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Koronakesh
Seekers of a Silent Paradise
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Posted - 2013.02.20 10:53:00 -
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See the Titans article.
First: Will we be seeing any artwork or visual featuring of this most Golden of Gold ships anytime soon, or any updated equivalent featuring the Iapetan titans that the factions retain in their navies?
Second: Is there any possibility we can get more specific breakdowns on comparisons between the Iapetans and our common-stock Prometheans besides bigger, better, and more expensive?
And less-serious, please drop Solteuer all over the Leviathan above C. Prime when you get around to that spot of TEA, thanks SASPR Amir al-Mu'minin and Eve Online Hold'Em Management |
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
2195

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Posted - 2013.02.20 11:34:00 -
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The reference to the Iapetan Titans was written basically to clear up a continuity error. There aren't currently any plans to represent them in game, though the Solteuer was in game at one point before the current Titans were implemented. New Eden Community Representative GÇ+ New Eden Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept
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Koronakesh
Seekers of a Silent Paradise
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Posted - 2013.02.20 12:28:00 -
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The answer is depressing where it informs, equally where it does not. Oh well. SASPR Amir al-Mu'minin and Eve Online Hold'Em Management |
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.02.20 14:42:00 -
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Just because there aren't plans now doesn't mean there won't be in the future. They can be assumed to still exist in the Empire navies, as that was the intent when the article was written. Though depicting them in game requires a lot of resources for something that, currently, would just serve as rarely art pieces. Game design would have to come up with a reason to put "bigger, better, badder" Titans in the game. New Eden Community Representative GÇ+ New Eden Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept
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Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
1269
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Posted - 2013.02.20 15:24:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:Just because there aren't plans now doesn't mean there won't be in the future. They can be assumed to still exist in the Empire navies, as that was the intent when the article was written. Though depicting them in game requires a lot of resources for something that, currently, would just serve as rarely art pieces. Game design would have to come up with a reason to put "bigger, better, badder" Titans in the game.
Well the game is currently saturated with Titans in nul. An event could have an Iapetan Titan from say, the Federation, dropped onto the C. Prime Leviathan. If it's destroyed, it drops a BPO or BPC. Caldari counter with their own I.T. Similar events could occur for the Amarr and Caldari.
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Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
920
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Posted - 2013.02.20 15:28:00 -
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you really want the CalPrime titan dead, don't you? An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
1269
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Posted - 2013.02.20 15:46:00 -
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Stitcher wrote:you really want the CalPrime titan dead, don't you?
I want something big and exciting to happen for Anslo's big reveal dammit.
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Saul Elsyn
Sturmvogel Squadron
58
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Posted - 2013.02.20 19:02:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:Just because there aren't plans now doesn't mean there won't be in the future. They can be assumed to still exist in the Empire navies, as that was the intent when the article was written. Though depicting them in game requires a lot of resources for something that, currently, would just serve as rarely art pieces. Game design would have to come up with a reason to put "bigger, better, badder" Titans in the game.
Well, you could always spawn one as a 'boss' for taking a system in faction warfare. Make it orbit the infrastructure hub perhaps? |

Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.02.20 20:26:00 -
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Saul Elsyn wrote: didn't the Serpentis make off with a Solveteur at some point? Does that mean they have or are developing their own Titan class? That'd be pretty useful if they ever decided to expand incursions to include the other NPC factions.
The Solteur Titan scared the crap out of me tbh. That thing looked so...alien. Like a ship from Aliens, an Engineer ship...no windows..no...natural curves..alienish green just....eff man.
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Saul Elsyn
Sturmvogel Squadron
58
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Posted - 2013.02.21 00:31:00 -
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Speaking of Titans... has anyone counted up the number of Avatar-class ships that were at Jamyl's coronation ceremony?
Sure there may only be only a few of the older Iapetan titans, but there are probably many more of the smaller Promethean Titans under the control of the faction fleets then the capsuleers have fielded, and I would not be surprised if the various pirate factions are hard at work developing their own variants, because if we everyday capsuleers have gotten hold of them, those vast organizations have certainly gotten hold of them as well.
Wasn't there some screenshot of a fleet that Sansha had in a wormhole that included something like five titans? |

