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silver Shazih
Contradictions End Legem Terrae.
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Posted - 2013.02.08 06:47:00 -
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Thanny or chimaera this is for pve so thoughts? |

ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2013.02.08 06:50:00 -
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Thanny. Easier to fit and tank with. More versatile too.
What kind of PvE are you looking at? Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. |

silver Shazih
Contradictions End Legem Terrae.
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Posted - 2013.02.08 06:52:00 -
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Just ratting with it |

ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2013.02.08 07:38:00 -
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Uh huhhhhh...
What system do you intend on ratting in? Maybe I can give you some pointers on how to fit and fly the ship. Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. |

culo duro
Federal Enslavement
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Posted - 2013.02.08 09:34:00 -
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If you have to ask which ship is better, a capital isn't for you tbh.
I'd take the Thanny though because of the DPS increase. Depending on how difficult the rats are, you might wanna consider a chimera, because shield is easier to omni with. |

Oska Rus
Solar Storm Insidious Empire
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Posted - 2013.02.08 10:22:00 -
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Archon imho. Sentry DPS reaches thanny fighter dps and is most used in pvp. |

silver Shazih
Contradictions End Legem Terrae.
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Posted - 2013.02.08 14:13:00 -
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I plan on flying in angel space |

Voi Lutois
Valkyr Industries Violent Tendencies.
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Posted - 2013.02.08 14:57:00 -
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oh dear.... |

Drake Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.02.08 17:04:00 -
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Man I've been wondering the same thing for the same space, I'm going with a chimera cause of angel damage |

Shadowschild
Black Lance Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2013.02.08 18:30:00 -
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silver Shazih wrote:Thanny or chimaera this is for pve so thoughts?
Assuming you have racial carrier at least to 4, I would prefer the thanatos. However, if you plan on soloing the boss stations, from 8/10 or 10/10 plexes, those caldari resists sure look tempting. Remember you have to keep your cap stable to jump out if reds show up. |

sabre906
Old Spice Syndicate Sailors of the Sacred Spice
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Posted - 2013.02.08 20:05:00 -
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If you use fighters, thanny, for the dmg bonus. If you use sentries, chimera does fine. 4x drone dmg mods in the 4 lows, 3-4 omnis, and you've got 3 mids to run shield tank with, not that you'll need much tank. Standings Improvement Service https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19454 |

Shadowschild
Black Lance Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2013.02.08 20:55:00 -
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sabre906 wrote:If you use fighters, thanny, for the dmg bonus. If you use sentries, chimera does fine. 4x drone dmg mods in the 4 lows, 3-4 omnis, and you've got 3 mids to run shield tank with, not that you'll need much tank.
Why the hell do you need more then 3? In fact if your using sentries on a carrier your already fail as you grow used to afking (browsing web, distractions etc). Just don't rat with a carrier. |

Angelique Duchemin
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.02.09 05:35:00 -
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I'll have to agree with the earlier sentiments and recommend the Thanatos. That and it's just over all a fantastic Carrier |

silver Shazih
Contradictions End Legem Terrae.
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Posted - 2013.02.09 21:09:00 -
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ty for the help i can now fly a thanny not good but i can fly one and working on gallente carrier 3 right now are there any skills that would be a must besides the jumping skills |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.02.09 21:14:00 -
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Get an Archon. Plenty of capacitor, great tank. ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8 |

Misaka Todako
Close Proximity
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Posted - 2013.02.09 22:02:00 -
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silver Shazih wrote:ty for the help i can now fly a thanny not good but i can fly one and working on gallente carrier 3 right now are there any skills that would be a must besides the jumping skills
Several capital modules have their own skill reqs. |

sabre906
Old Spice Syndicate Sailors of the Sacred Spice
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Posted - 2013.02.10 00:01:00 -
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Misaka Todako wrote:silver Shazih wrote:ty for the help i can now fly a thanny not good but i can fly one and working on gallente carrier 3 right now are there any skills that would be a must besides the jumping skills Several capital modules have their own skill reqs.
Then you can serve like a peon in ops? Screw that, max out your ratting skills first.
I know ppl who train only archon for the sole reason of avoiding POS rep ops. They're good ppl, just not big on the boot-licking department. Standings Improvement Service https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19454 |

silver Shazih
Contradictions End Legem Terrae.
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Posted - 2013.02.11 02:02:00 -
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oh its going to be just for ratting really unless i get caught ratting but i live in a WH so..... |

