You aren't getting "free" SP just your total is going up by that amount as they change the general Destroyer and Battle Cruiser skills to racial ones. So don't forget to make sure you update your clone if you need to.

So ends the myth of EVE players being the smartest of the group.

Asssuming you have Destroyers V, BC V and your Cruisers to III you will be getting around 6+ mil SP.

What are you going to be dropping it on?

JDC V for my main
Capital Ships V for my alt
Marauders V for my other alt

So ends the myth of EVE players being the smartest of the group.

http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=74234

"However, we will not adjust clone level if the refund causes your total skill points to go above your current clone capacity. If you have Destroyer and Battlecruiser 5 trained, you should account for approximately 6.2 additional million skill points"

So if I have Destroyers V and BC V after the change the 6.2 mil SP will go into your available skill points correct? You wont just automatically get the racial varients maxed out and left with nothing to distribute?

So ends the myth of EVE players being the smartest of the group.

http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=74234

"However, we will not adjust clone level if the refund causes your total skill points to go above your current clone capacity. If you have Destroyer and Battlecruiser 5 trained, you should account for approximately 6.2 additional million skill points"

So if I have Destroyers V and BC V after the change the 6.2 mil SP will go into your available skill points correct? You wont just automatically get the racial varients maxed out and left with nothing to distribute?

http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=74234

"However, we will not adjust clone level if the refund causes your total skill points to go above your current clone capacity. If you have Destroyer and Battlecruiser 5 trained, you should account for approximately 6.2 additional million skill points"

So if I have Destroyers V and BC V after the change the 6.2 mil SP will go into your available skill points correct? You wont just automatically get the racial varients maxed out and left with nothing to distribute?

I think your estimate is off a bit.

However, I'll be putting it into HIC V and probing skills.

I think your estimate is off a bit.

However, I'll be putting it into HIC V and probing skills.

If, for some odd reason, you have Destroyers and/or Battlecruisers skills, but have no Racial Frigate/Cruiser 3 at all, then the skill points will be moved in the free allocation pool when the old skills are removed.

*Throws himself in a windy pit, his right arm cut by a lightsaber*

Noooooooooooooo it doesn't work that waaaaayyyy

You only get skill points in your allocation pool if you have the Destroyers / Battlecruisers skill, but nothing in the Frigates / Cruiser skills. Otherwise we'll just duplicate the skills, you don't get to spend anything.


From the blog:

• Removal and refund of all Destroyers and Battlecruisers skill books at the NPC order price.
• Partial skill training will be properly be saved and duplicated. If you are halfway between Destroyers 3 and 4 when the change hits, your progress will be properly copied to all the racial Destroyer skills you are eligible for.
• If, for some odd reason, you have Destroyers and/or Battlecruisers skills, but have no Racial Frigate/Cruiser 3 at all, then the skill points will be moved in the free allocation pool when the old skills are removed.
• Skill queues having Destroyer and/or Battlecruiser in-training will be paused at the time of the change. If you expect to be away for a long time when the reimbursement hits, please make sure you donGÇÖt train either of these skills.

*goes back into his dark corner, then starts raving and drooling like a lunatic*

So if I have Destroyers V and BC V after the change the 6.2 mil SP will go into your available skill points correct?

You wont just automatically get the racial varients maxed out and left with nothing to distribute?

why are you still trying to explain it?

office betting pool, he put money on having to explain it fifty times

skill changes seem to cause a lot of confusion though, moreso than other changes. i think it's just a topic that's generally harder to grasp

office betting pool, he put money on having to explain it fifty times

skill changes seem to cause a lot of confusion though, moreso than other changes. i think it's just a topic that's generally harder to grasp

Am I missing something? I am able to fly a command ship right now, but I do not have the warfare skills to 5. Under the "if you could fly it before...." rule, does that mean I will be given the appropriate skills points to raise those warfare skills to 5? I would like to know so I can plan accordingly.

NVM the above. Question was answered. The prereqs are only required if you haven't injected the skillbook yet.

Asssuming you have Destroyers V, BC V and your Cruisers to III you will be getting around 6+ mil SP.

What are you going to be dropping it on?

*Throws himself in a windy pit, his right arm cut by a lightsaber*

Noooooooooooooo it doesn't work that waaaaayyyy

You only get skill points in your allocation pool if you have the Destroyers / Battlecruisers skill, but nothing in the Frigates / Cruiser skills. Otherwise we'll just duplicate the skills, you don't get to spend anything.


From the blog:

• Removal and refund of all Destroyers and Battlecruisers skill books at the NPC order price.
• Partial skill training will be properly be saved and duplicated. If you are halfway between Destroyers 3 and 4 when the change hits, your progress will be properly copied to all the racial Destroyer skills you are eligible for.
• If, for some odd reason, you have Destroyers and/or Battlecruisers skills, but have no Racial Frigate/Cruiser 3 at all, then the skill points will be moved in the free allocation pool when the old skills are removed.
• Skill queues having Destroyer and/or Battlecruiser in-training will be paused at the time of the change. If you expect to be away for a long time when the reimbursement hits, please make sure you donGÇÖt train either of these skills.