Gosakumori Noh
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.02.21 01:33:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:Just because there aren't plans now doesn't mean there won't be in the future. They can be assumed to still exist in the Empire navies, as that was the intent when the article was written. Though depicting them in game requires a lot of resources for something that, currently, would just serve as rarely art pieces. Game design would have to come up with a reason to put "bigger, better, badder" Titans in the game.
Enamored as I am with the herald of Man's End... er, Equilibrium, these ships should remain mysterious and apart. In gaming, once something has stats, it becomes yesterday's raid tier.
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Koronakesh
Seekers of a Silent Paradise
108
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Posted - 2013.02.21 01:37:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:Just because there aren't plans now doesn't mean there won't be in the future. They can be assumed to still exist in the Empire navies, as that was the intent when the article was written. Though depicting them in game requires a lot of resources for something that, currently, would just serve as rarely art pieces. Game design would have to come up with a reason to put "bigger, better, badder" Titans in the game. I think you're misunderstanding the original query. I'm not interested in them being implemented in-game, for players, in any sense. I'm only interested in the possibility of visual imagery featuring the Iapetans (particularly the ES), and of a secondary interest, specifics on their comparison to the Promethean versions. (for example, names of all four instead of just the two would be a nice starting point)
But since there are no existing entries besides the Soltueur in the event video and the image of the Imud Hubrau, I suppose I'll just go buy my own art on the rest. SASPR Amir al-Mu'minin and Eve Online Hold'Em Management |

Saul Elsyn
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2013.02.23 20:16:00 -
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It does bring up some interesting thoughts to me regarding the use of Titans in EVE... I mean, NPC deployment of them could certainly be used for various causes (faction warfare, incursions, and special events). Even when we're just talking about the NPC corporations there's a lot of titans out there.
Amarr Unknown-class Iapetan Titans: Production: 3 (1 in Khanid Kingdom Possession)
Amarr Avatar-class Promethean Titans: Production: At least 35 by the Amarr Empire (35 are visible in Empress Jamyl's Coronation ceremony)
Caldari Unknown-class Iapetan Titans: Production: Unknown, likely roughly equal to the Gallente Navy.
Caldari Leviathan-class Promethean Titans: Production: At least 1 by the Caldari Navy (Deployed over Caldari Prime)
Gallente Solveteur-class Iapetan Titans: Production: 6 (1 in Serpentis Possession)
Gallente Erberus-class Promethean Titans: Production: At least 1 by the Gallente Federation (Deployment visible in Quantum Rise)
Minmatar Unknown-class Iapetan Titans: Production: Unknown (likely very few)
Minmatar Ragnarok-class Promethean Titans: Production: Unknown (At least two have been destroyed in fleet engagements) |

Gosakumori Noh
Viziam Amarr Empire
108
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Posted - 2013.02.23 21:02:00 -
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Saul Elsyn wrote: Gallente Erberus-class Promethean Titans: Production: At least 1 by the Gallente Federation (Deployment visible in Quantum Rise)
The Gallente sent some number of titan/motherships out of the cluster a year or so ago on a colonization mission. Kind of a cool development, particularly if anything might come of it. |

