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SoOza N'GasZ
Geese Jugglers
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Posted - 2013.02.22 10:17:00 -
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Hurricane nerfing is a Sin.
first off whats the point in buying different ships if they are all pretty much equal within a tier..... just because of the race we chose at the beginning of the game?
And why cant we in balancing terms simply respect eve for what it is (to an extent that still works of course) without god constantly changing epic things that where for years, into completely medicore soso bits of metal?
The epicness of now nerfed ships where what defined that part of eve ... ccp is constantly working to make eve flat in my opinion. |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
2050
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Posted - 2013.02.22 10:20:00 -
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So you think it would be better if we had just two good ships, and everybody would either train for them or fly mediocre soso bits of metal?
makes sense in a GD kind of way
-á- All I really wanted was to build a castle among the stars - |
Kate stark
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Posted - 2013.02.22 10:20:00 -
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making eve flat, by promoting diversity of ships.... yeah, no.
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SoOza N'GasZ
Geese Jugglers
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Posted - 2013.02.22 10:22:00 -
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Roime wrote:So you think it would be better if we had just two good ships, and everybody would either train for them or fly mediocre soso bits of metal?
makes sense in a GD kind of way
why yes this is exactly what i think
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SoOza N'GasZ
Geese Jugglers
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Posted - 2013.02.22 10:23:00 -
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Kate stark wrote:making eve flat, by promoting diversity of ships.... yeah, no.
yeah but truly they are not creating diversity they are making diverse ships more the same as others ;) so with diminishing diversity |
Kate stark
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Posted - 2013.02.22 10:26:00 -
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SoOza N'GasZ wrote:Kate stark wrote:making eve flat, by promoting diversity of ships.... yeah, no. yeah but truly they are not creating diversity they are making diverse ships more the same as others ;)
except, they are creating diversity. there's a difference between "similar" and "the same" some ships are now similar but they are not the same.
this is why it does create diversity.
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SoOza N'GasZ
Geese Jugglers
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Posted - 2013.02.22 10:27:00 -
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Kate stark wrote:SoOza N'GasZ wrote:Kate stark wrote:making eve flat, by promoting diversity of ships.... yeah, no. yeah but truly they are not creating diversity they are making diverse ships more the same as others ;) except, they are creating diversity. there's a difference between "similar" and "the same" some ships are now similar but they are not the same. this is why it does create diversity.
really? making things less different is creating diversity? ok.... sorry
also in my childish english ( i apologize ) more the same is the same as similar. it is a fractional description of the same. |
Kate stark
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Posted - 2013.02.22 10:30:00 -
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SoOza N'GasZ wrote:Kate stark wrote:SoOza N'GasZ wrote:Kate stark wrote:making eve flat, by promoting diversity of ships.... yeah, no. yeah but truly they are not creating diversity they are making diverse ships more the same as others ;) except, they are creating diversity. there's a difference between "similar" and "the same" some ships are now similar but they are not the same. this is why it does create diversity. really? making things less different is creating diversity? ok.... sorry
as opposed to making 1 ship that every one flies and 7 ships that may as well not be in the game?
also i didn't say they were making things less different, and ccp didn't make things less different.
look at the prophecy and the myrmidon for example; both armour tanked drone boats. however the way they approach said role is completely different.
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SoOza N'GasZ
Geese Jugglers
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Posted - 2013.02.22 10:35:00 -
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Kate stark wrote:SoOza N'GasZ wrote:Kate stark wrote:SoOza N'GasZ wrote:Kate stark wrote:making eve flat, by promoting diversity of ships.... yeah, no. yeah but truly they are not creating diversity they are making diverse ships more the same as others ;) except, they are creating diversity. there's a difference between "similar" and "the same" some ships are now similar but they are not the same. this is why it does create diversity. really? making things less different is creating diversity? ok.... sorry as opposed to making 1 ship that every one flies and 7 ships that may as well not be in the game? also i didn't say they were making things less different, and ccp didn't make things less different. look at the prophecy and the myrmidon for example; both armour tanked drone boats. however the way they approach said role is completely different.
so now you are saying the hurricane was the only ship people ever flew in game? ok.....
and you think that all cars on earth should have very similar performance specifications in order to create diversity?
why do some people then buy an audi and others a vw with 50 Bhp less?
