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Sky Hunter	Posted - 2005.07.28 15:25:00 - [1] Thought about something like this for solo: 4x 250 II, 1x Dont know yet 1x 20k Disruptor, 1x Web 1x Small Armor Rep II, 1x Kinetic Hardener, 1x Explosive Hardener, 1x Nanofiber\1x Cap Power Relay Will this fit and work any good against anything frig-type ships? Also, what performes better in solo/small group Jaguar or Wolf? -=-
Summersnow	Posted - 2005.07.28 15:35:00 - [2] I'm assuming PVP based on the disruptor? maybe a vampire in the 5th high slot or rocket launcher for defenders to help against long range missle sniping. possibly also armor plating to boost hp, if you go with the vamp you might be able to ditch the cap relay. Also, how do you intend to get close enough to anything or hold it long enough to kill it with no ab? I web you, hit AB, get outside jam and bye bye. My Wolf's tank is as good or better then yours but I'm using scout 250's for another 2 weeks till I skillup or scout 280's if they fit with Weap upgr III.
Sky Hunter	Posted - 2005.07.28 15:43:00 - [3] Is there any use to have Autocannons instead of Artys? Oh, and yes im asking about pvp setup. However the 2 med slots, will lead to me either wont be able to scramble opponent, or not able to web him and therefore if hes in inty he will get away for sure. -=-
Lord Aradon	Posted - 2005.07.28 15:45:00 - [4] arent auto's for close range and standard artys for long range? like blasters/rails? -------------------------------- Free websites
Ras Blumin	Posted - 2005.07.28 15:54:00 - [5] I'd do either 200's/ab/web/plate/tank or Arty Gank Setup with a Co-Pro to make it all fit. p - l - u - r
Spuki	Posted - 2005.07.28 15:58:00 - [6] The only wolfes im afraid of are the ones with 4x280mm, damage mods, tracking computer and sensor booster. Its captable of killing a interceptor with one volley. Of course, if someone manages to get within close range youre pretty much dead.
Profess0r Mansechs0r	Posted - 2005.07.28 16:21:00 - [7] dont use 250s, they are terrible.
Sarmaul	Posted - 2005.07.28 16:46:00 - [8] Originally by: Ras Blumin Originally by: Sky Hunter Is there any use to have Autocannons instead of Artys? Maybe if you're fighting something bigger and slower than you. Or a t1 Close-Range Frig. A AC wolf will prolly loose aginst most other T2 Frigs. Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong. Ask what AF most ceptor pilots fear the most and 9 times out of 10 is a fully ganked 200mm Wolf. Originally by: Celador Nane juggernaut torpedo hits you knocking ur can of fanta over
Sky Hunter	Posted - 2005.07.28 16:54:00 - [9] Originally by: Profess0r Mansechs0r dont use 250s, they are terrible. Doesnt they have better tracking? i.e. tracking fills the less dmg they do? -=-
R31D	Posted - 2005.07.28 17:25:00 - [10] I think DrunkenOne did a post a month or so ago that proved that 75mm Gatling Railgun did more DPS than 250mm Artillery Free bumpage for all
Ras Blumin	Posted - 2005.07.28 17:30:00 - [11] Originally by: R31D I think DrunkenOne did a post a month or so ago that proved that 75mm Gatling Railgun did more DPS than 250mm Artillery I belive it was the 125mm Gatling AC. p - l - u - r
DrunkenOne	Posted - 2005.07.28 17:40:00 - [12] Edited by: DrunkenOne on 28/07/2005 17:41:12 Originally by: R31D I think DrunkenOne did a post a month or so ago that proved that 75mm Gatling Railgun did more DPS than 250mm Artillery 75 II = 1.8 damage mod 2.6 sec RoF =~.6923dps 250 II = 4.8 damage mod 8.5 sec RoF =~.565dps 250 IIs w/ ship bonus (25% to damage)= 6 damage mod 8.5 sec RoF =~.706dps 75 mm gatling IIs, the worst small hybrid, basically do the same damage (~2% less) with 0 bonuses as 250 IIs do with a 25% damage bonus. If that doesn't prove projectiles suck I don't know what does... Originally by: Sochin CCP has provided you with the tools you need to avoid crime. You're just too lazy/stupid to use them.
Sky Hunter	Posted - 2005.07.28 17:53:00 - [13] Might as well add that there are such skills as Rapid Firing? Oh and btw, maxed projectiles skills do insane amount of dmg. -=-
Phelan Lore	Posted - 2005.07.28 20:56:00 - [14] Originally by: DrunkenOne Edited by: DrunkenOne on 28/07/2005 17:41:12 Originally by: R31D I think DrunkenOne did a post a month or so ago that proved that 75mm Gatling Railgun did more DPS than 250mm Artillery 75 II = 1.8 damage mod 2.6 sec RoF =~.6923dps 250 II = 4.8 damage mod 8.5 sec RoF =~.565dps 250 IIs w/ ship bonus (25% to damage)= 6 damage mod 8.5 sec RoF =~.706dps 75 mm gatling IIs, the worst small hybrid, basically do the same damage (~2% less) with 0 bonuses as 250 IIs do with a 25% damage bonus. If that doesn't prove projectiles suck I don't know what does... Yes, but... since all skills in eve are percentage based, the higher the base damage and base speed a weapon has the greater effect skills will have on them. I'm not arguing that artillary has horrible DPS, just... how much of an effect will skills have on this?
