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Graelyn	Posted - 2005.08.17 22:55:00 - [91] Quote: And the winner is.... Good god man, how many recyclables do you have? Get your ex-corp members to support you in here, I'm sure they will. (tip for the future: when posting with alts, adopt a different writing style to disguise it somewhat. Consistent and obvious things like having all of your alts posting thier last sentences in bold is just sloppy...) Quote: People, For the sake of whatever Deity you belive in, get the fire extinguishers out and stop the flamewar, you all look like idiots with all this *****ing. You're right of course. It's just a bit of a shock to be told you have been 'utterly decimated' in a six-day war by some fellow hiding in Viziam who has surrendered a war to you. Not your average Amarrian Loyalist.... CEO - The Aeternus Crusade
Trevedian	Posted - 2005.08.17 22:57:00 - [92] Originally by: Franx People, For the sake of whatever Deity you belive in, get the fire extinguishers out and stop the flamewar, you all look like idiots with all this *****ing. Bog is dead, I podded him... Sex0r > you're bounty turns me on.. you seem like the kind of amarrian to dominate me
Trevedian	Posted - 2005.08.17 23:00:00 - [93] Edited by: Trevedian on 17/08/2005 23:01:30 U guys are seriously thick.. no one surrended to anyone... Aegis Militia got pwned, and Smegheads Inc. moved on... Originally by: Garreck Originally by: Electra Euri Post how many Battleships, Frigates, Pods, etc. u killed here and lets get this settled. A fair question. I'll see to it that accurate kills and losses are posted. I don't have the numbers off the top of my head, but during the declared war, I'm fairly certain Aegis Militia claimed 3 or 4 Smeg battleships for the loss of 1. Trevedian's protestations aside, he was unable to field an effectual fleet against the Militia. We chased his forces around for a week, killing targets that were too slow or too stupid, and the war was abandoned, the bill not paid. That speaks for itself, really. As for exact numbers...we'll see what we can come up with... Where are those numbers you promised Garreck? Was that another lie too? STOP MAKING EXCUSES! Sex0r > you're bounty turns me on.. you seem like the kind of amarrian to dominate me
FooB2	Posted - 2005.08.17 23:16:00 - [94] im even getting sick of the same thing ebing said over and over again.... POST THE KILLMAILS. _______________________________________________ Inferno Torpedo I belonging to Celestial Angel hits you, doing 99.0 damage.
FooB2	Posted - 2005.08.17 23:27:00 - [95] Edited by: FooB2 on 17/08/2005 23:27:41 EDIT accidental doublepost
Graelyn	Posted - 2005.08.17 23:30:00 - [96] Edited by: Graelyn on 17/08/2005 23:30:36 War start: 2/7/107 Losses to Smegheads Inc. : Apocalypse (Darth Revenant) Osprey (Jonathan Wark) Bestower (Me!) Prophecy (Mirial) Scorpion (MS Wagner) Omen (Bastables) Vengeance (Solique) Rifter (Valerius Morai) Capsule (Mirial) Oddities - 1 missing Amarrian Golden Wyverns loss [Improper entry] Kills on Smegheads Inc. : Crow (FooB2) Shuttle! (n1ghtmar3) Tempest (Axzor) Malediction (Kalathmir) Maller (Kalathmir) Megathron (spRAYed) Maller (Kalathmir) Blackbird (Kalathmir) Armageddon (Trevidian) Capsule (Kalathmir) Capsule (SpRAYed) Oddities - Unknown faction ship kill (Roba) [killboard does not recognise ship] 6/7/107 "The war between Aegis Militia and Smegheads Inc. is coming to an end. Smegheads Inc. has surrendered to Aegis Militia." I was way off, it was a FOUR day war. I feel silly. There it is. Still waiting for your wardec. (Edit: mispelled Smegheads) Not your average Amarrian Loyalist.... CEO - The Aeternus Crusade