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Yuko Tsero
Hydra's Wrath
The Hydra Confederacy
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Posted - 2013.02.22 10:40:00 -
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Posting in a SoOza N'GasZ thread.
*grabs popcorn* |
Kate stark
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Posted - 2013.02.22 10:40:00 -
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SoOza N'GasZ wrote:so now you are saying the hurricane was the only ship people ever flew in game? ok.....
and you think that all cars on earth should have very similar performance specifications in order to create diversity?
why do some people then buy an audi and others a vw with 50 Bhp less?
more diversity means things are more different.
i didn't say hurricanes were the only ships people ever flew in the game. however it's nice to know that you think that's the case.
as for the rest of your post; what? can you *try* and make sense, please?
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SoOza N'GasZ
Geese Jugglers
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Posted - 2013.02.22 10:41:00 -
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Yuko Tsero wrote:Posting in a SoOza N'GasZ thread.
*grabs popcorn*
i must say im really enjoying the forums at the moment. |
SoOza N'GasZ
Geese Jugglers
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Posted - 2013.02.22 10:41:00 -
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Kate stark wrote:SoOza N'GasZ wrote:so now you are saying the hurricane was the only ship people ever flew in game? ok.....
and you think that all cars on earth should have very similar performance specifications in order to create diversity?
why do some people then buy an audi and others a vw with 50 Bhp less?
more diversity means things are more different. i didn't say hurricanes were the only ships people ever flew in the game. however it's nice to know that you think that's the case. as for the rest of your post; what? can you *try* and make sense, please?
No. |
Kate stark
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Posted - 2013.02.22 10:43:00 -
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i'll cut you a deal, if you try and post something that makes sense. i'll try not to point out how stupid it is.
deal?
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SoOza N'GasZ
Geese Jugglers
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Posted - 2013.02.22 10:46:00 -
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Kate stark wrote:i'll cut you a deal, if you try and post something that makes sense. i'll try not to point out how stupid it is. deal?
im sorry but i feel you are trying to avoid my argument because you know i am right by saying I dont make sense or that you simply are too challenged by it. So i wont accept your offer to reengage into an argument and waste time over matters that are already settled.
p.s. you are fired. |
Kate stark
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Posted - 2013.02.22 10:47:00 -
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SoOza N'GasZ wrote:Kate stark wrote:i'll cut you a deal, if you try and post something that makes sense. i'll try not to point out how stupid it is. deal? im sorry but i feel you are trying to avoid my argument because you know i am right by saying I dont make sense or that you simply are too challenged by it. So i wont accept your offer to reengage into an argument and waste time over matters that are already settled. p.s. you are fired.
you mean, that jumble of letters was an argument?
damn, really?
oh man...
Obvious Goon alt that's never mined a day in his life(!) |
TheBlueMonkey
Don't Be a Menace
That Red Alliance
437
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Posted - 2013.02.22 10:49:00 -
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I like how the logi ships work (although they need a little rounding)
1 for shield fleet
1 for armor fleet
1 for solo shield
1 for solo armor
If they did that kinda thing across all ships I'd be happy.
Different tools for different jobs etc. |
SoOza N'GasZ
Geese Jugglers
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Posted - 2013.02.22 10:49:00 -
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Kate stark wrote:SoOza N'GasZ wrote:Kate stark wrote:i'll cut you a deal, if you try and post something that makes sense. i'll try not to point out how stupid it is. deal? im sorry but i feel you are trying to avoid my argument because you know i am right by saying I dont make sense or that you simply are too challenged by it. So i wont accept your offer to reengage into an argument and waste time over matters that are already settled. p.s. you are fired. you mean, that jumble of letters was an argument? damn, really? oh man...
