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Scooter McCabe
SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.01 05:20:00 -
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MrDiao wrote:+1 Vote
Giving null-sec more high-sec characteristics, and more null-sec characteristics for high-sec
Its not about making null sec more safe or Hi Sec unsafe. Its about making making Hi Sec pay for its safety which thematically any government would. There is a toll to be paid here that isn't. I could be for something like if you have Hi Standings you get a faster Concord response if someone tries to gank you but if that ganker has a hi standing then you get a normal response. Now if your ganker has hi standings and you don't then Concord or the local police are a little slower to help you.
The point is from the above example you have to earn your safety. Missions and standings matter for everyone again just like they should have from the start.
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Scooter McCabe
SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation
158
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Posted - 2013.03.01 05:23:00 -
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Ser Butte wrote: So by this do you mean if I had a high Amarr standing 7.0+ and decided to murder some random dude I should be able to pay a fee with a standings hit to not get concorded? Or perhaps I can bribe the Amarr government to let me have my way with a highsec system?
It would mean that you get a pass but you're standings take a hit so you have to go out and run more missions before you can gank away for free. I could also see your group having to pay "kickback" money to your government as something in place of taxes because you are engaged in an irregular economic activity.
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Ser Butte
Hole Exploitation Inc.
1
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Posted - 2013.03.01 05:27:00 -
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Scooter McCabe wrote:Ser Butte wrote: So by this do you mean if I had a high Amarr standing 7.0+ and decided to murder some random dude I should be able to pay a fee with a standings hit to not get concorded? Or perhaps I can bribe the Amarr government to let me have my way with a highsec system?
It would mean that you get a pass but you're standings take a hit so you have to go out and run more missions before you can gank away for free. I could also see your group having to pay "kickback" money to your government as something in place of taxes because you are engaged in an irregular economic activity.
I agree but perhaps it can be less of a faction hit depending on the offense and more of an LP/isk cost. This requires the criminals to do work for the NPC empires and that the NPC empires get their pound of flesh while the criminal can continue to make highsec a wonderful place. The best analogy I can give is that, an empire can easily condone vandalism (destroying structrures) and assault (destroying ships) but they can't condone murder (podding). Perhaps for podding there will be a faction hit but for the others a heavy isk and LP cost? It would give another use for the bill system, upon commission of the crime a bill is issued that accrues interest and has a deadline to be paid. As long as it's paid the criminals can keep acting, if it isn't paid they take a faction hit and become suspect in that faction's space. |

Scooter McCabe
SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation
158
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Posted - 2013.03.01 05:38:00 -
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Ser Butte wrote:
I agree but perhaps it can be less of a faction hit depending on the offense and more of an LP/isk cost. This requires the criminals to do work for the NPC empires and that the NPC empires get their pound of flesh while the criminal can continue to make highsec a wonderful place. The best analogy I can give is that, an empire can easily condone vandalism (destroying structrures) and assault (destroying ships) but they can't condone murder (podding). Perhaps for podding there will be a faction hit but for the others a heavy isk and LP cost? It would give another use for the bill system, upon commission of the crime a bill is issued that accrues interest and has a deadline to be paid. As long as it's paid the criminals can keep acting, if it isn't paid they take a faction hit and become suspect in that faction's space.
Well lets say CCP wants to stay with its core concept that ganking gets a Concord response then lets say your faction standing doesn't take a hit. Again I am not a game designer by any means but I can point you in the right thematic direction any day of the week. As for your analogy it brought me back to my favorite movie The Godfather when Michael Corleone goes to the Italian Diner to shoot the corrupt cop and the gangster that tried to whack his father.
If you haven't seen the movie in the scene just before the family Concigleri or adviser warns of the repercussions despite their political connections. They could do it but they would get leaned on hard for it. So in our game perhaps Concord does come after you for blowing someone but your standings and Isk get used to have that Concord take a lunch break and pay for it in larger bills than reasonable. Sure you will have the law come down on you but you got to go full bore as a criminal who used his Ace in the hole to make things happen. Now it should require you effort and Isk to use that Ace in the hole and you have to go back around earning the Isk and standings to use your Ace in the hole again. |