Saul Elsyn
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
60
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Posted - 2013.02.23 21:53:00 -
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Gosakumori Noh wrote:Saul Elsyn wrote: Gallente Erberus-class Promethean Titans: Production: At least 1 by the Gallente Federation (Deployment visible in Quantum Rise)
The Gallente sent some number of titan/motherships out of the cluster a year or so ago on a colonization mission. Kind of a cool development, particularly if anything might come of it. That is quite cool... I wonder if they were the old Solveutur-class ships that were decommissioned or something, as I get the impression that the Iapetan Titans are larger then the Prometheans.
It does suggest that the empires own quite a few ships of the Titan and Mothership class if they can afford to send them off on a colonial mission while a war is going on... |
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.02.23 22:20:00 -
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Iapetans are indeed supposed to be larger than Promethean titans. Iapetan titans are the ones described as needing the resources of an entire moon to be built and disrupting the tides of a planet.
By the way, you can thank Delegate Zero for the names for the classes of titans, which I think are pretty great names. New Eden Community Representative GÇ+ New Eden Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept
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Gosakumori Noh
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.02.24 03:21:00 -
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Saul Elsyn wrote:Gosakumori Noh wrote:The Gallente sent some number of titan/motherships out of the cluster a year or so ago on a colonization mission. Kind of a cool development, particularly if anything might come of it. That is quite cool... I wonder if they were the old Solveutur-class ships that were decommissioned or something, as I get the impression that the Iapetan Titans are larger then the Prometheans. It does suggest that the empires own quite a few ships of the Titan and Mothership class if they can afford to send them off on a colonial mission while a war is going on...
Took a bit of poking around, but here is the story:
http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1506843 |

Saul Elsyn
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
60
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Posted - 2013.02.24 04:47:00 -
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Wow that's even more mind boggling for the Federation... They built from scratch 5 titan sized ships for this while fighting a low-grade war with the Caldari State and occasional skirmishes with the Amarr Empire. Suddenly I'm thinking of the newer Macross series for those worldships. XD
My hat's off to the Gallente Federation for going that far... I'd guess they'd be jumpbridge equipped at least to allow their escort fleet to keep up with them. Plus a Nyx for the escort's flagship... I wonder how much of the Gallente Federation's Budget went into that?
Gallente Ouranos-class Worldship Production: 5 (Ouranos Frontier Fleet)
As for the Iapetan sized Titans... I suppose it's possible that if they're say 4 times the size of the Promethean Titan they'd be what 64 times the mass (mass advances by the ^3 of the length) and easily have 10 times the power generation and heat dissipation capability? In which case their doomsday device may well be firing once a minute or less... Even at only 2 times the size of the Promethean Titans it'd be 8 times the mass and probably have almost that much increase in power generation.
Ouch, yeah that should never get into the player population's hands... Now I would love to see a FW event involving them... Perhaps during an escalation of the war or something. A ship like that is probably the equivalent of an entire fleet of capsuleer ships in terms of firepower.
And it would never go anywhere by its lonesome. Hell they probably have Promethean Titans assigned to their support fleet. That's... that's just scary to think about. |
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CCP Falcon
2387

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Posted - 2013.02.24 12:59:00 -
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Gosakumori Noh wrote:Saul Elsyn wrote:Gosakumori Noh wrote:The Gallente sent some number of titan/motherships out of the cluster a year or so ago on a colonization mission. Kind of a cool development, particularly if anything might come of it. That is quite cool... I wonder if they were the old Solveutur-class ships that were decommissioned or something, as I get the impression that the Iapetan Titans are larger then the Prometheans. It does suggest that the empires own quite a few ships of the Titan and Mothership class if they can afford to send them off on a colonial mission while a war is going on... Took a bit of poking around, but here is the story: http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1506843
For reference, that post and the story behind it is player written, rather than by CCP. At the time, that particular character caused a lot of confusion among players by using the ISD Mercury official news banners in player created forum posts from The Scope.
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Esna Pitoojee
Wolfsbrigade Lost Obsession
249
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Posted - 2013.02.24 23:21:00 -
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Worth noting that the late-Alpha/early-Beta names of the initial Titans in the game were apparently:
- Amarr: Imud-Hubrau - Caldari: Unclear, I have heard the name "Omnya" used. - Minmatar: Leviathan (yes, the same as the Caldari now) - Gallente: Solteur |

Saul Elsyn
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
60
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Posted - 2013.02.24 23:55:00 -
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Okay... then I guess we can say provisionally that the class names are.
Amarr - Imud Hubrau-class Caldari - Omnya-class? Gallente - Solteur-class Minmatar - (A Sea Monster... considering the nordic and icelandic bend of the Minmatar I nominate the name Saeskrimsli-class) |