yes really, im sorry you didnt get it but i dont have time to reformulate it for you... youll just have to go out empty handed.... sorry bro. |
Kate stark
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Posted - 2013.02.22 10:51:00 -
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SoOza N'GasZ wrote:Kate stark wrote:SoOza N'GasZ wrote:Kate stark wrote:i'll cut you a deal, if you try and post something that makes sense. i'll try not to point out how stupid it is. deal? im sorry but i feel you are trying to avoid my argument because you know i am right by saying I dont make sense or that you simply are too challenged by it. So i wont accept your offer to reengage into an argument and waste time over matters that are already settled. p.s. you are fired. you mean, that jumble of letters was an argument? damn, really? oh man... yes really, im sorry you didnt get it but i dont have time to reformulate it for you... youll just have to go out empty handed.... sorry bro.
my hands are as empty as the content of this thread.
on the bright side, at least the list of viable battlecruisers isn't as empty as it used to be.
Obvious Goon alt that's never mined a day in his life(!) |
Moponi Mekaelth
Runs With Scissors
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Posted - 2013.02.22 10:52:00 -
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SoOza N'GasZ wrote:Hurricane nerfing is a Sin.
first off whats the point in buying different ships if they are all pretty much equal within a tier..... just because of the race we chose at the beginning of the game?
And why cant we in balancing terms simply respect eve for what it is (to an extent that still works of course) without god constantly changing epic things that where for years, into completely medicore soso bits of metal?
The epicness of now nerfed ships where what defined that part of eve ... ccp is constantly working to make eve flat in my opinion.
This. |
Gluthor
Black Rain Cartel
Heart 0f Darkness
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Posted - 2013.02.22 10:53:00 -
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SoOza N'GasZ wrote:
so now you are saying the hurricane was the only ship people ever flew in game? ok.....
and you think that all cars on earth should have very similar performance specifications in order to create diversity?
why do some people then buy an audi and others a vw with 50 Bhp less?
more diversity means things are more different.
The Hurricane and drake were by far the most popular two battlecrusiers,
and all cars in the same class do have similar performance
diversity means having a choice, under the old system the only choice was the hurricane or drake, there was little diversity ! |
SoOza N'GasZ
Geese Jugglers
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Posted - 2013.02.22 10:53:00 -
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Kate stark wrote:
my hands are as empty as the content of this thread.
on the bright side, at least the list of viable battlecruisers isn't as empty as it used to be.
yes you are right and the list of outstanding ships has lessend a little... yet so is life.
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Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
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Posted - 2013.02.22 10:56:00 -
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Kate stark wrote:
my hands are as empty as the content of this thread.
on the bright side, at least the list of viable battlecruisers isn't as empty as it used to be.
A bit of pain now while we adjust, but looks like a happier future for BC pilots |
Kate stark
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Posted - 2013.02.22 10:57:00 -
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SoOza N'GasZ wrote:Kate stark wrote:
my hands are as empty as the content of this thread.
on the bright side, at least the list of viable battlecruisers isn't as empty as it used to be.
yes you are right and the list of outstanding ships has lessend a little... yet so is life.
by outstanding, you mean ships that really weren't balanced in any way shape or form? (that's rhetorical, by the way).
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SoOza N'GasZ
Geese Jugglers
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Posted - 2013.02.22 10:57:00 -
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Gluthor wrote:SoOza N'GasZ wrote:
so now you are saying the hurricane was the only ship people ever flew in game? ok.....
and you think that all cars on earth should have very similar performance specifications in order to create diversity?
why do some people then buy an audi and others a vw with 50 Bhp less?
more diversity means things are more different.
The Hurricane and drake were by far the most popular two battlecrusiers, and all cars in the same class do have similar performance diversity means having a choice, under the old system the only choice was the hurricane or drake, there was little diversity !
hmmmmmmmmmm diversity actually if u look it up in a dictionary does in NO way mean having a choice.
now because i know how eve forum trolls work this almost useless sentence for the eve forum community: No im not against having a choice -.-
'The Hurricane and drake were by far the most popular two battlecrusiers,' i agree with you on this.