MineallMine	Posted - 2005.07.28 21:25:00 - [15] Skills affect dps the same for each weapon. So no matter what the skill level the 75mm will out dps the 250mm. The 250 will have much better volley damge and much much better range. On a Wolf, If the 75mm is using AM I'd bet you'd give a very comprable damage from a 200mm up to ~9-10km and anythin under the 200 km is much better. On that same wolf anything over ~12 km a 250 with emp out performs a 75mm with AM. But that said, the wolf is a terible 1vs1 ship. It is too slow to get away with 2 mid-slots. pair it with a tacker however ....
Phelan Lore	Posted - 2005.07.28 22:09:00 - [16] Wouldn't say .25 boost to speed have a much greater effect on a gun that fires once every 6 seconds than one that fires every 2 seconds? and likewise for damage +.25 to a weapon with a 6x multiplier than +.25 to a weapon with a 2x modifier? I haven't played this game for very long, so I can't say from experience, but logically that is how I would see it working.
Bruchpilot	Posted - 2005.07.29 02:14:00 - [17] Edited by: Bruchpilot on 29/07/2005 02:18:04 250mm suck as much as 650mm and 1200mm. If you fit for longrange there is no way arround fitting 280mm imo. But since we got 400mm plate intys killing AFs easily nowadays I'd suggest to fit ACs anyway, or just buy a Claw. Does the job even better. Don't say the Wolf is a bad 1on1 ship. Before everyone and his pet were running arround with plates/shortrange I used to win any 1on1 or even 2on1 in my Wolf. It does scary damage to other AFs while it can tank moderate.
R31D	Posted - 2005.07.29 12:06:00 - [18] Originally by: Bruchpilot Edited by: Bruchpilot on 29/07/2005 02:18:04 250mm suck as much as 650mm and 1200mm. If you fit for longrange there is no way arround fitting 280mm imo. But since we got 400mm plate intys killing AFs easily nowadays I'd suggest to fit ACs anyway, or just buy a Claw. Does the job even better. Don't say the Wolf is a bad 1on1 ship. Before everyone and his pet were running arround with plates/shortrange I used to win any 1on1 or even 2on1 in my Wolf. It does scary damage to other AFs while it can tank moderate. Yeah, my Wolf is setup pretty much the same as the plated Claw setup everyone's using Free bumpage for all
Ras Blumin	Posted - 2005.07.30 14:00:00 - [19] Originally by: R31D Originally by: Bruchpilot Edited by: Bruchpilot on 29/07/2005 02:18:04 250mm suck as much as 650mm and 1200mm. If you fit for longrange there is no way arround fitting 280mm imo. But since we got 400mm plate intys killing AFs easily nowadays I'd suggest to fit ACs anyway, or just buy a Claw. Does the job even better. Don't say the Wolf is a bad 1on1 ship. Before everyone and his pet were running arround with plates/shortrange I used to win any 1on1 or even 2on1 in my Wolf. It does scary damage to other AFs while it can tank moderate. Yeah, my Wolf is setup pretty much the same as the plated Claw setup everyone's using After reading the replies, I actually tried fitting a wolf like that. I'm getting 1392 armor with a 400mm nano plate :) .. With 2 membranes, my lowest resistance is explo with just below 50%. The problem with this setup is, that almost any T2 frig with long-range guns and a disruptor (and a very little amount of pvp skill) will kill you :( p - l - u - r
Autumnleaves	Posted - 2005.07.30 14:47:00 - [20] Edited by: Autumnleaves on 30/07/2005 14:48:38 Originally by: Bruchpilot Edited by: Bruchpilot on 29/07/2005 02:18:04 250mm suck as much as 650mm and 1200mm. If you fit for longrange there is no way arround fitting 280mm imo. Problem with this is the requirements on the 280's. I can fit 4 250's and still have grid & cpu for rockets, web, AB, rep II, 2 resist plates & ( gyro or armor plate ). I have the relevant CPU/Grid skills at V, Weap upgr to V and adv weap to III. I have maybe 15 cpu and 3 grid left. Unless theres a skill to decrease the AB grid use from 10 it won't work. * yeah could substitute a grid mod maybe for the gyro or armor but then anything that can do kinetic/explosive rapes me or I do less damage :-p
R31D	Posted - 2005.07.30 15:57:00 - [21] Originally by: Ras Blumin Originally by: R31D Originally by: Bruchpilot Edited by: Bruchpilot on 29/07/2005 02:18:04 250mm suck as much as 650mm and 1200mm. If you fit for longrange there is no way arround fitting 280mm imo. But since we got 400mm plate intys killing AFs easily nowadays I'd suggest to fit ACs anyway, or just buy a Claw. Does the job even better. Don't say the Wolf is a bad 1on1 ship. Before everyone and his pet were running arround with plates/shortrange I used to win any 1on1 or even 2on1 in my Wolf. It does scary damage to other AFs while it can tank moderate. Yeah, my Wolf is setup pretty much the same as the plated Claw setup everyone's using After reading the replies, I actually tried fitting a wolf like that. I'm getting 1392 armor with a 400mm nano plate :) .. With 2 membranes, my lowest resistance is explo with just below 50%. The problem with this setup is, that almost any T2 frig with long-range guns and a disruptor (and a very little amount of pvp skill) will kill you :( Luckily, your tank is good enough that they won't be able to kill you off. Only AF's/bigger ships can do enough damage at long range to really kill you, but your faster than them so it's not too big a problem Free bumpage for all

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