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Douglas Rafferty
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Posted - 2005.07.21 04:48:00 -
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Ok everytime we get a new ship class there is always a monster till ccp kills the fun with the nerf gun. Which dread will be the monster?
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Zaintiraris
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Posted - 2005.07.21 04:53:00 -
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*Sigh* Prolly the Moros. Dunno much about Naglfar, but since its smallest guns are way huger than 1400mms, I think it'll prolly be Moros with a cloud of Berserker IIs. ---
Originally by: CCP Hammer This game was so much better back before people knew math.
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bundy bear
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Posted - 2005.07.21 05:26:00 -
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The gallente one looks awesome. Will like to see how the extra large blasters go against BS and the 40 drones would probably smash anything smaller.
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W0lverine
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Posted - 2005.07.21 05:53:00 -
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Originally by: bundy bear The gallente one looks awesome. Will like to see how the extra large blasters go against BS and the 40 drones would probably smash anything smaller.
35 drones
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Zungen
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Posted - 2005.07.21 06:03:00 -
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think he meant it could hold 40 drones and not use that many at once
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Sadist
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Posted - 2005.07.21 06:17:00 -
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Nerf guns dont kill blob lag *cough* 35 drones *cough* ---------------
Originally by: Dark Shikari "One Trit to rule them all, One Trit to find them, One Trit to bring them all, and in the veldspar bind them"
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Meridius
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Posted - 2005.07.21 06:20:00 -
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Edited by: Meridius on 21/07/2005 06:22:30 Moros.
Supposedly it's slightly worse then the others at killing POS but it absolutely will *****anything smaller then itself via drone swarmage.
Cruisers and frigs are pretty much banned from approaching this thing
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W0lverine
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Posted - 2005.07.21 06:42:00 -
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Originally by: Meridius Edited by: Meridius on 21/07/2005 06:22:30 Moros.
Supposedly it's slightly worse then the others at killing POS but it absolutely will *****anything smaller then itself via drone swarmage.
Cruisers and frigs are pretty much banned from approaching this thing
BS's also, 35 ogres II do like 1000DPS....
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Der Ewige
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Posted - 2005.07.21 06:48:00 -
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But then again if you know you have to face a Gallente Dread you would probably bring some nice shiny large smart bombes.
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.07.21 06:52:00 -
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not sure if you'll have time to activate those smartbombs.... the blasters on the moros will make short work of any BS :P leave the drones for the friggies and cruisers :P
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Ice Foxy
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Posted - 2005.07.21 10:17:00 -
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Originally by: SengH not sure if you'll have time to activate those smartbombs.... the blasters on the moros will make short work of any BS :P leave the drones for the friggies and cruisers :P
Drones and blasters are very short range, im sure a Amarr dread with beams will do respectable damage out of the moros's range. I wouldnt like to tackle one close up without a smart bomb.
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Kaeten
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Posted - 2005.07.21 10:18:00 -
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Originally by: Zaintiraris *Sigh* Prolly the Moros. Dunno much about Naglfar, but since its smallest guns are way huger than 1400mms, I think it'll prolly be Moros with a cloud of Berserker IIs.
beserkers? lol
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Kaeten
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Posted - 2005.07.21 10:19:00 -
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Originally by: Ice Foxy
Originally by: SengH not sure if you'll have time to activate those smartbombs.... the blasters on the moros will make short work of any BS :P leave the drones for the friggies and cruisers :P
Drones and blasters are very short range, im sure a Amarr dread with beams will do respectable damage out of the moros's range. I wouldnt like to tackle one close up without a smart bomb.
smartie frig ftw? 
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Dred 'Morte
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Posted - 2005.07.21 10:29:00 -
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Edited by: Dred ''Morte on 21/07/2005 10:33:47 Edited by: Dred ''Morte on 21/07/2005 10:29:40
You guys will laugh but in a fight betwen my apoc and a Moros, none would win
why? i bring 2 large smarties (or more if i know ill face a Moros), activate my tank, moros launches drones, and soon as my shield is down and my armor is rapidly disapearing i activate both large smarties, booom, ALL DRONES DISAPEAR... and then i can tank the moros damage 
(btw, i have like 65% resistence to kinetic/thermal and a 115 armor/sec repair so a moros would need like 350 base damage per second to beat me, but because her guns would miss often i think... you can increase that to like 500 damage per second... So you see... 
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Ortu Konsinni
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Posted - 2005.07.21 10:32:00 -
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I don't think your armor will be "rapidly disappearing". Think "vaporized instantly". Not from the drones, but the Moros' guns.
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Dred 'Morte
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Posted - 2005.07.21 10:35:00 -
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o com'on you dont really believe in that right? their guns MISS OFTEN for what i have heard... besides i have 4 or 5 thousand armor... not even a moros does that much damage right away, not even before resistance!
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W0lverine
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Posted - 2005.07.21 10:37:00 -
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Originally by: Dred 'Morte o com'on you dont really believe in that right? their guns MISS OFTEN for what i have heard... besides i have 4 or 5 thousand armor... not even a moros does that much damage right away, not even before resistance!