'and all cars in the same class do have similar performance' this is true to some extent but only i would say to 70% there are cars in the same class and price range that stand out drasticly. There is for example a Nissan skyline for about 80k us that has as much horespower and tourque as a lamborghini murcielago. |
SoOza N'GasZ
Geese Jugglers
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Posted - 2013.02.22 10:58:00 -
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Kate stark wrote:SoOza N'GasZ wrote:Kate stark wrote:
my hands are as empty as the content of this thread.
on the bright side, at least the list of viable battlecruisers isn't as empty as it used to be.
yes you are right and the list of outstanding ships has lessend a little... yet so is life. by outstanding, you mean ships that really weren't balanced in any way shape or form? (that's rhetorical, by the way).
by outstanding i mean standing out as in ... far better than the others  you need to work on your vocabulary  |
Kate stark
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Posted - 2013.02.22 10:59:00 -
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Ruskarn Andedare wrote:Kate stark wrote:
my hands are as empty as the content of this thread.
on the bright side, at least the list of viable battlecruisers isn't as empty as it used to be.
A bit of pain now while we adjust, but looks like a happier future for BC pilots
except for the OP, who's going to eternally mourn their i-win ship since it's now properly balanced and they might have to learn to pvp properly without relying on a ship that wasn't balanced.
Obvious Goon alt that's never mined a day in his life(!) |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
2053
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Posted - 2013.02.22 10:59:00 -
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SoOza N'GasZ wrote:
and you think that all cars on earth should have very similar performance specifications in order to create diversity?
why do some people then buy an audi and others a vw with 50 Bhp less?
more diversity means things are more different.
So Audi and VW cost the same?
-á- All I really wanted was to build a castle among the stars - |
Kate stark
251
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Posted - 2013.02.22 11:00:00 -
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SoOza N'GasZ wrote:Kate stark wrote:SoOza N'GasZ wrote:Kate stark wrote:
my hands are as empty as the content of this thread.
on the bright side, at least the list of viable battlecruisers isn't as empty as it used to be.
yes you are right and the list of outstanding ships has lessend a little... yet so is life. by outstanding, you mean ships that really weren't balanced in any way shape or form? (that's rhetorical, by the way). by outstanding i mean standing out as in ... far better than the others you need to work on your vocabulary
i know what outstanding means, it just wasn't the correct word for the sentence.
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SoOza N'GasZ
Geese Jugglers
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Posted - 2013.02.22 11:01:00 -
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Kate stark wrote:SoOza N'GasZ wrote:Kate stark wrote:SoOza N'GasZ wrote:Kate stark wrote:
my hands are as empty as the content of this thread.
on the bright side, at least the list of viable battlecruisers isn't as empty as it used to be.
yes you are right and the list of outstanding ships has lessend a little... yet so is life. by outstanding, you mean ships that really weren't balanced in any way shape or form? (that's rhetorical, by the way). by outstanding i mean standing out as in ... far better than the others you need to work on your vocabulary i know what outstanding means, it just wasn't the correct word for the sentence.
in my case? |
Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
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Posted - 2013.02.22 11:01:00 -
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Don't play MMO's if you don't like changes.  |
SoOza N'GasZ
Geese Jugglers
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Posted - 2013.02.22 11:02:00 -
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Roime wrote:SoOza N'GasZ wrote:
and you think that all cars on earth should have very similar performance specifications in order to create diversity?
why do some people then buy an audi and others a vw with 50 Bhp less?
more diversity means things are more different.
So Audi and VW cost the same?
some times yes and sometimes no... but they have different models of cars and those that are listed in the same class can have far different specs
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Kate stark
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Posted - 2013.02.22 11:04:00 -
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SoOza N'GasZ wrote:in my case?
what about your case? is it brief? i like brief cases.
