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kessah	Posted - 2005.08.03 23:34:00 - [1] Edited by: kessah on 03/08/2005 23:34:57 Log on tactics i know G are well known for this but 2 megas a tempest a deimos a cyclone, malediction, crow, taranis and afew other squares i didnt catch just to log on in ec- and gank my lone dominix? I found it amusing and worthwhile to lose and see that you'd go to such extremes to kill "one" battleship, losing my ship to show That G and catacylsm enterprise used such a blantent exploitation of game mechanics was definetly worth it. For shame. How is this any different than the log off tactic but in reverse? Next time i shall have it frapsed and hopefully CCP shall take note of this problem and some how address it. --------------------------------------------------------
Jasmine Constantine	Posted - 2005.08.03 23:39:00 - [2] Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 03/08/2005 23:39:27 holy overkill batman! you must have scared em pretty bad Kesseh "Every act of creation is first an act of destruction."
Balistic Void	Posted - 2005.08.03 23:40:00 - [3] Edited by: Balistic Void on 03/08/2005 23:39:50 Are you sure they logged on? You have all of G and CE in your addressbook? Sure they didn't insta in from a safe in torrinos close to the ec gate?
Tamora	Posted - 2005.08.03 23:42:00 - [4] ibtl
kessah	Posted - 2005.08.03 23:43:00 - [5] i had alts checking both gates both in covert ops. was not possible to have such a mass of players on top of me within such a short time of agressing. its 48au from torri gate to ewok and approx the same to GM gate --------------------------------------------------------
MacDuncan	Posted - 2005.08.04 00:17:00 - [6] Edited by: MacDuncan on 04/08/2005 00:19:47 Originally by: kessah Edited by: kessah on 04/08/2005 00:11:35 And there was only 6 in local including me and the other kr0m alts i might add. Ahem....i wasn't there (sadly) but.....if there're just 6 in local, including you and you're 2 alts, how can there be such a "force" gank your ship? I just don't get it?? Edited for spelling 4tw. --
Vlandarr	Posted - 2005.08.04 00:19:00 - [7] Originally by: MacDuncan Originally by: kessah Edited by: kessah on 04/08/2005 00:11:35And there was only 6 in local including me and the other kr0m alts i might add. Ahem....i wasn't there (unlukily) but.....if there're just 6 in local, including ypou and you're 2 alts, how can there be such a "force" gank your ship? I just don't get it?? I pointed out the imprtant parts in bold Quote: G, CE and log on tactics
Zarthanon	Posted - 2005.08.04 00:22:00 - [8] I know BoB used to do this on a regular basis. They would see the enemy numbers if they outnumbered them, and would log off however many to give the enemy a false sense of even-ness. Then have the loged off people sit at their login screen and wait until the engagement happened. This happened at least twice when I was in Deviance. It was like 13 of our BS vs 13 of theirs. We just wanted a fight, so we engaged. Ended up turning into a 19vs13 and as the FRAPS showed the 6 extra BS coming in from all different directions. And I don't belive that CCP "officially" labels this as an exploit, at least as far as I've seen. Originally by: ParMizaN i mayv or may nit abe a bit drunk Originally by: Buddrow TO THETR DRUMNBS OF WAR WET GHO
TWD	Posted - 2005.08.04 00:28:00 - [9] Originally by: Zarthanon I know BoB used to do this on a regular basis. They would see the enemy numbers if they outnumbered them, and would log off however many to give the enemy a false sense of even-ness. Then have the loged off people sit at their login screen and wait until the engagement happened. This happened at least twice when I was in Deviance. It was like 13 of our BS vs 13 of theirs. We just wanted a fight, so we engaged. Ended up turning into a 19vs13 and as the FRAPS showed the 6 extra BS coming in from all different directions. And I don't belive that CCP "officially" labels this as an exploit, at least as far as I've seen. Yeah when you can't imagine another explanation it must be a logon trap !
