We know closing the last Highsec Incursion was not a perfect idea, but it was an idea.
DIN apologizes to all Incursioncommunities except ISN.

We now found a better way to prevent ISN-Fleets from making money.
The new way will only impact on the actual ISN-Fleetmembers.

Back to the tears :)

the only tears I see are DIN tears. They can't win so they have to blob it up and make no isk

I heard u've been losing some ships and pods lately. Can't imagine why! You are such a charming guy.

I am aware that you were targeted for a gank, and I am also aware that nobody in ISN agreed to be part of it, so take your persecution complex to a thread that cares.

Any animosity you have earned you have brought on yourself, and the dificulties you are having with Incursions is 100% self inflicted.

And no I don't spend 1.8 billion per site lost, but since your so in tune with ISN's command channel comunications and chats it would seem we are more important to you, than you are to us.

I am aware that you were targeted for a gank, and I am also aware that nobody in ISN agreed to be part of it, so take your persecution complex to a thread that cares.

Omniscience (pron.: /+Æm-ên+¬-â+Öns/[1]), mainly in religion, is the capacity to know everything that there is to know.

The flaw in your argument is your assumption that the only way to win a conflict is to make ISK. Perhaps, despite being in Rote Kapelle, you've never heard of the strategy of "asset denial". You should google it while you contemplate the following quotation:

"He who can destroy a thing, can control a thing."
Franklin Patrick Herbert Jr.

ISN prides itself on two things: One, maximized ISK-making efficiency. Two, winning contests and extracting tears.

DIN's willingness to sacrifice a bit of ISK efficiency crushes ISN's ability to do either, and has caused a 180 shift in tear direction. And the only downside is a temporary "diminishing returns" caused by spreading the usual amount of ISK around to more players.

If it wasn't working, ISN wouldn't be using gank fleets against DIN FCs. If it wasn't working, this tears thread wouldn't even exist.

Wow, let's all pause for a moment and admire the sheer arrogance it takes to make that statement.



Goldiiee is claiming to know the mind of every pilot that flies with ISN. He is, in other words, claiming omniscience. In his mind it is simply not possible for even a single ISN pilot to agree to be part of a gank without him knowing about it.

Taking this a step farther, this statement was not made in a vacuum. To the contrary, chat logs, corp histories, money trails, and a common-sense understanding of the situation implicate only one party: ISN. But despite all this, goldiiee's steadfast belief in his own omniscience and ability to control every single ISN pilot endures.

So he's a megalomaniac, or a liar, or ... maybe it's just the drugs?

It's not easy being God, :)

Oh thats why ISN started it in assaultsites?
because they are to uber pro?

ISN showed up in assaultsites up to 26 pilots to ensure ISN win :) but its ok.

moar tears please.

Oh thats why ISN started it in assaultsites?
because they are to uber pro?

ISN showed up in assaultsites up to 26 pilots to ensure ISN win :) but its ok.

moar tears please.

What I don't understand is that there are more than VG system under incursion at a time, why not just go where ISN is not operating at that time.. imagine that .. everyone wins. I do know when ISN gets more active member they will move to do HQ's instead of trying to "own" 2 systems... just a thought.. use it.. don't use.. whatever..

having flown with both ISN and DIN (until ISN banned me, that is) ive seen and sometimes even flown with ISN when they contested other fleets out of the system, both with and without overloading number on grid.

I dont understand why ISN is complaining about someone else doing the same thing :\

No.

TIG has never had problems with ISN. Occasionally we had to move because they pop the mom early, which is a **** move on occasion, we agree on that, but DIN is known to kill only highsec incursion mom just to put it up to ISN.

So on one side we have ISN making inconvenience to other incursion groups.
On the other side we had DIN drawing some lines and acting space police killing the last mom and making it impossible for other channels to run.

That is one of the main reason why TIG stays in the shadows, doesn't get involved in any of your crap epen tournaments and doesn't want to have anything to do with any of you.

I'm not here to troll or defend ISN, and as you can see from my post its not like we like them to much, just saying that DIN isn't anything better, its prolly even worse. Not to mention TVP in this ocassion who is also known to kill of last highsec incursion just to show it to the ISN.

So there you go, TIG will not grief ISN or anybody else, nor anybody gave right to DIN or anybody else to ask on forums for somebody to grief anybody else.

I would propose however you simply grow up?

What?!?!!?!?!