Obvious Goon alt that's never mined a day in his life(!) |
SoOza N'GasZ
Geese Jugglers
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Posted - 2013.02.22 11:05:00 -
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Kate stark wrote:SoOza N'GasZ wrote:in my case? what about your case? is it brief? i like brief cases.
where was outstanding the wrong word for a sentence |
Leper ofBacon
HELP GRANDMA SMASH HER LEGS IN
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Posted - 2013.02.22 11:08:00 -
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What's the point in diversity if some things are just objectively better than others? If something is just good in every situation the others will just be relegated and you have no diversity. Either that or you have an imagined diversity where people who don't know any better are piloting the worse ships and are at a major disadvantage. There are plenty of differences between the BC's now which will alter ingame situations.
It's still good in comparison to other BC but it just has less of that 'universal utility' that made it so much better. |
Kate stark
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Posted - 2013.02.22 11:08:00 -
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SoOza N'GasZ wrote:Kate stark wrote:SoOza N'GasZ wrote:in my case? what about your case? is it brief? i like brief cases. where was outstanding the wrong word for a sentence
this might be GD, but you're not that stupid....
are you?
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SoOza N'GasZ
Geese Jugglers
46
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Posted - 2013.02.22 11:10:00 -
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Kate stark wrote:SoOza N'GasZ wrote:Kate stark wrote:SoOza N'GasZ wrote:in my case? what about your case? is it brief? i like brief cases. where was outstanding the wrong word for a sentence this might be GD, but you're not that stupid.... are you?
i think i might be stupid ... what is a GD?
oh a general discussion... well i certainly think it is a pretty general discussion.
whats wrong with me being stupid are you gonna put me in a gas chamber? |
Kate stark
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Posted - 2013.02.22 11:16:00 -
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SoOza N'GasZ wrote:are you gonna put me in a gas chamber?
no, but i'll let you use my shower.
Obvious Goon alt that's never mined a day in his life(!) |
SoOza N'GasZ
Geese Jugglers
46
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Posted - 2013.02.22 11:19:00 -
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Leper ofBacon wrote:What's the point in diversity if some things are just objectively better than others? If something is just good in every situation the others will just be relegated and you have no diversity. Either that or you have an imagined diversity where people who don't know any better are piloting the worse ships and are at a major disadvantage. There are plenty of differences between the BC's now which will alter ingame situations.
It's still good in comparison to other BC but it just has less of that 'universal utility' that made it so much better.
I agree with you 100%
My only issue is I dont like ccp 'constantly' intervening with 'working' things because they kind of made eve what it was..... in a way if they want to be sincere in an artistic way then they have to respect an environments flaws as well as its strengths. This would need to be done in order to give eve credibility as a fictional but artisticly and immersively seen real world or universe. (in order to enjoy lord of the rings or alien, u have to believe its real for the duration of the film.
real world places also are not always perfectly balanced.
i agree this intervention makes sense yet it kinda makes eve a little less eve and a little more space simulation.
and i am sort of paying to play eve.... i mean.... it began as a place with hardly any rules... *small tear*
The point of diversity? to me it creates a greater sense of interest and variation. |
SoOza N'GasZ
Geese Jugglers
46
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Posted - 2013.02.22 11:19:00 -
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Kate stark wrote:SoOza N'GasZ wrote:are you gonna put me in a gas chamber? no, but i'll let you use my shower.
thank you. |
Kate stark
251
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Posted - 2013.02.22 11:23:00 -
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SoOza N'GasZ wrote:Kate stark wrote:SoOza N'GasZ wrote:are you gonna put me in a gas chamber? no, but i'll let you use my shower. thank you.
you're welcome.
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Punctator
Billionaires Club
The Unthinkables
12
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Posted - 2013.02.22 11:23:00 -
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suported.
and i can only say - SPACE is not a place where buffers should have job.
I AM SPACE BUFFER
and this is only one of the thones idiotic things there are in this game.
and what you ccp do about that?
change some parameters in database to "balance"?
epic fail...
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CCP Gargant
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.02.22 11:25:00 -
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I am locking this thread as there are multiple feedback threads open on both the Features and Ideas forum and the official 1.1 feedback thread. There is no need to spread your feedback thin with other threads in other forums.
CCP Gargant | Community Representative | EVE Illuminati |
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