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Roghn
United Federation of FBCMI
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Posted - 2013.02.21 16:44:00 -
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Hello everyone,
I've just come back after a year or two of inactivity, and have found that I need to find a different way to play this game. I use to solo level 4's with my drone boat Domi and five ogre II. This is NOT a QQ thread about the new AI, I think its fine that they have updated the AI to be more realistic. However, I have a few questions:
1. What is the next easiest Gallente ship and weapons could I train up to to solo level 4's (if possible)?
2. I've heard that clearing rats in null sec with drone boats is still possible, as they are BS and BC, and they don't target drones as much. Is this true?
3. Is there some secret to drone boating that I could use to solo level 4's(Hey, one can always hope)? |
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
972
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Posted - 2013.02.21 16:46:00 -
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Roghn wrote:Hello everyone,
I've just come back after a year or two of inactivity, and have found that I need to find a different way to play this game. I use to solo level 4's with my drone boat Domi and five ogre II. This is NOT a QQ thread about the new AI, I think its fine that they have updated the AI to be more realistic. However, I have a few questions:
1. What is the next easiest Gallente ship and weapons could I train up to to solo level 4's (if possible)?
2. I've heard that clearing rats in null sec with drone boats is still possible, as they are BS and BC, and they don't target drones as much. Is this true?
3. Is there some secret to drone boating that I could use to solo level 4's(Hey, one can always hope)?
1. The next easiest Gallente ship for missions is a Tengu. Don't believe me? Compare the SP reqs for Hybrids/blasters compared to HMLs. When you consider you'll spend less than 1/2 the sp training for missile to acquire the same performance minus all the drawbacks for guns (tracking, range, dps) you'll find that missiles make a lot more sense for pve.
2. Dunno, don't fly null
3. Solo drone boating for pve is all but dead. Fly something else.
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Orlacc
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Posted - 2013.02.21 16:46:00 -
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Roghn wrote:Hello everyone,
I've just come back after a year or two of inactivity, and have found that I need to find a different way to play this game. I use to solo level 4's with my drone boat Domi and five ogre II. This is NOT a QQ thread about the new AI, I think its fine that they have updated the AI to be more realistic. However, I have a few questions:
1. What is the next easiest Gallente ship and weapons could I train up to to solo level 4's (if possible)?
2. I've heard that clearing rats in null sec with drone boats is still possible, as they are BS and BC, and they don't target drones as much. Is this true?
3. Is there some secret to drone boating that I could use to solo level 4's(Hey, one can always hope)?
Yes. Use a MJD. Snipe with sentries. Repeat. If anything, L4s are easier for a Domi now. Especially if you take the time to train up large hybrids. |
Lady von Baroness
Mizara's Dollhouse
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Posted - 2013.02.21 16:49:00 -
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Try fitting an ECM or two, and use them. The AI seems to choose my boat over my drones while I have the ECM running on the NPC's, even if it isn't contributing too much.
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Whitehound
909
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Posted - 2013.02.21 16:50:00 -
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Megathron with rails and sentries.
Do not follow the ECM Burst advise when you run missions in high-sec. Others will come and sneak into your mission to get you CONCORDed.
Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling. |
Cebraio
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
237
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Posted - 2013.02.21 16:54:00 -
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Drones:
You could use sentry drones. Since they stay next to your ship, they can be scooped or remote repaired easily.
Gallente in general:
For missions in high sec I would use a Kronos. Awesome damage, tank and cargo hold + tractor beam range bonus and unused high slots.*
(*Marauders have less weapon mounts but doubled damage.)
These things are PVE monsters by design.
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Cebraio
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
237
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Posted - 2013.02.21 16:56:00 -
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Whitehound wrote:Megathron with rails and sentries.
Do not follow the ECM Burst advise when you run missions in high-sec. Others will come and sneak into your mission to get you CONCORDed.
She didn't advise ECM burst, but targeted ECM. That's a big difference, unless you are stupid and try to ECM a player in hi-sec. But Retribution even added a filter for stupid in the form of a safety button. |
Rengerel en Distel
Amarr Science and Industry
1243
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Posted - 2013.02.21 16:57:00 -
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Use sentries and you're fine with the domi.
With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
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Roghn
United Federation of FBCMI
0
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Posted - 2013.02.21 17:03:00 -
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Thanks guys, I'll look into all of it. I like the idea of ECM, that will be easy to test. I also didn't even think about sentries. I'll fire up EFT and see what I need for a Kronos. I'm glad there are so many options, I have expected "u r screwed, train missiles", guess that's what makes this game great. |
Ptraci
Militaris Industries
Northern Coalition.