Darkrydar	Posted - 2005.08.04 00:31:00 - [10] Yep, no suprise to me. OMG, WE'RE UBER (POS KILLS for the nubs)
kessah	Posted - 2005.08.04 00:34:00 - [11] Edited by: kessah on 04/08/2005 00:35:39 Originally by: MacDuncan Edited by: MacDuncan on 04/08/2005 00:19:47 Originally by: kessah Edited by: kessah on 04/08/2005 00:11:35 And there was only 6 in local including me and the other kr0m alts i might add. Ahem....i wasn't there (sadly) but.....if there're just 6 in local, including you and you're 2 alts, how can there be such a "force" gank your ship? I just don't get it?? Edited for spelling 4tw. yes thats my point - logging on in combat. from 6 in local to near 15 within seconds of agressing the deimos. i know they didnt come from torrinos becus not only did i have a scout there also, the megas were above (not from the gates) the gate 100km away. There really is no point in denial G are well known for using this exploit, i remember you using this against BoB when i fought with them You'd come down in a gank fleet when bob had u cornered ud log off - log back on again when there were minmal resistence and gank bob and retake the stations on the low periods. Look i dont care about my loss, but youve been caught out yet again for using this exploit - Stop it. Clean up your act and play properly - If you cant win without using this exploit then u have no place in the pvp community. Winning isnt everything Guys dont you get a buzz of just playing fair and knowing that when u do kill you win by skill and fair play? --------------------------------------------------------
Darko1107	Posted - 2005.08.04 00:38:00 - [12] Oh Shutup, KROM talking about exploits. What a ******* joke. If your so disgusted by G's so called "exploits" maybe you need to have a word with Phonix. And im pretty sure G just pwned you fair and square with a bait diemos then thier fleet jumping in from ewok. You got so excited that you ddint even notice local explode and before you knew it you had a G fleet ganking your ass. Jeez.
Darko1107	Posted - 2005.08.04 00:40:00 - [13] Wtf? Ive never been banned.
Tiberius Caesar	Posted - 2005.08.04 00:40:00 - [14] Originally by: Darko1107 Oh Shutup, KROM talking about exploits. What a ******* joke. If your so disgusted by G's so called "exploits" maybe you need to have a word with Phonix. And im pretty sure G just pwned you fair and square with a bait diemos then thier fleet jumping in from ewok. You got so excited that you ddint even notice local explode and before you knew it you had a G fleet ganking your ass. Jeez. Fishing for another ban?
Blacklight	Posted - 2005.08.04 00:41:00 - [15] To be honest I find this quite difficult to believe. It's not G's style at all. Eve Blacklight Style
WOTANKN	Posted - 2005.08.04 00:42:00 - [16] I was part of the group that attacked you. - I logged in - got a ganginvite - warped to engaging spot - waited 3min before you even agressed the deimos killed you after that - thank you if you cant handle the heat in 0.0 - plz stay in jump range to torrinos, like the rest of your crew
kessah	Posted - 2005.08.04 00:45:00 - [17] Originally by: Darko1107 Oh Shutup, KROM talking about exploits. What a ******* joke. If your so disgusted by G's so called "exploits" maybe you need to have a word with Phonix. And im pretty sure G just pwned you fair and square with a bait diemos then thier fleet jumping in from ewok. You got so excited that you ddint even notice local explode and before you knew it you had a G fleet ganking your ass. Jeez. Bullsh1t my friend, bullsh1t, do not patronise me i dont get excited until i see the killmail im careful all the way until i see it flash, i dont jump into the most hostile system in eve without scouts. As for kr0m exploiting this is the first ive heard of it. i dont assume to know everything about the past of all our member. But this was a very overt exploit being used by a large portion of the corp. And id like it you'd reply in a professional manner. This is not the first time you have been accused of this. --------------------------------------------------------
Bigfood	Posted - 2005.08.04 00:47:00 - [18] k i was one of the pilots involved here and laid the final blow on your nice domi and i just made some ingame screenies of it couse if i post it here u will say it got manipulated Part 1 Part 2 Part 3 and Part 4 sorry couse of the more screens but didnt manage to pick the full mail in one pic and now explain me pls how a heavy tanked dominix taken on 2 megathrons in kill mail where is the tempest and the cyclone u thought to see?
