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Whitehound
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Posted - 2013.02.21 15:48:00 -
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...it is not going to be boring.
According to this little article will our universe not simply fade a way, but we get another one exploding inside of ours.
Time to make reservations at the Restaurant at the End of the Universe. There will be fireworks!! Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling. |

Alice Saki
Suddenly Spaced Out Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2013.02.21 15:49:00 -
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PPPPPPAAAAARRRRRTTTTYYYYYY LIKES IT'S 1999!! I lack any Moral Fiber :D PvP Pilots Click Below ^_^ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=207115&find=unread |

Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
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Posted - 2013.02.21 16:28:00 -
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I stick to Moorcock-¦s theory as portrayed in "Dancers at the End of Time", the universe will never end to those in a time loop. Inner Sayings of BrujoLoco: http://eve-files.com/sig/brujoloco |

Graygor
1kB Realty 1kB Galactic
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Posted - 2013.02.21 16:43:00 -
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Whitehound wrote:...it is not going to be boring. According to this little article will our universe not simply fade a way, but we get another one exploding inside of ours. Time to make reservations at the Restaurant at the End of the Universe. There will be fireworks!!
My money is on Futurama's take on it.
It'll be the same but slightly below us. Allowing us to cancel all paradoxes... by crushing them to death. "I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." --áKenneth O'Hara
Post with your brainGäó |

jason hill
The Riot Formation Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.02.21 19:01:00 -
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Brujo Loco wrote:I stick to Moorcock-¦s theory as portrayed in "Dancers at the End of Time", the universe will never end to those in a time loop. 
plus one for you sir ! not that many peeps have read that book .... and its a good un  |

Ruvan Oakstark
Solarem Titanas
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Posted - 2013.02.22 22:18:00 -
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Energy cannot be created or destroyed. Therefore, when the new universe explodes within ours, we will simply, at the molecular level, become part of it. In fact, it may be so seemless, that perhaps we are continuously shifting realities due to universe explosions and not even realize it. Thus is existance.
Also... I like jellybabies. You better roll that first 'R' when you say my name. Seriously. |

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
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Posted - 2013.02.22 22:23:00 -
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Brujo Loco wrote:I stick to Moorcock-¦s theory as portrayed in "Dancers at the End of Time", the universe will never end to those in a time loop.  Tanelorn awaits.
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Malcanis for CSM8 |

Jonah Gravenstein
Universal Corporate Repossession Inc.
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Posted - 2013.02.22 22:25:00 -
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Don't forget your towel.
Eve in a nutshell, it's you vs the universe, and everybody in it. |

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.02.22 22:26:00 -
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Graygor wrote:Whitehound wrote:...it is not going to be boring. According to this little article will our universe not simply fade a way, but we get another one exploding inside of ours. Time to make reservations at the Restaurant at the End of the Universe. There will be fireworks!! My money is on Futurama's take on it. It'll be the same but slightly below us. Allowing us to cancel all paradoxes... by crushing them to death.
How do we know you won't just destroy our box when you get back to your own universe?  "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |

Jonah Gravenstein
Universal Corporate Repossession Inc.
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Posted - 2013.02.22 22:40:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:How do we know you won't just destroy our box when you get back to your own universe? 
Thanks for the excuse to post some 80's cheese
Eve in a nutshell, it's you vs the universe, and everybody in it. |

Something Random
The Barrow Boys
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Posted - 2013.02.22 23:29:00 -
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I love the way its graphically been portrayed recently, and very obviously.
We wil be looking the other way when it happens - there is some serious math backing that up.
Enjoy it - cause if its in your lifetime - weirdly, your blessed - by the biggest firework show ever. "caught on fire a little bit, just a little." "Delinquents, check, weirdos, check, hippies, check, pillheads, check, freaks, check, potheads, check .....gangsn++ all here!" |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2013.02.22 23:42:00 -
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Something Random wrote:We wil be looking the other way when it happens - there is some serious math backing that up.
I knew it! I ******* knew it! I told my math teacher that math would be the end of the universe and he laughed at me and gave me detention. Whos laughing now! Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

Joran Dravius
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.02.23 01:14:00 -
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Whitehound wrote:...it is not going to be boring. According to this little article will our universe not simply fade a way, but we get another one exploding inside of ours. Time to make reservations at the Restaurant at the End of the Universe. There will be fireworks!! Read about that on Ars Technica a few days ago. I don't think we have anything to worry about. Slight differences in the readings make a massive difference in the universe's stability and those measurements they took have a relatively huge margin of error. |

Pr1ncess Alia
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.02.23 02:09:00 -
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two cents on my beliefs here
(more of a seemingly logical persuasion, though not true logic as admittedly I can't support the logic with an evidence based argument)
The universe is not infinite in 3 dimensional expanse, but the very existence of the dimensions themselves are merely physical traits of the universe. As such, it could be considered infinite in every respect, as to presume anything outside of that respect is outside of reality and existence.
Just as you've probably heard from a mathematician or physicists comment regarding the terminology of a 'mulitverse' .... if another universe explodes to life within ourselves, then it remains a part of our UNIverse, as does anything else we can observe or conclude as existing.
Perhaps (almost certainly) our discussions of these topics are constrained by our very limited senses and the perspectives they lend us on perceiving our reality. That said...
if we can assume math at it's basics to be correct and our logic to be somewhat sound then I believe either this universe is a one shot deal that will eventually dissipate into an emptiness of eternally frozen matter... or, all of this is truly eternally perpetuated. (I'm not sure which would make it more precious and fascinating.)
A binge and purge cycle. That all of this at least had the opportunity to happen before and will play out again and again and again, though whether events are repeated exactly or if chaos reigns supreme within a truly infinite life/death cycle is anyones guess.
Imagine, an infinite progression of realities built on the ashes of the past, inevitably yielding to the next. Conversely, imagine nothingness. We truly aren't capable of either but the previous seems much more likely to me. However the latter is absolutely fascinating to entertain,
what if there was truly nothing and then something (creation)? And that if this reality is doomed to revisit that nothingness again, balancing the equation and that reality itself was some freak accident inside a nothingness we can't even comprehend?
What if these instances (floabw) as we see them in our own perceived time/space continuum are in another given dimension (or perspective if you will) simultaneous and concurrent and the cycle is a balance that preserves their separation at other dimensions (perspectives) ....like the aforementioned we are stuck observing with our limited meatsack vessels?
Again, I don't think we are properly equipped to deal with these questions. I think we spend more time trying to deal with our inability to conceive concepts such as the infinite and nothingness than we do anything else. And even those of us that were specially gifted to gain some insight at a fundamental (mathematical) level are not properly equipped to explain it to the rest of us :P ...
but perhaps one day we will find enlightenment.. and when that day comes we'll get to find out whether this universe (however you may apply that word) is all just so impossibly complicated,
or if we will realize that it's so much simpler than we could have ever imagined, and the truth was right in front of us this entire time. We just couldn't get past the inherent deficiencies in the perceptions nature has left us to wrestle with.
I love this crap. How can we be so gifted as to imagine all the possibilities but not gifted enough to deduce which is the proper explanation? Or do we understand nothing at all, and what we consider philosophy is just us dazzling ourselves with our own bullshit? |
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