.08.12 07:51:00 -
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Anyone who thinks Snape isn't evil is living the same lie dumbledore lived. DD wasn't God, unfortunately, wise, yes, but not God so he didn't know everything. I'm convinced Snape's just a genuine evil sonofa***** who's used DD's protection to remain safe from having to be a DE and deal with them.
He killed DD. You don't KILL someone as wise and loved as DD unless you genuinely don't care for them. Snape was using DD and didn't genuinely care for him. I remember somewhere at the end of the 4th book someone mentioning people being able to be resurrected. I'm convinced this'll happen just for convenience.
Need I point out Gandalf the White? :) -----------------------------------------------
"Not a shred of evidence exists in favor of the idea that life is serious." -Brendan Gil |
Orvas Dren
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Posted - 2005.08.12 10:15:00 -
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Quote: He killed DD. You don't KILL someone as wise and loved as DD unless you genuinely don't care for them. Snape was using DD and didn't genuinely care for him.
Unless of course you made an Unbreakable Vow with that person requiring you to kill them...
DD is mysterious in his plans and very possible could have seen a purpose to being dead...
Perhaps he wants to go looking for R.A.B. in paintings... who knows. But there is far too much speculation involved to really be of any use... lets wait til the book comes out, then worry about what happens inside its covers. :P --------------------------------
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Decairn
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Posted - 2005.08.12 12:19:00 -
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Harry is a horcrux - it happened inadertantly when Voldemort tried to kill him. Both need to die to kill Voldemort.
Snape is not evil. DD trusted him. Trust DD. The Unbreakable Vow forced Snape into a decision when spotty faced Malroy could not follow through.
The locket initials are for one of the Black family. Expect Kreacher the house-elf to have this scurried away somewhere.
Ron and Hermione will get it on in book 7. Much <3 for Hermione. Much h8 for ****head Ron. Much h8 for Rowling's childish way of writing up romance. --Decairn |
Hakera
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Posted - 2005.08.12 12:46:00 -
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Originally by: Decairn Harry is a horcrux - it happened inadertantly when Voldemort tried to kill him. Both need to die to kill Voldemort.
Whilst I speculated the same thing at the start of this thread, I dont think Rowling will break the happy ending scenario. Though I suppose she could make it an epic, I dont think given the target age group that having their hero die would be a suitable ending. There will be some sort of salvation for Potter methinks.
I still have my doubts about Potter being a horcrux, the fact that he is protected by love (sorta begs of the dragonlance 'everman's sister setting) and until Voldermort got Harrys blood to make him whole I see some sort of ending which involves Harry dying but being reborn or something of a get out clause like that.
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Zyyrus
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Posted - 2005.08.12 13:42:00 -
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just out of curiousity, how old are u all, harry potter was designed for little kids, and ppl with no lives
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2005.08.12 14:42:00 -
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"just out of curiousity, how old are u all, harry potter was designed for little kids, and ppl with no lives"
So was Eve and look, you're here with us all... posting on the internet forum to boot \o/
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Zyyrus
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Posted - 2005.08.13 02:36:00 -
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Edited by: Zyyrus on 13/08/2005 02:36:14 little kids wouldn't last 5 minutes in this game ... if of course they ever left .5 space
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Yith Solarius
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Posted - 2005.08.13 22:05:00 -
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erm... zyyrus shutup already and let the adults have an adult conversation about a book that has far more depth than many books aimed at an 'grown up' audiance.
Go back to griefing nOObs at a 0.4 gate camp and don't bother us again.
thank you bye
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Ka Dargo
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Posted - 2005.08.14 03:51:00 -
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Originally by: Yith Solarius erm... zyyrus shutup already and let the adults have an adult conversation about a book that has far more depth than many books aimed at an 'grown up' audiance.
Go back to griefing nOObs at a 0.4 gate camp and don't bother us again.
thank you bye
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Zyyrus
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Posted - 2005.08.14 03:53:00 -
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Edited by: Zyyrus on 14/08/2005 03:55:19 Edited by: Zyyrus on 14/08/2005 03:53:33 ppl that act half there actual age just annoy me thats all\\
and btw i am a noob in EVE but not real life which is wat alot of ppl need to pay more atention to
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Orvas Dren
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Posted - 2005.08.15 17:39:00 -
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Your spelling skills amaze me...
On topic:
I actually enjoy the youthful romance of these books. It offers a fairly realistic view at mature youth who are beginning to get into those sort of feelings. jide's object explorer The Nest
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