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Onyx Nyx
Euphoria Released Verge of Collapse
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Posted - 2013.02.11 01:51:00 -
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Rain6639 wrote:wanna meet some real life sociopaths? befriend a surgeon.
Or this guy. I am a dentist. I kill kittens, and puppies and bunnies. I maim toddlers and teens and then more. |
Rain6639
Team Evil
199
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Posted - 2013.02.11 01:52:00 -
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Onyx Nyx wrote:Rain6639 wrote:wanna meet some real life sociopaths? befriend a surgeon. Or this guy. I am a dentist.
hahahahhahahahah THE WORST EDM? you mean EFM |
Phi Crysae
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2013.02.11 02:54:00 -
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Kirjava wrote:Am I to understand that as a live organ donor, you are volunteering your organs while still alive?
I hate to be the dissenting voice here, but have you honestly thought this through? Yea its a selfless act but you could be sabotaging your own life further down the line by doing this. There's kids in China that sell their own organs to buy iPads and crap like that, at the end of the day with a redundant organ missing you are still as ****** as they are.
Also my own personal horror has been cranked up to 13 by what Rain6639 said.
Its funny how many times I've been asked that question. During the application and testing process I have been asked by six doctors/surgeons about whether I've thought it all through, and they are quite blunt about it. One surgeon straight out told me he thinks that anonymous donors are crazy. Or as he put it, "You are taking a hell of a risk and your only guarantee is that you will not come out of it better than you were before going in." He also told me that he dislikes doing the living donor surgery because it goes against the doctors credo of doing no harm.
In a nutshell, by the time you are accepted for the procedure you have been giving every last piece of information about the surgery, how it is done, the physical/social/financial risks and you have been given them multiple times. If I my liver anatomy is compatible for donation then a surgery date is booked after which I will have to see a psychiatrist, more surgeons and social workers/counselors before I am allowed to go ahead with the actual surgery. If at any time one for these people does not think I'm making an informed and non-coerced decision the whole thing it put off.
At the end of the day, for me personally, the risks are acceptable. That doesn't mean that they would be acceptable to anyone else, as I am frequently hearing from friends and family, but to me they are. |
archon o'v
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.02.11 05:22:00 -
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I've head some kid in asia got a kidney removed for an ipad
true story |
Eurydia Vespasian
Nova Insula Mining and Industrial
1028
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Posted - 2013.02.11 06:49:00 -
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Rain6639 wrote:it's true, talk with any medical professionals who work in surgery or trauma wards.
who you know personally, so they'll be more open about the nitty gritty
well i work in surgery...and while i have heard of this, i have never been part of a donor case. my hospital is small and on the very rare occurence that their is a donor a team from lifeline will come in and handle the case themselves. |
Rain6639
Team Evil
201
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Posted - 2013.02.11 07:09:00 -
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that's what I'll tell James Lipton. "What profession would you not like to do?"
"surgeon on a lifeline donor team." EDM? you mean EFM |
Mars Theran
Red Rogue Squadron
1626
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Posted - 2013.02.11 08:44:00 -
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With respect, I generally consider that if someone has wrecked their body, there isn't much point in helping them prolong the suffering. I also like my parts right where they are. Selfish maybe, but they are mine, and, I can pretty near guarantee there is hardly a soul on this Earth that would help me if I needed it.
Most people who need lung, kidney, liver transplants need them for a reason, and it is not because they just happened to have some spontaneous problem that resulted in their need for one. Drinking, Smoking, bad diet, or general complete lack of concern for ones physical health are the most common causes.
For those few who need it as children, without ever having done anything to create that problem on their own, I feel for them. They deserve all the help and assistance they can get. I do try to reserve judgement, but I still would question whether they were deserving, and if they were good and innocent even then.
Reservations. I've seen too many people in a great variety of age groups that were already corrupted and whom I cannot imagine will bring any good to this world. Even children.
That's harsh, I know. Life has taught me to be very skeptical about people and their worth. There are examples enough, (I won't bring them up), that youth doesn't always indicate innocence. I'm sure you know.
So yeah, I have reservations, but I also know there are those that deserve much more out of life, and health, and more, that they don't have. And for them, I should give anything. You can't give everything though, unless you intend to sacrifice yourself and the situation calls for it.
Besides that, I can't afford the consequences. zubzubzubzubzubzubzubzub |
Elias Greyhand
2820
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Posted - 2013.02.11 20:10:00 -
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I've never once heard the words "organ donor" and been inspired, or otherwise, to be one and I never will be.
Too carrion-like for my tastes. "That which is done cannot be undone. But it can be avenged." |
Phi Crysae
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
8
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Posted - 2013.02.15 02:15:00 -
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New Vlog linked in first post. Its an update about the tests and starting to fund raise. The short of it is that I have passed all the tests with flying colours, and in a week I will be talking to the doctors in a final consultation. Hopefully then I will be able to pick a surgery date.
The doctors prefer doing children's transplants where living donors are concerned. Children require a smaller potion of the liver, and the risk to the donor is lessened to a large degree because of this. The recovery is shorter, and the incision is smaller. I have the choice as to whether to donate to an adult or a child. I cannot specify an individual specifically, but I may make a generalized choice. I'm my case, I prefer the idea of donating to a child, but should the need arise I cannot prioritize one life over another, and I cannot ethically refuse my donation to one person in order to hold out for another. In other words, barring an emergency in which an adult requires a liver, I will donate to a child. But should there be an emergency, I'm fine with it going to an adult. |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
7860
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Posted - 2013.02.15 02:19:00 -
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Elias Greyhand wrote:I've never once heard the words "organ donor" and been inspired, or otherwise, to be one and I never will be.
Too carrion-like for my tastes.
The live part is pretty nuts, but I checked the box on my license because I'm a good person, damnit!
I'm dead, what the hell do I care?
Just so long as they get a taxidermist to put me in my bear pose to be put in the living room "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |
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Kirjava
EVE Protection Agency Unclaimed.
571
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Posted - 2013.02.15 03:42:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Elias Greyhand wrote:I've never once heard the words "organ donor" and been inspired, or otherwise, to be one and I never will be.
Too carrion-like for my tastes. The live part is pretty nuts, but I checked the box on my license because I'm a good person, damnit! I'm dead, what the hell do I care? Just so long as they get a taxidermist to put me in my bear pose to be put in the living room Your body might be unconscious writhingin agony as your organs are harvested from your theoretically brain dead legal corpse.
You remember in BSG with the pregnant women on occupied Caprica?.... Yea....
Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007. Cardinal Kirjava - Redeclaring the Crusade in the name of the Goddess since 2012. |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
7911
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Posted - 2013.02.15 16:52:00 -
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Kirjava wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Elias Greyhand wrote:I've never once heard the words "organ donor" and been inspired, or otherwise, to be one and I never will be.
Too carrion-like for my tastes. The live part is pretty nuts, but I checked the box on my license because I'm a good person, damnit! I'm dead, what the hell do I care? Just so long as they get a taxidermist to put me in my bear pose to be put in the living room Your body might be unconscious writhingin agony as your organs are harvested from your theoretically brain dead legal corpse. You remember in BSG with the pregnant women on occupied Caprica?.... Yea....
They use pain killers just in case, no worries "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |
Joran Dravius
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
42
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Posted - 2013.02.16 10:08:00 -
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You can't have my organs. I'm not done destroying them yet. |
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