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Ortu Konsinni
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Posted - 2005.07.21 10:38:00 -
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Originally by: Dred 'Morte o com'on you dont really believe in that right? their guns MISS OFTEN for what i have heard... besides i have 4 or 5 thousand armor... not even a moros does that much damage right away, not even before resistance!
I've seen dreads (not the Moros, admittedly) do ~7000 damage on a "hits you lightly for xxx damage" type of hit, so... yeah, I do believe what I'm saying. Yes, their turrets don't track too well, but your 4000-5000 armor is... well, ridiculous against a dreadnought.
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DarkMatters
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Posted - 2005.07.21 10:44:00 -
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the amarr's reverlation is going to be the best at its job, taking down POS.
no ammo, all cargo space to fuel for siege mode and able to fit the best tank with 8 low slots.
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Spying Alt
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Posted - 2005.07.21 11:13:00 -
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For anything smaller than its self i think the caldri one will be the worst since its citadel trops can do nothing to anything smaller than a dread however i recon it will probably be the best against a pos as vs large targets it can do insane damage over time.
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Jubeli
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Posted - 2005.07.21 11:18:00 -
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The Moros is a beast! And a ship that can mine faster then the Covetor just have to be the best ship 
Seriously, in Siege Mode the Dreads will all wtfpwn4tw any BS out there. You can tank as much as you want, if you aren't 10 BSs then you will die. Add to that that you'll need some support cruisers to help you live aswell..
The Moros got the advantage of the drones though. Sad to see the Gallente win again.  -
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Idara
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Posted - 2005.07.21 11:48:00 -
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Originally by: Jubeli The Moros is a beast! And a ship that can mine faster then the Covetor just have to be the best ship 
Seriously, in Siege Mode the Dreads will all wtfpwn4tw any BS out there. You can tank as much as you want, if you aren't 10 BSs then you will die. Add to that that you'll need some support cruisers to help you live aswell..
The Moros got the advantage of the drones though. Sad to see the Gallente win again. 
AFAIK Dreads can't attack BS's when in siege mode, only POS's.
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Jubeli
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Posted - 2005.07.21 12:14:00 -
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What? That needs to have some testing.
I was so sure you could attack other ships when in Siege Mode, why wouldn't you? You get -100% in speed but boost like hell in the rest. -
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Selak Zorander
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Posted - 2005.07.21 12:17:00 -
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Dreads can attack BS in siege mod... The problem is, if the BS is moveing (even without an afterburner) the dread will almost never hit the BS. If the BS stands still, its toast.
As for getting a dread down in siege mode, it will take several BS (last test on I was in on test server took 20 to 30 BS to start to overcome the tank on one dread which I think was an armor tanked moros though it may have been a revelation).
When they can repair 15000+ HP in less than 15 seconds (over 1000HP/sec) it takes bit to get one down. The one i saw was repairing around 1/2 of its armor each cycle of the repairer(s).
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MrRookie
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Posted - 2005.07.21 12:28:00 -
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Its becase of the tracking penalty. You wont be able to hitt a BS. Ofc you can alway bring a frig with some webbers :) _____________________________________________
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LordChaos
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Posted - 2005.07.21 12:32:00 -
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Revalation 4tW
Amarr Rule :) lol
hehehehe
/me counts how long it will take him to get it 1.2.3.4.10.30.60.80............. lost count
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Jubeli
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Posted - 2005.07.21 13:00:00 -
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Is that weeks or months you are counting :P
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Aneskha
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Posted - 2005.07.21 13:12:00 -
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Originally by: Ortu Konsinni
Originally by: Dred 'Morte o com'on you dont really believe in that right? their guns MISS OFTEN for what i have heard... besides i have 4 or 5 thousand armor... not even a moros does that much damage right away, not even before resistance!
I've seen dreads (not the Moros, admittedly) do ~7000 damage on a "hits you lightly for xxx damage" type of hit, so... yeah, I do believe what I'm saying. Yes, their turrets don't track too well, but your 4000-5000 armor is... well, ridiculous against a dreadnought.
You may not know it, but the siege mod of a Dread boost a lot it's tank and firepower, but also decrease dramatically it's tracking capacity, meaning that every BS pilot more active than a three-day corpse will have more than enough transversal speed to evade it's fire. Without that siege mod, the dread's firpower is only slightly superior to the one of a semi-gank BS.
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Tisti
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Posted - 2005.07.21 13:22:00 -
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CCP said that dreads will recive a number of boost with time, so they won't be overpowered. So im guessing almost none are getting any heavy nerfs:)
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Lagar
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Posted - 2005.07.21 14:08:00 -
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in my opinion each dread have their own advantage.. altho.. curently i dont think highly of the caldari one.. Altho the amarr one is ok (simply cause of it's cheep ammo cost and relativly good armor tanking potential)
The Galante one cause it need less escort cause of it's drone fleet (no further explenation needed)
And The minmatar one.. Why also the minmatar one? well cause it can hold the biggest amount of XL guns of the four, (2 turret slots and 2 missile slots) that will make it potentionaly make the most damage overall against POS
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