Ser Butte
Hole Exploitation Inc.
1
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Posted - 2013.03.01 06:00:00 -
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Scooter McCabe wrote:Ser Butte wrote:
I agree but perhaps it can be less of a faction hit depending on the offense and more of an LP/isk cost. This requires the criminals to do work for the NPC empires and that the NPC empires get their pound of flesh while the criminal can continue to make highsec a wonderful place. The best analogy I can give is that, an empire can easily condone vandalism (destroying structrures) and assault (destroying ships) but they can't condone murder (podding). Perhaps for podding there will be a faction hit but for the others a heavy isk and LP cost? It would give another use for the bill system, upon commission of the crime a bill is issued that accrues interest and has a deadline to be paid. As long as it's paid the criminals can keep acting, if it isn't paid they take a faction hit and become suspect in that faction's space.
Well lets say CCP wants to stay with its core concept that ganking gets a Concord response then lets say your faction standing doesn't take a hit. Again I am not a game designer by any means but I can point you in the right thematic direction any day of the week. As for your analogy it brought me back to my favorite movie The Godfather when Michael Corleone goes to the Italian Diner to shoot the corrupt cop and the gangster that tried to whack his father. If you haven't seen the movie in the scene just before the family Concigleri or adviser warns of the repercussions despite their political connections. They could do it but they would get leaned on hard for it. So in our game perhaps Concord does come after you for blowing someone but your standings and Isk get used to have that Concord take a lunch break and pay for it in larger bills than reasonable. Sure you will have the law come down on you but you got to go full bore as a criminal who used his Ace in the hole to make things happen. Now it should require you effort and Isk to use that Ace in the hole and you have to go back around earning the Isk and standings to use your Ace in the hole again.
How about a mix up so that if you bribe concord, they will do nothing but that wouldn't prevent players from enforcing the law? I think until we get more ways to grind up faction that a faction standing hit is too high unless its a podding, an LP/isk cost though and perhaps a specific corporation standing would be fine for the lower stuff.
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Scooter McCabe
SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation
160
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Posted - 2013.03.02 05:34:00 -
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On The Campaign Trail.
While I wait to hear back about my time slot for EVE Radio with the always Scottish Xander Phoena I will be spreading the good word in Akonoinen. Its a 0.5 system that is just God's country here in New Eden so bring a mining ship down and gather around for some stump speeches.
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PUrple Guy
The 0rigin Illusion of Solitude
0
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Posted - 2013.03.02 07:16:00 -
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As long as you support fixing the ****** up POS management system that CCP seems to be neglecting then im all for you in CSM |

Scooter McCabe
SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation
160
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Posted - 2013.03.02 09:36:00 -
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Read this: Hi Sec Rising
EVE is being made worse due and its not going to be some Hi Sec apologist that turns things around. |

Kainotomiu Ronuken
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
933
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Posted - 2013.03.02 10:25:00 -
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Scooter McCabe wrote:Read this: Hi Sec RisingEVE is being made worse due and its not going to be some Hi Sec apologist that turns things around. Wait so are you saying that we should vote for James 315? I thought this was your own CSM thread? You have become the pubbie, Mittani. Yours is the temple whose technetium-clad tables are at risk of being overthrown, whose seats need mixing. You're the one who fears war. -- Sadleric
Vote James 315 for CSM 8! |

Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
1722
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Posted - 2013.03.02 12:38:00 -
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Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:Scooter McCabe wrote:Read this: Hi Sec RisingEVE is being made worse due and its not going to be some Hi Sec apologist that turns things around. Wait so are you saying that we should vote for James 315? I thought this was your own CSM thread? Now come on....No one could be that insane. EvE players have no voice. Just don't bother voting for the CSM, really its not worth the energy.
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Scooter McCabe
SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation
161
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Posted - 2013.03.02 16:47:00 -
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Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:Scooter McCabe wrote:Read this: Hi Sec RisingEVE is being made worse due and its not going to be some Hi Sec apologist that turns things around. Wait so are you saying that we should vote for James 315? I thought this was your own CSM thread?
I certainly encourage you to vote for me but I also think that when his article describes certain problems with Hi Sec it also deals with thematic problems in the game that CCP needs to correct. Also with the SSTV system CCP is putting in place for the new election system I would encourage you to vote for me first and him second. That way once I hit the threshold your votes go to the next candidate that will most likely be an ally to me on the CSM.
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Poetic Stanziel
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
1797
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Posted - 2013.03.07 21:24:00 -
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What is your stance on AFK skill training? Amarr Militia - Fweddit - http://fweddit.com Poetic Discourse - http://poeticstanziel.blogspot.com |
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