Like I said earlier, there were several of us arguing for this, but CCP doesn't want it because they're trying to get away from the "spider-web of individual flagging." Basically, it won't happen because it was supposedly confusing.

That is correct. The way Crimewatch 2.0 works, is that if anyone remotely assists (remote sebo, projected eccm, RR, etc) another player who:

A) Has a suspect timer
B) Is in a Limited Engagement
C) Is in a different corp and alliance than the RR ship, is at war, and has a PVP flag
D) Is an outlaw (in HS)

will gain a suspect flag (if set yellow), regardless of their own flagging at the time of rep.

If the RR assists someone who is set criminal, the RR ship will gain a criminal flag.

What? No.
Logi inherits the flag of the person they're assisting. They only get a suspect timer if the person they're assisting is suspect, they get LE if the person they're engaging has LE, they get a weapons flag if the person they're engaging has a weapons flag, etc.

With the exception of outlaw, which isn't strictly a flag. I believe aiding outlaws gets you a suspect flag.

In any case if you're logi and worried about going suspect in HS, keep your safety set to green. Problem solved.

What? No.
Logi inherits the flag of the person they're assisting. They only get a suspect timer if the person they're assisting is suspect, they get LE if the person they're engaging has LE, they get a weapons flag if the person they're engaging has a weapons flag, etc.

With the exception of outlaw, which isn't strictly a flag. I believe aiding outlaws gets you a suspect flag.

What? No.
Logi inherits the flag of the person they're assisting. They only get a suspect timer if the person they're assisting is suspect, they get LE if the person they're engaging has LE, they get a weapons flag if the person they're engaging has a weapons flag, etc.

With the exception of outlaw, which isn't strictly a flag. I believe aiding outlaws gets you a suspect flag.

In any case if you're logi and worried about going suspect in HS, keep your safety set to green. Problem solved.

I completely agree that having drones on auto aggro is hugely useful (particularly if they have ECM on the field), and I personally have them set to that. The difference is that I only put out my drones when I fully plan to use them and do so knowing I'll likely pick up timers for it.

From what I saw yesterday on the 4-4 undock, you guys had Garde IIs chilling so you could put lots of dps down on people in a hurry. In that instance, you probably should set your drones to passive if you don't want the LEs/weapons timers from criminals.

I'm was aware of the dangers when doing it. What I did not suspect was that someone went and "abused" it in order to get a kill (on a dessie no less lol).

I think I've come to the conclusion that the real problem here is drones auto aggroing something that gives you an engagement timer (it being suspect or LE). Perhaps CCP should look into drones not engaging targets that would give you a flag when safety is set to green, whereas they do that when safety are set yellow (and red is then reserved for "going full ******" / willfully being concorded in hisec).

He was talking to our new friends, Whores in space, who dec'd us yesterday, presumably over this thread.

As you can see, it's working out quite well for them.

Oh God. That Mega. I'm jealous.

The issue is that an "automated" feature supplied by CCP can give you a limited engagement timer which can then be "exploited" and was in this instance "exploited". Whether or not its OK to use it like this is up to CCP.

Some dude on the 4-4 undock scooped the loot.

Need a hug?

Some dude on the 4-4 undock scooped the loot.