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Amorex
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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:55:00 -
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Well the question is in topic's subject. Anyone can explain this nonsenc? From what time it's become like this?
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2003.07.18 12:02:00 -
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It's always been like this.
NPC pirate loot can be sold through black markets and you need agents for that (not to mention the black market isn't completely done)
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.07.18 12:05:00 -
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I'd love to help, but I'm not sure I understand the question. I didn't think NPC pirate could ever be considered a players.
Explain the situation, it might make it a bit clearer.
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2003.07.18 12:06:00 -
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He means (I think) 'Why can't NPC loot be sold on the Market?'
:)
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.07.18 12:08:00 -
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"Well the question is in topic's subject. Anyone can explain this nonsenc? From what time it's become like this?"
It's been since claiming some territory for exclusive use was considered a valid practice.
Think of it in real terms -- if you want to hunt some animals in another country, you can do that only if the government of that country lets you in, and you'll typically need to obtain hunting license as well. The NPC pirates are very much like those animals you hunt for the trophies (loot).
"He means (I think) 'Why can't NPC loot be sold on the Market?'"
No, considering another thread i think he asks, "Why can't i come to Stain region and shoot NPC pirates whenever i please"...
Edited by: j0sephine on 18/07/2003 12:09:33
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Amorex
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Posted - 2003.07.18 12:16:00 -
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Hm...I gues I need more english lessons.
Well I'll try one more time.
It is not about selling loot on market. It's about hunting NPC pirates IN there OWN SAPCE ( Sanchas Nation ), I think you know where it is. It's sound redicules that I must ask permition to hunt them from a player, or a group of players, to hunt Sanchas pirates. I undertand when it is about minerals and roids. But do not understand when it's about NPC Pirates hunt. If they are guarding Sanchas's then they must be have standings with Amarr Empire as Sanchas have ( Enemys of the state ). Or there is a mark on there ship saying - "To kill this pirate you must ask permition from ME" or like this "To kill this pirate you must ask permition from TUMBA-UMBA corp". Does this sound right?
Edited by: Amorex on 18/07/2003 12:16:50
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Chai N'Dorr
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Posted - 2003.07.18 12:19:00 -
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Well, making people "pay" to kill pirates makes as much sense as kicking people out of Venal, or blockading a system, or cornering a market with fake buy orders.
Things are yours in this game until someone else proves differently or packs a bigger gun.
Edited by: Chai N'Dorr on 18/07/2003 12:19:33
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2003.07.18 12:21:00 -
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Ahhhh, sorry, my bad
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Amorex
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Posted - 2003.07.18 12:32:00 -
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Chai N'Dorr, some time ago in beta the dev's where asked about claiming some porion of space that belong to NPC faction or Empire, and dev's answered. Tha if your copr want to claim some space that belong to NPC faction you must defeat there forces and after that that space will be yours.
So does they defeat Sanchas Nation forces? Where is anonsment from GM's or Polaris team that Stain Reagoin was lost by Sanchas Nation to XXX corp, and now this corp has all right on this region.
Edited by: Amorex on 18/07/2003 12:32:27
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Gurenus
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Posted - 2003.07.18 12:37:00 -
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Amorex, please don't discuss this topic. Let consuls work a bit. You just making situation worse.
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.07.18 12:43:00 -
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I don't think 'ownership' of a system or region is implemented yet, but it is intended.
Until then, whoever has the biggest army technically 'owns' the region. But not in any official sense.
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Aileea
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Posted - 2003.07.18 12:47:00 -
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Gurenus, may I ask you who is in command of your armed forces?
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Gurenus
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Posted - 2003.07.18 12:53:00 -
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<<Gurenus, may I ask you who is in command of your armed forces?>>
Sory I can't, this is secret information.
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Endyl
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Posted - 2003.07.18 12:59:00 -
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Amorex,
I think this is not a question of game rules or game mechanics.
It's mostly does you have the need, will, strenght and organisation to lock down a region in space, and assume the conflicts and problems that come along with it ?
Let's say I am a CEO with a strong force of 50 battleships, and I decide that a rock floating in space is mine, and anyone who approach it is going to be fired upon.
As long I can hold the position, nobody is going to get a shot at that rock, and if nobody is able to destroy my fleet, nobody is going to change my rule.
This is a good thing, because as it is almost happening here, such territorial control rise anyway problems, since when you shoot "anonymous_guy_00" you are ****ing people and corps, and one day or another, the backfire is coming for XXXXX possible reasons.
Territorial control will be imho the biggest reason of wars between corps, I don't believe that market control will be one reason to open a war, for me the theory where 2 corps with the same rare blueprint entering a war to control the market is pure nonsense, but territorial control is prolly what is going to create the major conflicts in this game.
And this can be done without any game mechanic or even a rule wroten in the Licence Agreement, it's just the law of the strong and the determination of the people willing the own a territory who count.
Edited by: Endyl on 18/07/2003 13:00:14
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Rust
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Posted - 2003.07.18 14:48:00 -
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An interesting Political and Philosophical question. Do we indeed own anything in this game or rl?
Do you own the roid you are mining? I assume you agreed that you do not. Do you own the minerals from that roid in the cc next to you? Well of course not - you don't own the roid so how can you own the minerals from it, nor should you be upset if someone takes them.
Or do you argue that you worked for the minerals and thus they now belong to you? If so we have worked hard to defend, conserve, and utilise a system, including the pirates.
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Riddari
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Posted - 2003.07.18 15:06:00 -
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Erm.. yes you work for the ore that your mining lasers extracted.
How did you work for making Sansha pirates spawn? Did you assemble their ships?
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Aileea
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Posted - 2003.07.18 15:25:00 -
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In unregulated space one owns what he lays claim to - until somebody with bigger guns shows up. If you're unhappy about that, stay in Concord space.
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