Denuo Secus
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Posted - 2013.02.11 04:24:00 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:Thanny. Easier to fit and tank with....
Care to elaborate? I learned Archon and Chimera are the tanky carriers. So how can a Thanny have a better tank? Only thing I could imagine is med slots are needed for other stuff (sebo?) - so a shield tanked Carrier comes out with less tank at the end. But even then the Chimera has an inbuilt resist module which frees up one med slot.
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2013.02.11 04:59:00 -
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Denuo Secus wrote:ShahFluffers wrote:Thanny. Easier to fit and tank with.... Care to elaborate? I learned Archon and Chimera are the tanky carriers. So how can a Thanny have a better tank? Only thing I could imagine is med slots are needed for other stuff (sebo?) - so a shield tanked Carrier comes out with less tank at the end. But even then the Chimera has an inbuilt resist module which frees up one med slot. True... the Chimera has a resist bonus... and shields also have the ability to regenerate over time. But, it is easier to make the Thanatos cap stable and perma-rep even with dual capital reppers. Fitting is also easier too.
One of the things the Chimera would be able to do better than the Thanatos is make better use of the Drone Damage Amps. Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. |

ACE McFACE
Holy Amarrian Battlemonk I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
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Posted - 2013.02.11 07:39:00 -
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culo duro wrote:If you have to ask which ship is better, a capital isn't for you tbh.
I'd take the Thanny though because of the DPS increase. Depending on how difficult the rats are, you might wanna consider a chimera, because shield is easier to omni with. I've never flow a carrier but surely it can easily tank a sanctum DUST514 isn't on PC because CCP wants 2 different communities influencing each other, not people tabbing out to give themselves Orbital Strikes. (Also they don't want to cannibalise their existing playerbase) |

ChaseX
The Executives Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2013.02.11 07:47:00 -
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can't we just fast-forward to the part where your carrier is getting hot-dropt in a belt / anom? |

Valleria Darkmoon
Heretic Army Atrocitas
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Posted - 2013.02.11 09:55:00 -
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What level WH is this first of all, because if you're in one you can actually jump the carrier into directly it's only a matter of time until a C6 dwelling entity finds it and unable to jump out or see anything in local the odds you will get tackled are high. The first scouting ship into a new wormhole is often small, cloaky and never appears in local, he'll find you before you even know he's there.
If you are building it in a low level WH it's stuck there forever pretty much and then see above, it will probably just take longer. (Even if you're WH is something like a C2 that opening will allow many T3 cruisers in before their low mass even starts to destabilize it and they will easily be more than enough to kill a lone thanny)
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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.02.11 12:56:00 -
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Drake Doe wrote:Man I've been wondering the same thing for the same space, I'm going with a chimera cause of angel damage
I've got one Chimy and still learning to fit it properly for solo rating etc, main concern is how many energy mods you need to keep the thing cap stable (atm couldn't find anything decent enough or at least that I like) However in tandem with remote energy transfer seems to be a very nasty thing to take down.
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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.02.11 12:58:00 -
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culo duro wrote:If you have to ask which ship is better, a capital isn't for you tbh.
Yep because the day you started playing Eve you were already an EFT warrior and carrier champion pilot 
This kind of question is perfectly normal, you might want to have different opinions before you pick the one that suits you better.
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Drake Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.02.11 13:18:00 -
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I'm just going with at least one cap rig then fit for a stable cap from there |
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