Garreck	Posted - 2005.08.17 23:38:00 - [97] Originally by: Trevedian Originally by: Garreck As for exact numbers...we'll see what we can come up with... Where are those numbers you promised Garreck? Was that another lie too? STOP MAKING EXCUSES! Hardly a promise. My apologies, Master Graelyn, but this...scum...has rubbed me the wrong way. These are my personal kills. My personal preferences about not posting killmails be damned. I'll not stand here and have my integrity questioned. 2005.07.04 18:39:00 Victim: Axzor Alliance: Unknown Corporation: Smegheads Inc. Destroyed Type: Tempest Solar System: Myyhera System Security Level: 0.5 Involved parties: Name: Garreck (laid the final blow) Security Status: -0.6 Alliance: Aegis Militia Corporation: The Aeternus Crusade Ship Type: Megathron Weapon Type: 425mm Railgun II 2005.07.05 00:25:00 Victim: spRAYed Alliance: Unknown Corporation: Smegheads Inc. Destroyed Type: Megathron Solar System: Myyhera System Security Level: 0.5 Involved parties: Name: Garreck (laid the final blow) Security Status: -0.6 Alliance: Aegis Militia Corporation: The Aeternus Crusade Ship Type: Megathron Weapon Type: 425mm 'Scout' I Accelerator Cannon 2005.07.05 00:22:00 Victim: Kalathmir Alliance: Unknown Corporation: Smegheads Inc. Destroyed Type: Maller Solar System: Sasiekko System Security Level: 0.5 Involved parties: Name: Garreck (laid the final blow) Security Status: -0.6 Alliance: Aegis Militia Corporation: The Aeternus Crusade Ship Type: Megathron Weapon Type: 425mm Railgun II These were not solo: the tempest kill took place in a fleet action. We had an Armageddon, a Scorpion, and a Megathron. Smegg were packing a tempest and 2 'Throns. We traded the scorp for the Tempest. The Megathron kill, I had tackler help. My thanks to Aphox and Solique. Same with the maller. Garreck Aeternus Crusade Aku. Soku. Zan.
Jonathan Wark	Posted - 2005.08.17 23:57:00 - [98] You see no one listens to me at all. This was never a contest of who got how many kills. I posted those kills to show that Trevedian lied when he said we never engaged his people and that we hid in stations. Trevedian you are clearly a liar your kill against Jonathan was while he was in an Osprey with mining lasers before the war dec was even official, and so were two more of your kills, an industrial and the barge. ThatÆs the one where concord took your ship. The battleship kills you boast of were also before the war dec and during an event. Once we went to war you were out gunned and out fought itÆs as simple as that. I recall only one battle where you acquitted yourselves with any competency other than you had nothing. Again just a word of advice, next time donÆt say someone wouldnÆt fight, and then when confronted by proof that we did, bring up all your ôVictoriesö in battle. It makes you look like the fool you are. (Major Highjack of this thread) Quote of the day. - JonathanÆs pod is faster than mine.