kessah	Posted - 2005.08.04 00:48:00 - [19] Originally by: WOTANKN I was part of the group that attacked you. - I logged in - got a ganginvite - warped to engaging spot - waited 3min before you even agressed the deimos killed you after that - thank you if you cant handle the heat in 0.0 - plz stay in jump range to torrinos, like the rest of your crew I expected such a response, i really do accept my death with good grace mostly - but this time guys... il make sure i have fraps running next time i assure u. Also on a lighter note il petitioned to CCP im sure they have a record of 5-10 CE member logging on in the ec- system. Il hope they will share there records with the whole community --------------------------------------------------------
Darko1107	Posted - 2005.08.04 00:53:00 - [20] Originally by: kessah Originally by: Darko1107 Oh Shutup, KROM talking about exploits. What a ***** joke. If your so disgusted by G's so called "exploits" maybe you need to have a word with Phonix. And im pretty sure G just pwned you fair and square with a bait diemos then thier fleet jumping in from ewok. You got so excited that you ddint even notice local explode and before you knew it you had a G fleet ganking your ass. Jeez. Bullsh1t my friend, bullsh1t, do not patronise me i dont get excited until i see the killmail im careful all the way until i see it flash, i dont jump into the most hostile system in eve without scouts. As for kr0m exploiting this is the first ive heard of it. i dont assume to know everything about the past of all our member. But this was a very overt exploit being used by a large portion of the corp. And id like it you'd reply in a professional manner. This is not the first time you have been accused of this. I give up. Some1 who just calls my opinions bull** while trying to avoid the swear filter tells me that I should be replying in a professional manner. G didnt do this, they have never done this, and they never will do this. I think you need to open your eyes to the fact that you might be mistaken, and look at other ways in which you may have been killed, instead of throwing false accusations around, as blacklight said, its not in there style. And its against forum rules to talk about exploits, which is why i told you to have a word with phonix.
kessah	Posted - 2005.08.04 00:53:00 - [21] Originally by: Bigfood k i was one of the pilots involved here and laid the final blow on your nice domi and i just made some ingame screenies of it couse if i post it here u will say it got manipulated Part 1 Part 2 Part 3 and Part 4 sorry couse of the more screens but didnt manage to pick the full mail in one pic and now explain me pls how a heavy tanked dominix taken on 2 megathrons in kill mail where is the tempest and the cyclone u thought to see? there was a cyclone and a 3rd bs i believe to be a tempest i did not have chance to see becus i was dead within a very short time im sure they did not manage to pull a shot off, jumping in aligning and travelling 48au take time bud. Anyway enuf your obviously goin to play innocent. --------------------------------------------------------
Cmd Woodlouse	Posted - 2005.08.04 01:02:00 - [22] Ok, to make it simple for you, cause im tired of this crap: Christo (Deimos) Serdarxxx (Crow) and Bigfood (Megathron) were sitting at a Safespot in EC. Omnioram was in Torrinos at Engagespot (Taranis). THESE GUYS HAVE ALL BEEN ONLINE FOR ABOUT 1 HOUR ATLEAST! The only guy logging in was WOTANKN who logged out a few mins before, cause he was bored. As he heard on TS that maybe some action will come along, he logged back in again. Christo acted then as a bait and u lost ur heavily tanked dominix. Thats all. And no, we dont use login traps. CE alone did in the past when we were in PA fighting FU heavily outnumbered. It wasnt a nice tactic and we are not proud of it. But thats way back in the past. Hell if only we could get some proper enemies. Why have u left, Bob? -G- Pink Power
Petite Pierre	Posted - 2005.08.04 01:17:00 - [23] The magic words pending here are "Flamebait, Click.". -------------------- "With Bart, we laugh to keep the bile down. With Bugs, we just laughed."
OVERCOPES 1	Posted - 2005.08.04 01:20:00 - [24] Originally by: kessah Edited by: kessah on 04/08/2005 00:03:55 Log on tactics i know G are well known for this but 2 megas a tempest a deimos a cyclone, malediction, crow, taranis and afew other squares i didnt catch just to log on in ec- and gank my lone dominix? I found it amusing and worthwhile to lose and see that you'd go to such extremes to kill "one" battleship, losing my ship to show That G and catacylsm enterprise used such a blantent exploitation of game mechanics was definetly worth it. For shame. How is this any different than the log off tactic but in reverse? Next time i shall have it frapsed and hopefully CCP shall take note of this problem and some how address it. Im sure G dont need to use these tactics, there ment to be good im told? Im rteally sure [G] need to do log in traps against a nubin like you. Mods plz lock,this is flame bait from someone who has no skill. But obvisouly craves attention. Im a real wiltshire headbanger,generally getting podded whilst comatozed on cider. i mayv or may nit abe a bit drunk-parMizan.