1290
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Posted - 2013.02.21 17:40:00 -
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Roghn wrote:
3. Is there some secret to drone boating that I could use to solo level 4's(Hey, one can always hope)?
Micro jump drive and sentry drones. Just sayin' |
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Demolishar
United Aggression
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Posted - 2013.02.21 17:45:00 -
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Roghn wrote:Hello everyone,
I've just come back after a year or two of inactivity, and have found that I need to find a different way to play this game. I use to solo level 4's with my drone boat Domi and five ogre II.
Read this, thought "Aha! A carebear who wants to change his ways and become an actual valued member of our little virtual society!".
Read on and despaired. |
Rain6637
Team Evil
495
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Posted - 2013.02.21 18:18:00 -
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drone frigates: worm. up to 50m3 drone bay = 5 mediums or 10 lights
I've been able to rock LVL4s with harpys, with the exception of webbing NPCs on missions such as worlds collide.
I've been meaning to attempt the merlin thing again, with a worm. and use its drones to take care of webbing frigs and cruisers.
rock harpy! /!\ *language* /!\
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000Hunter000
Missiles 'R' Us
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Posted - 2013.02.21 18:23:00 -
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Hm yes... L4 missions... I really need to try that out again.
Wonder if my dual NH combo special still is as effective as ever! |
Chandaris
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
265
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Posted - 2013.02.21 18:36:00 -
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Orlacc wrote:Yes. Use a MJD. Snipe with sentries. Repeat. If anything, L4s are easier for a Domi now. Especially if you take the time to train up large hybrids.
This. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2013.02.21 18:46:00 -
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Chandaris wrote:Orlacc wrote:Yes. Use a MJD. Snipe with sentries. Repeat. If anything, L4s are easier for a Domi now. Especially if you take the time to train up large hybrids. This.
That.
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RAP ACTION HERO
160
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Posted - 2013.02.21 19:37:00 -
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Vindicator?
vitoc erryday |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
606
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Posted - 2013.02.21 19:47:00 -
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Roghn wrote:1. What is the next easiest Gallente ship and weapons could I train up to to solo level 4's (if possible)?
YOU, have never thought about rails mega?
Navy version is quite imba and has a huge drone bay to deal with every single situation you might find.
Shield Navy Domi might be actually what you're looking for, huge tank, tons of dps with rails and drones, everything to please.
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Rain6637
Team Evil
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Posted - 2013.02.21 21:25:00 -
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also gila?
my fav ship of all time is turning out to be the rattlesnake guns? why? 
I've never tried the domi
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Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
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Posted - 2013.02.22 02:14:00 -
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You're still using drones? Buy a Drake or Hurricane you noo... oh wait. HA HA HA sorry had to laugh at the Drake whiners for a second.
This is still the first time I've ever heard anyone saying at Domi + Sentries wasn't the perfect AFK kit. Oh wait... you were using heavies? Oh sorry, my apologies. CCP forgot to remove heavy drones from the game last patch. They're not really an item anymore, though. They're just kind of like souvenirs now, mementos of a happier time when drones were still a viable weapon choice.
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Fairren
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2013.02.22 03:08:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Chandaris wrote:Orlacc wrote:Yes. Use a MJD. Snipe with sentries. Repeat. If anything, L4s are easier for a Domi now. Especially if you take the time to train up large hybrids. This. That.
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Captain Tardbar
NEWB ALERT
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Posted - 2013.02.22 03:16:00 -
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Whoops... I didn't bother to read the thread. What I said was redundant.
"Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby".
If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down. |
Whitehound
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Posted - 2013.02.22 05:13:00 -
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Cebraio wrote:Whitehound wrote:Megathron with rails and sentries.
Do not follow the ECM Burst advise when you run missions in high-sec. Others will come and sneak into your mission to get you CONCORDed. She didn't advise ECM burst, but targeted ECM. That's a big difference, unless you are stupid and try to ECM a player in hi-sec. But Retribution even added a filter for stupid in the form of a safety button.
I do not know who "she" is. Players have suggested a few times to use ECM Burst to keep aggro. I can only advise against it for said reason.
Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling. |
Mr Ignitious
Aperture Harmonics
K162
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Posted - 2013.02.22 06:46:00 -
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Katran Luftschreck wrote:You're still using drones? Buy a Drake or Hurricane you noo... oh wait. HA HA HA sorry had to laugh at the Drake whiners for a second.