Darth Revanant	Posted - 2005.08.18 00:14:00 - [99] I hate when things get to this point as we've obviously derailed this thread and it's degenerated into a flamewar. However, 3/4 of all those kills are pre war dec. Most of them were during an event where we didn't know SMEG was hostile and our sole purpose was to kill Blood Raiders that were in 5 Baahlgorns with our 5 ships. The others were in hi sec space pre war where we lost one cruiser, one bs (mine, and my only loss in the war), and one indy to trev's suicide t2 gankgeddon. During the actual war, we sustained less losses than we caused. Now I suggest this be locked due to being clearly OOC and flamed to hell. _________________
Trevedian	Posted - 2005.08.18 00:14:00 - [100] Originally by: Graelyn Edited by: Graelyn on 17/08/2005 23:30:36 War start: 2/7/107 Losses to Smegheads Inc. : Apocalypse (Darth Revenant) Osprey (Jonathan Wark) Bestower (Me!) Prophecy (Mirial) Scorpion (MS Wagner) Omen (Bastables) Vengeance (Solique) Rifter (Valerius Morai) Capsule (Mirial) Oddities - 1 missing Amarrian Golden Wyverns loss [Improper entry] Kills on Smegheads Inc. : Crow (FooB2) Shuttle! (n1ghtmar3) Tempest (Axzor) Malediction (Kalathmir) Maller (Kalathmir) Megathron (spRAYed) Maller (Kalathmir) Blackbird (Kalathmir) Armageddon (Trevidian) Capsule (Kalathmir) Capsule (SpRAYed) Oddities - Unknown faction ship kill (Roba) [killboard does not recognise ship] 6/7/107 "The war between Aegis Militia and Smegheads Inc. is coming to an end. Smegheads Inc. has surrendered to Aegis Militia." I was way off, it was a FOUR day war. I feel silly. There it is. Still waiting for your wardec. (Edit: mispelled Smegheads) Just as I figured, people are not reporting their losses, Bastables died 4 times, you only have 1 ship loss listed etc. Aegis Militia + Amarria Auxila killed 3 Battleships 3 Cruisers 2 Intrceptors/Frigates 1 Shuttle 2 Pods Smegheads Inc. killed 7 Battleships 1 Battlecruiser 7 Cruisers 5 Interceptors/Frigates 2 Industrials 1 Mining Barge (Petri Tlie'Laxu) deleted mail and 3 Pods. So can you guys add/subtract? How do you figure you won the war? Because we left after harassing you for a week? It cost 50 mil a weak to war dec ur paltry alliance, and there are plenty of inexperienced corps out there that we could fight for alot less than paying 50 mil a week. So are you saying that the rest of our killmails on you guys were not authentic? I certainly seems like you guys lost alot more... Just because we didn't keep up the war forever doesn't mean you guys won... Simple arithmetic demonstrates that you guys lost. Are you really as stupid/paranoid as you guys are acting? Graelyn do you really think we made up all those killmails? In any case let this drop, its really old news. 1) You guys lost alot more ships than Smegheads Inc. did 2) Smegheads retracted the war or forgot to pay the bill depending on which version Graelyn is discussing at the time because it was only meant to last a week. No one surrendered, no matter what a auto sent mail from concord says. 3) I still have no respect for you guys because I have witnessed firsthand how petty and weak you guys are... Enuf said, get the last word in you RP forum *s that can't fight, I gotta sleep. Sex0r > you're bounty turns me on.. you seem like the kind of amarrian to dominate me
Graelyn	Posted - 2005.08.18 00:18:00 - [101] Still waiting for your Wardec..... Not your average Amarrian Loyalist.... CEO - The Aeternus Crusade
Garreck	Posted - 2005.08.18 00:34:00 - [102] Originally by: Trevedian So can you guys add/subtract? How do you figure you won the war? Because we left after harassing you for a week? No. Because in the war, we caused more damage to you than you did to us. Pretty simple, really. Garreck Aeternus Crusade Aku. Soku. Zan.
Electra Euri	Posted - 2005.08.18 02:01:00 - [103] Originally by: Garreck Originally by: Trevedian So can you guys add/subtract? How do you figure you won the war? Because we left after harassing you for a week? No. Because in the war, we caused more damage to you than you did to us. Pretty simple, really. Erm if Smegheads Inc. killed more of you, especially big ships, like battleships and so on, how did Aegis Militia cause more damage? Sorry to keep naggin' but some of these posts just seem like contradictions heeped atop other contradictions. Now Sellin Blackbird Cruisers
Garreck	Posted - 2005.08.18 02:21:00 - [104] Originally by: Electra Euri Erm if Smegheads Inc. killed more of you, especially big ships, like battleships and so on, how did Aegis Militia cause more damage? There are no contradictions. Go back and read the thread. 5 battleship losses took place before there was a war. They were an act of piracy during a massive battle against Blood Raider forces. In a previous and equally futile thread after the engagement, the Militia more or less told Smeg that they'd not hand us such a loss in an out-and-out war, particularly since we wouldn't be dealing with multiple faction battleships at the same time. Smegheads declares war, either to carry out some sort of contract, or to prove their point. Things don't go quite the way they had planned. They take out a mining-kitted apoc and a combat fitted scorp for the loss of a combat 'geddon, tempest, and megathron. Furthermore, another 'geddon is lost to concord in the "battle" in which our mining apoc was lost. Yes, they can claim more kills on our pilots. No, they didn't manhandle us by any means during the war. Quite the opposite, to be honest. Garreck Aeternus Crusade Aku. Soku. Zan.