Avatar Ashlee	Posted - 2005.08.04 01:25:00 - [25] Originally by: Darko1107 Oh Shutup, KROM talking about exploits. What a ******* joke. If your so disgusted by G's so called "exploits" maybe you need to have a word with Phonix. And im pretty sure G just pwned you fair and square with a bait diemos then thier fleet jumping in from ewok. You got so excited that you ddint even notice local explode and before you knew it you had a G fleet ganking your ass. Jeez. Thanks for pointing out how much the north sucks.
TWD	Posted - 2005.08.04 01:30:00 - [26] Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Why have u left, Bob? Doh ! You do know our HQ is only 21 jumps from your HQ?
Cmd Woodlouse	Posted - 2005.08.04 01:45:00 - [27] Originally by: Avatar Ashlee Originally by: Darko1107 Oh Shutup, KROM talking about exploits. What a ******* joke. If your so disgusted by G's so called "exploits" maybe you need to have a word with Phonix. And im pretty sure G just pwned you fair and square with a bait diemos then thier fleet jumping in from ewok. You got so excited that you ddint even notice local explode and before you knew it you had a G fleet ganking your ass. Jeez. Thanks for pointing out how much the north sucks. This points only out how much alts suck. And yeah TWD, maybe soon [tm] -G- Pink Power
The Enslaver	Posted - 2005.08.04 02:07:00 - [28] I'd have thought that G pulling logon traps was common knowledge by now... -------- FireFoxx80: If you think you can do a better job, go find yourself a datacentre to host a box, get a copy of Visual Studio, and STFU.
kessah	Posted - 2005.08.04 02:09:00 - [29] yes your right enslaver im sorry for stating the obvious. i never saw it with my own eyes b4 it was masterful. --------------------------------------------------------
DUFFMANX	Posted - 2005.08.04 02:37:00 - [30] Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse "Also on a lighter note il petitioned to CCP im sure they have a record of 5-10 CE member logging on in the ec- system. Il hope they will share there records with the whole community" I hope that u will post your apology here after CCP resolved this by finding out that only WOTANKN logged back in. So we can take it this is an admission of attempted log on trap and so that particular pilot will be banned Go get them Kessah
Lorth	Posted - 2005.08.04 02:41:00 - [31] To be frank, I have a pretty strong dislike for the way G fights. Lets just say they would be one of the best pvp forces around if they only took some risks, sadly they don't, and I really detest that. But I have never seen them use 'exploits' to gain and advantage. No convo spamming, gang invites, or log in traps. Not to say that it might not happen, every allience has its share of nit-wits. But I personally would be hesitent to label the whole allience with that banner.
Cmd Woodlouse	Posted - 2005.08.04 02:42:00 - [32] Originally by: DUFFMANX Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse "Also on a lighter note il petitioned to CCP im sure they have a record of 5-10 CE member logging on in the ec- system. Il hope they will share there records with the whole community" I hope that u will post your apology here after CCP resolved this by finding out that only WOTANKN logged back in. So we can take it this is an admission of attempted log on trap and so that particular pilot will be banned Go get them Kessah No a bored pilot logging back in and staying ingame for about 4 minutes total until the initial engagement occures... No And leave my WOTANKN -G- Pink Power
kessah	Posted - 2005.08.04 03:20:00 - [33] dude there really was no more than 6 in local with me 2 were krom alts, one local was a pod, and the other was a friendly Doom corp member Tiberias Black i believe, who also said u did a mass log on and petitioned you lot aswell. Now if u can explain how within 20secs how 2 megas a handful of ceptors and i do remember seeing a cyclone and apoc\tempest could have been that ajain guy or what ever he's called, managed to jump in align and warp to me from either ewok or GM id like to hear it. i know one ceptor came in from torrinos cus my corpie said so but that still doesnt explain the rest. I wont throw mud anymore ive said my bit my conclusion is log on exploit, your alliance is known for it you yourself admit that, i didnt see your name in local so are you 100% your pilots are not lying? i dont expect you to tell me in this thread but be 100% about it. If im wrong about this then i will without shame appologise. But im nearly 100% convienced. ive never seen such a mass upon me so fast in there sniper posistions Im done now, forgotten now with me. Just wana play eve. anyways lock away. --------------------------------------------------------