Eija-Riitta Veitonen
Unicorn Enterprise
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Posted - 2013.02.25 01:36:00 -
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Actually Minmatar may not have any Iapetan Titan at all. Don't forget that the titan tech was shared with them by the Gallente somewhere during the 2nd-gen titan armsrace and they wouldn't likely have the resources to build one anyway at the time those were being built by other empires (the Republic is, after all, the newest sovereign state in New Eden cluster). |

Saul Elsyn
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
60
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Posted - 2013.02.25 02:00:00 -
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That's quite possible... which makes it a bit amusing to me. The only confirmed Empire Titan losses we've seen have all been Minmatar. Man, they really need to win some victories sometime soon or something. |

Mekhana
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
790
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Posted - 2013.02.25 05:14:00 -
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I nominate Jormungand for the Minmatar super titan. SP-DR is recruiting: http://spdr.enjin.com Amarr Empire in a nut shell: http://i48.tinypic.com/2luayva.jpg |

Sonkut
Network Gel
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Posted - 2013.02.26 15:32:00 -
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In Terms of the Matari titan, i have only one thing to say.
Below the thunders of the upper deep; Far far beneath in the abysmal sea, His ancient, dreamless, uninvaded sleep The Kraken sleepeth. |

Esna Pitoojee
Wolfsbrigade Lost Obsession
249
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Posted - 2013.02.26 18:02:00 -
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Eija-Riitta Veitonen wrote:Actually Minmatar may not have any Iapetan Titan at all. Don't forget that the titan tech was shared with them by the Gallente somewhere during the 2nd-gen titan armsrace and they wouldn't likely have the resources to build one anyway at the time those were being built by other empires (the Republic is, after all, the newest sovereign state in New Eden cluster).
This is the old Minmatar titan. Admittedly I don't believe there is any "exact" written PF for its existence; however, it did share the beta-era skies with titans we know exist, such as the Imud-Hubrau and Solteur |

Saul Elsyn
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
60
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Posted - 2013.02.26 20:11:00 -
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I wonder... that ship looks almost like a flying minmatar city... could the Minmatar have converted a sort of migrant worldship for the role of Titan? They are resource poor compared to the other empires...
Though, that sounds more like something the Thukker Tribe would do. |

Esna Pitoojee
Wolfsbrigade Lost Obsession
250
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Posted - 2013.02.26 22:08:00 -
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Saul Elsyn wrote:I wonder... that ship looks almost like a flying minmatar city... could the Minmatar have converted a sort of migrant worldship for the role of Titan? They are resource poor compared to the other empires...
Though, that sounds more like something the Thukker Tribe would do.
I would say it's a Space Hulk, but that woul- ohwait, it is. :Trollface: |

Saede Riordan
Alexylva Paradox
3361
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Posted - 2013.02.28 03:01:00 -
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Esna Pitoojee wrote:Eija-Riitta Veitonen wrote:Actually Minmatar may not have any Iapetan Titan at all. Don't forget that the titan tech was shared with them by the Gallente somewhere during the 2nd-gen titan armsrace and they wouldn't likely have the resources to build one anyway at the time those were being built by other empires (the Republic is, after all, the newest sovereign state in New Eden cluster). This is the old Minmatar titan. Admittedly I don't believe there is any "exact" written PF for its existence; however, it did share the beta-era skies with titans we know exist, such as the Imud-Hubrau and Solteur
Its a giant hookbill!
Torn from grace, gotta find your faith or the devils gonna claim your soul
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Sonkut
Network Gel Strategic Alliance
1
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Posted - 2013.02.28 13:37:00 -
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The Minmatar were always a tribal and migrant race so a "mobile space city" would make sense. If any race were more likely to build it closer to the idea of a mothership than a battlestation i would have thought fictionally it would be them.
Edit to avoid doublepost:
In which case it wouldn't be out of the question to think it's the base command ship for the Elder fleet and hidden somewhere out there. |
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