Lord Artemis	Posted - 2005.08.18 02:30:00 - [105] Trev, you have been weighed and you have been measured. Discontinue your efforts to smear our reputation to boost your pathetic one. The only thing we await now is your avatar to update from an NPC corp title. Hiding and ranting mean nothing. ___________________________ Aegis Militia Conclave official representative
Aphoxema G	Posted - 2005.08.18 03:33:00 - [106] Well, if'n we're gon'na start postin' our killmails, I'm gon'na hop on'na bandwagon with'a personal favourite'a mine... Originally by: Killmail, plus renamed "Unknown" to "Purifier" 2005.07.07 05:07:00 Victim: Roba Corporation: Smegheads Inc. Destroyed Type: Purifier Solar System: Myyhera System Security Level: 0.5 Involved parties: Name: Aphoxema G (laid the final blow) Security Status: 0.4 Corporation: Ubiqua Seraph Ship Type: Claw Weapon Type: 150mm Light AutoCannon II Name: Riya OniSenshi Security Status: 0.3 Corporation: The Aeternus Crusade Ship Type: Raptor Weapon Type: Unknown It's Getting Close to That Hour...
Graelyn	Posted - 2005.08.18 03:57:00 - [107] That's what that was! I was a bit confused at the killboard's inability to classify the ship. Not your average Amarrian Loyalist.... CEO - The Aeternus Crusade
Lord Artemis	Posted - 2005.08.18 05:18:00 - [108] Because kill boards are only as good as the individuals that input the mails, I think it is pointless to even consider anything put here as a indisputable fact. Our killboard is probably as accurate as most, there are descrepancies to any if you look hard enough, and are usually minor at best. Let us instead look at exactly what we have that can be seen as proof to the outcome of the events. Smegma corporation is no more. Did they disband because they were a successful corp and were kicking ass? hmm not good business. AM received surrender confirmation from Smegma. WE HAVE NEVER SURRENDERED TO ANY WARDEC. To do so is an admission of defeat. If and when we ever did surrender it certainly won't be to you. The blood raiders packed up and moved out of bleak lands because of us. I guess the reason is we mined all their ore Every corp you have bragged about being a part of has crumbled and disbanded while you were a member. Aegis Militia is still active and successful. Not many of our members still remember your 4 day war. Which btw negates your claim of a week long contract. Your entire flow of arguments stink of inconsistences and attempts at misdirection. Sorry this simply won't fool anyone. When your in a non-NPC corp let us know. ___________________________ Aegis Militia Conclave official representative
Gaven Lok'ri	Posted - 2005.08.18 06:13:00 - [109] Trevedian here is the one who tried to convince the world that his destruction of 5 AM battleships somehow made the battle agaisnt the blood raiders a defeat for Amarr. Somehow the loss of 30,000 or so Amarran paramilitaries (6k per ship)outwieghed the loss of literally a hundred thousand blood raiders (Non pod fleet, + 4 bhaalgorns, a collection of cruisers and a battlestation) in a battle that forced the blood raiders to leave Amarran space space entirely qualifies as a victory against Amarr. I just havent quite figured it out yet. I would say it is perfectly safe to utterly ignore this lunatic. God is with us.
Pulgor	Posted - 2005.08.18 06:25:00 - [110] Well said. Our objectives were indeed accomplished in this mission. As for the Smegheads war. They were under the misguided belief that they could retake the region from the blood raiders, or maybe their CEO had too much X-Instinct that night. Reguardless of whatever it was they were doing, 4 days later they were gone and gods light now shines in the bleaklands. Not seeing a positive angle for the Smegheads in this. ----------------------------------- UQS Battleminer. Get you the hot lasers of gank omen to die!