This is still the first time I've ever heard anyone saying at Domi + Sentries wasn't the perfect AFK kit. Oh wait... you were using heavies? Oh sorry, my apologies. CCP forgot to remove heavy drones from the game last patch. They're not really an item anymore, though. They're just kind of like souvenirs now, mementos of a happier time when drones were still a viable weapon choice.
The plated ishtar with webs would like to have a word with you. And the proteus, for that matter.
For the op: I was much like you about 2 weeks ago. The ECM is a good suggestion, however I have a better one; A target painter. It keeps rat aggro on you AND helps your sentries/rails hit. Make sure you know aggro triggers though, otherwise your drones can end up pulling a bunch of hate.
As for kronos, of the 4 I was under the impression it was the worst. I would love to be proven wrong about this though. People are also suggesting shield navi domi, sounds pretty good to me. I'm skeptical about a gila though, I don't feel it would have as good of a clear time as a domi would.
I haven't personally tried the MJD sentry domi, but it sounds like it's worth a shot. |
Tamiya Sarossa
Resistance is Character Forming
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Posted - 2013.02.22 06:50:00 -
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Rail sentry domi/navy domi, don't worry about an MJD or anything. Thrown on a single RR to make love to your drones when you're not on the ball on recalling them and they grab a bit of aggro, call it a day, blitz kinetic/thermal weak missions faster than a mach. |
Cebraio
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
240
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Posted - 2013.02.22 09:29:00 -
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Whitehound wrote:
I do not know who "she" is. Players have suggested a few times to use ECM Burst to keep aggro. I can only advise against it for said reason.
May I present to you: "Her highness Lady von Baroness"
Lady von Baroness wrote:Try fitting an ECM or two, and use them. The AI seems to choose my boat over my drones while I have the ECM running on the NPC's, even if it isn't contributing too much.
Posted right above your ECM burst comment, so I made the obvious connection. My mistake?
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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
609
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Posted - 2013.02.22 09:39:00 -
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Rain6637 wrote:also gila? my fav ship of all time is turning out to be the rattlesnake guns? why? I've never tried the domi
Indeed Gila is an awesome ship too but for about the same price full fitted you really get a huge Navy Domi DPS monster.
Both are good, very good for pve or pvp but require awesome Drone/Hybrid skills.
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Halete
Alexylva Paradox
679
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Posted - 2013.02.22 10:17:00 -
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From the thread preview and title I was really hoping this was a 'What should I do in EVE that doesn't involve running L4s?' thread.
Trading chains for shackles, I am free. |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
Home Front Coalition
357
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Posted - 2013.02.22 15:19:00 -
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Whitehound wrote:Megathron with rails and sentries.
Do not follow the ECM Burst advise when you run missions in high-sec. Others will come and sneak into your mission to get you CONCORDed.
Somebody once advised me not to smartbomb Anomalies in hisec anymore 
EDIT: Never lost a ship smartbombing anything in hisec. Just make sure you are far enough away from the warp-in point, are aware of your range, watch your overview... you know... behaviour normally reserved for situations out of hisec. I'd say this goes for ECM bursts too. |
Joran Dravius
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
126
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Posted - 2013.02.22 15:52:00 -
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Roghn wrote:Hello everyone,
I've just come back after a year or two of inactivity, and have found that I need to find a different way to play this game. I use to solo level 4's with my drone boat Domi and five ogre II. This is NOT a QQ thread about the new AI, I think its fine that they have updated the AI to be more realistic. However, I have a few questions:
1. What is the next easiest Gallente ship and weapons could I train up to to solo level 4's (if possible)?
2. I've heard that clearing rats in null sec with drone boats is still possible, as they are BS and BC, and they don't target drones as much. Is this true?
3. Is there some secret to drone boating that I could use to solo level 4's(Hey, one can always hope)?
Since coming back i've worked my way up the drone boat line from a tristan to a myrmidon and I have lost exactly 1 drone across 4 sizes of drone boats and 3 levels of missions. I only lost that one because I hadn't figured out how to keep them from getting agro yet. Domi is fine, drones are fine and the AI is fine. The problem is you still trying to semi-AFK your missions and/or being incapable of learning from events that happen to you. I don't even use ECM. The only e-war type thing on my ship is a webber. |
March rabbit
player corp n1
559
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Posted - 2013.02.22 15:56:00 -
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Roghn wrote:3. Is there some secret to drone boating that I could use to solo level 4's(Hey, one can always hope)?
there is one secret. It is: sentry drones + micro jump drive = easy mode. You even don't need such strong tank which was used with regular drones: when you start to get too much DPS you just MJD away and snipe them with Wardens/bouncers/etc... works 100%
Just try it and you will see.
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