*goes back into his dark corner, then starts raving and drooling like a lunatic*

A monkey in a cowboy suit!

Perhaps the use of the word reimbursement in the devblog wasnt ideal ... perhaps change the heading for. What this means for YOU directly!

I will spend it on Reading 5 on my main.

Apparently each level causes a 10% reduction in jumping to conclusions.

Have you started drinking heavily yet? Oh wait, CCP developer.... nvm.

*Throws himself in a windy pit, his right arm cut by a lightsaber*

Noooooooooooooo it doesn't work that waaaaayyyy

You only get skill points in your allocation pool if you have the Destroyers / Battlecruisers skill, but nothing in the Frigates / Cruiser skills. Otherwise we'll just duplicate the skills, you don't get to spend anything.


From the blog:

• Removal and refund of all Destroyers and Battlecruisers skill books at the NPC order price.
• Partial skill training will be properly be saved and duplicated. If you are halfway between Destroyers 3 and 4 when the change hits, your progress will be properly copied to all the racial Destroyer skills you are eligible for.
• If, for some odd reason, you have Destroyers and/or Battlecruisers skills, but have no Racial Frigate/Cruiser 3 at all, then the skill points will be moved in the free allocation pool when the old skills are removed.
• Skill queues having Destroyer and/or Battlecruiser in-training will be paused at the time of the change. If you expect to be away for a long time when the reimbursement hits, please make sure you donGÇÖt train either of these skills.

*goes back into his dark corner, then starts raving and drooling like a lunatic*

I will spend it on Reading 5 on my main.

Apparently each level causes a 10% reduction in jumping to conclusions.

Asssuming you have Destroyers V, BC V and your Cruisers to III you will be getting around 6+ mil SP.

What are you going to be dropping it on?

JDC V for my main
Capital Ships V for my alt
Marauders V for my other alt

I have read the thread and fully understood what has been said here.

One question though. Now that it has been mentioned and everybody wants some ... when do we get freely spendable skill points again?

The next time:
A) They remove a skill and don't replace it with an equitable skill (a la Learning Skills).
B) The hamsters go on strike for 16 hours with no explanation (happened following an expansion update once to my recollection).

No, that is why we get them. I am asking when!

A & B indicate why. The line directly above is an indication of when.

Feel free to read it as "We will get more free spendable skill points when either A or B happens again."

No, that is why we get them. I am asking when!

The next time:
A) They remove a skill and don't replace it with an equitable skill (a la Learning Skills).
B) The hamsters go on strike for 16 hours with no explanation (happened following an expansion update once to my recollection).

Have to admit, OP troll was successful. 8/10

I really don't think.

So when is it?

The second Thursday of next week.

Dude why you be trolling?

This may not be the worst thread in history, but it can definitely see it from where its sitting.

Am I missing something? I am able to fly a command ship right now, but I do not have the warfare skills to 5. Under the "if you could fly it before...." rule, does that mean I will be given the appropriate skills points to raise those warfare skills to 5? I would like to know so I can plan accordingly.

However, unless I am mistaken, if you have a skill injected (in this case, Command Ships) but you don't have the NEW prerequisites trained (some Leadership skills to V, in this case), you will be able to fly the ship all the same, but you won't be able to train the skill further.

So, you have Command Ships IV but you lack the prerequisites once the changes take place > you won't be able to queue Command Ships V.

Actually they've announced they are changing that.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2583413#post2583413

So when is it?

Colonel Sandurz: Try here. Stop.
Dark Helmet: What the hell am I looking at? When does this happen in the movie?
Colonel Sandurz: Now. You're looking at now, sir. Everything that happens now, is happening now.
Dark Helmet: What happened to then?
Colonel Sandurz: We passed then.
Dark Helmet: When?
Colonel Sandurz: Just now. We're at now now.
Dark Helmet: Go back to then.
Colonel Sandurz: When?
Dark Helmet: Now.
Colonel Sandurz: Now?
Dark Helmet: Now.
Colonel Sandurz: I can't.
Dark Helmet: Why?
Colonel Sandurz: We missed it.
Dark Helmet: When?
Colonel Sandurz: Just now.
Dark Helmet: When will then be now?
Colonel Sandurz: Soon.
Dark Helmet: How soon?

So ends the myth of EVE players being the smartest of the group.

That bubble popped for me the other day when I shot a dual deadspace active tanked imperial navy slicer with miners in the highs.

Yes, he should have asked people what to fit, or visited battleclinic.

Smart people never by trial and error.

It's not reimbursement, it's hello kitty free SP to vets players. Sad. All accounts just unsub. All potential new player has to be advertised.. :s

Sorry4mypoorenglish!

What are you even whining about?

I dont get it

It was EvE, not hello kity online.
Fist it's stupid, skill change for diversity, but now all old players will have all racial skills at V.. great diversity isn't it ? New player will have to wait more years to be competitive, strange for "PvP game".