Lord Artemis	Posted - 2005.08.18 08:10:00 - [111] Once I had heard the news of Trevidians ramblings I sent an investigative force of Marines to several stations in throughout the Bleak lands and Myyhera. The captain in charge sent an interesting report to my office. The following is an excerpt from that report: "Lord Artemis, I am sorry to report that we were unable to locate the objective target. Source in the stations we checked last sighted him running thru the station passageways screaming at the top of his lungs and ranting unintelligible words. I was able to gain access to the quarters he was residing in during his stay. The quarters were undisturbed since departure due to an ongoing investigation by the Amarr Navy. The nature of the investigation is unknown at this time but my contacts hinted at contraband being trafficked illegally. The quarters at first sight had the most disagreeable odor to it and looked as if the vacuum seal on the outer window had at one time been breeched. We discovered several empty bottle of spirits, half empty bottles of blue pills, and hundreds of broken vials and cartridges containing a white powdery substance. Many holoreels containing what appear to be the subjects own personal diary. All these items were quickly sent to Dr. Teranika Phenyo for analysis. Her skills in psychology may be able to tell us quite a bit more about the madman Trevidian." Dr. Teranika Phenyo's analysis: "M'Lord, Of the evidence and items brought to me for study. This person is severely addicted to illegal substances. Tho I did not have time to fully analyze the entirety of the videos and memos I have found several that have given me an incite to the mind of this person. The following is a brief summary of the specific letters and videos that allowed me to come to my conclusions. -in most of the videos the person seems extremely inebriated and often breaks down into a child-like crying fit. He blames his mother for his current state, due to being ignored during her time in a Gallante Pleasure Hub. He went on to explain that she would be gone for many days and he would be alone by himself to stew in his own emotions. -confessional letter stating that his only reason for trying to pass as Jamyl's lover was an ill-fated attempt at fame and popularity, he realized afterward he should have chosen a lesser boast as this one seemed to easily de-bunked -As for the letters in his journal concerning AM, he admitted to biting off more than he could chew and was "in over his head" running for safety and employing the protection of CONCORD was his last resort. -several programs, used by counterfieters, to create fake pod pilot kill mails were also discovered. Only by employing several "green" graduates of local academies and bribing them with large amounts of isk was he able to discover AM pilot names and ship types. -video diary, the man pictured here is obviously broken and torn, bankrupt from bribes and ship losses. most popular phrase stated "Why oh why can I not succeed?" It would appear by the study and examination of the electronic files you sent me that Trevidian is in fact truthful in one manner. He was correct in stating he is indeed crazy. -signed Dr. T. Phenyo" There you have it pilots of Aegis, you need not worry any more. This man is no threat. Carry on victoriously. ___________________________ Aegis Militia Conclave official representative
Sirilius	Posted - 2005.08.18 16:21:00 - [112] Edited by: Sirilius on 18/08/2005 16:23:37 Lets clear this stupid mess. I'll do this as non-flamable as I can...try to read the post before you reply. Smeghead INC was contracted to declare war on AM. Smeghead INC never surrendered as we were contracted for the week. If it makes you feel any better then fine "we surrendered" because our contract ended... I wont go into whether AM ran and hid or whatever as thats pretty pointless... Lets see what else needs to be sorted.. ahh yes.. couple of our active members at the time, sprayed for one, were unable to post their killmails on Evekill as they forgot their password :/. So there are couple of extra battleships killed and ganked that wasnt posted. And lastly, Smeghead INC never "crumbled to the all mighty forces of AM" from this war. Most of Smeghead INC pilots originated from Kr0m. Smeghead INC, with most of its pilots, merged into Kr0m when Kr0m came out of it's first hiberation as the World of Warcraft***s got bored of picking flowers. Kr0m went back into hiberation again after about a month and abit because the leader/s felt real-life* needed attention. If you do not know, you are unable to war-dec people in a n00b corp. As you can see Trevedian is in a n00b corp looking for a corp so stop flaming him and recruit the corpless nutter. On another note, alot of the Smeghead INC/Kr0m crew has splitted to different corps, some joining well-known and respected corps (me!) or some created their own corps and running their own lifes.. (sprayed!) So i doubt everyone can be bothered to gather under the same banner just to spend isk war-dec-ing you... unless someone contracts us to dec AM and pay the bills. Now bugger off and play Eve.. Edit - Typo
Graelyn	Posted - 2005.08.18 16:36:00 - [113] Edited by: Graelyn on 18/08/2005 16:37:20 I'll post once more and pray for some closure. AM did not kick the hell out of Smegheads Inc. We did not grind them to dust. The kills in that war were not deathly damaging, in fact only slightly in our favor. It was a four day war. What's to brag about? Hence why you never saw a "AM WHOOPS SMEGHEADS" post anywhere. There's no pride in it. To see this war in all it's insignificance become a point of contention was confusing. To see Trevidian claiming to have 'dominated' us, and undeclaring out of boredom, well that's just ignorant and rude. To see his 4 alts come to support him in this arguement was pretty crass. To see him spoof killmails was just plain infuriating. To see him threaten to re-declare, only to back down since he doesn't have the ability to in Viziam, was kind of amusing. A Caldari should understand the meaning behind 'not writing checks one cannot cash'. No real bad blood between AM and the Ex-Smegheads. You guys didn't start these outlandish claims, or the loud childish screaming. It was all the source of one person. To the rest of you, Fly Strong out there. You were not an easy foe. Not your average Amarrian Loyalist.... CEO - The Aeternus Crusade
Sirilius	Posted - 2005.08.18 16:43:00 - [114] Edited by: Sirilius on 18/08/2005 16:46:54 Edited by: Sirilius on 18/08/2005 16:43:34 Originally by: Graelyn To see him spoof killmails was just plain infuriating. read my last edit. And as I'm too lazy and rather watch TV, can you quote Trev saying he wants to spend isk from his fat wallet to war dec AM again. Edit - Opps wrong quote 2nd Edit - I'm not very good at this forum posting..
Graelyn	Posted - 2005.08.18 19:29:00 - [115] Quote: Sadly you guys are prolly just trying to save face here, which I can understand, but continue to be pests and you will be purged... AGAIN! Quote: Don't make me kick ur no0b azzez again... Are we done here? Not your average Amarrian Loyalist.... CEO - The Aeternus Crusade
Lord Artemis	Posted - 2005.08.18 19:40:00 - [116] I am. The evidence uncovered and Dr. Phenyo's analysis are enough for me indeed. ___________________________ Aegis Militia Conclave official representative
Strikeclone	Posted - 2005.08.18 19:42:00 - [117] Strikeclone shakes his head in ammusement, completely lost as he reads the off topic replies. Sighing but realising that his message to russo has been hijacked, he opens up a 'final' reply. C.A.G. has been disbanded due to internal issues, its honour and integrity intact. russo has failed to display and evidence to back up his accusations of C.A.G. being liars. And the matter is now moot, like this thread. That is all OOC mods please lock my thread, thx Strikeclone "Peace through the application of superior firepower" http://wrathofangels.proboards55.com/index.cgi?
Sirilius	Posted - 2005.08.18 20:28:00 - [118] Actually doesnt completely say he wants to war dec you. However if he really wants to, I'm sure he'll wind up in some corp which has problems with AM. Are we suppose to role play? Anyway, its a game, need to play it more then argue on forum. Had to respond to this as I was a lazy director of Smeggy ^_^. Lets have cookies or I'll war dec you
Graelyn	Posted - 2005.08.18 21:41:00 - [119] Cookies it is! You seem a good sport in most of this. Still not sure what 'game' and 'roles' you're talking about. Do you run a gambling corporation hangar? Not your average Amarrian Loyalist.... CEO - The Aeternus Crusade

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