Serdarxxx	Posted - 2005.08.04 03:28:00 - [34] Edited by: Serdarxxx on 04/08/2005 03:28:48 pls kessah stop lie here, i was 368km from the gate our 2 megas was at attack spot arjun was at pos and christo was the one that attack you at the gate an then they all warp in jump from both gates in. i have a fraps of it i need just one to host it. keep it real. my english is to bad sorry
Nira Li	Posted - 2005.08.04 03:31:00 - [35] Originally by: Serdarxxx Edited by: Serdarxxx on 04/08/2005 03:28:48 pls kessah stop lie here, i was 368km from the gate our 2 megas was at attack spot arjun was at pos and christo was the one that attack you at the gate an then they all warp in jump from both gates in. i have a fraps of it i need just one to host it. keep it real. my english is to bad sorry eve-files is your friend You Will Cry My Name Dies Irae Dies Illa Solvet Cosmos In Favilla Vocamus Te Aeshma-Diva
Cmd Woodlouse	Posted - 2005.08.04 03:39:00 - [36] Originally by: Serdarxxx Edited by: Serdarxxx on 04/08/2005 03:28:48 pls kessah stop lie here, i was 368km from the gate our 2 megas was at attack spot arjun was at pos and christo was the one that attack you at the gate an then they all warp in jump from both gates in. i have a fraps of it i need just one to host it. keep it real. my english is to bad sorry i will host it. and dont tell me that my alliance is known for logon traps when even well known members of 5 and BoB cant confirm that. Normally i dont give a **** about this all but i dont like it, when my pilots are drown in the mud. I was on TS, when that all occured. They must have used a secret code then when they said "get to engagement spot from POS and prepare", infact that must mean "omgwtflogontogankapoorKROMmember". Give it a rest, cause i know it wasnt a login trap. -G- Pink Power
Serdarxxx	Posted - 2005.08.04 03:55:00 - [37] there it is, you see not much, but look self and look to the kill mail and then say me where are the log in trap Linkage
Hamatitio	Posted - 2005.08.04 05:42:00 - [38] I doubt you ever fought FU out numbered considering we had about 15 combat pilots. ------ Ham a Tee Tee Oh
Bobo Clown	Posted - 2005.08.04 05:46:00 - [39] Originally by: Darko1107 Oh Shutup, KROM talking about exploits. What a ******* joke. If your so disgusted by G's so called "exploits" maybe you need to have a word with Phonix. And im pretty sure G just pwned you fair and square with a bait diemos then thier fleet jumping in from ewok. You got so excited that you ddint even notice local explode and before you knew it you had a G fleet ganking your ass. Jeez. Please explain "Exploits" And name 1 that I have done please? As for humping [G]'s leg I would that would be a prime example
Kyle Caldrel	Posted - 2005.08.04 05:49:00 - [40] Darko, you accuse another northern alliance of exploits. Thats why you will always be pathetic. Learn to fight without sight.
Phonix	Posted - 2005.08.04 05:49:00 - [41] Damn Portrait Changes That last post was me -------------- We are back.
Orest	Posted - 2005.08.04 05:59:00 - [42] Originally by: kessah Edited by: kessah on 04/08/2005 00:03:55 Log on tactics i know G are well known for this but 2 megas a tempest a deimos a cyclone, malediction, crow, taranis and afew other squares i didnt catch just to log on in ec- and gank my lone dominix? I found it amusing and worthwhile to lose and see that you'd go to such extremes to kill "one" battleship, losing my ship to show That G and catacylsm enterprise used such a blantent exploitation of game mechanics was definetly worth it. For shame. How is this any different than the log off tactic but in reverse? Next time i shall have it frapsed and hopefully CCP shall take note of this problem and some how address it. Im sure G dont need to use these tactics, there ment to be good im told? You just dont't know how to loose. You want to be a feared pirate and all you establish is whinig on forums. Go mining. Orest
Orest	Posted - 2005.08.04 06:03:00 - [43] Edited by: Orest on 04/08/2005 06:03:31
Razor Jaxx	Posted - 2005.08.04 06:03:00 - [44] Personal opinion - this thread is retarded, and the 'sploit whines are stupid from both sides. G might have a combat style that is not always satisfying to the opposition, but I've never actually witnessed them using any exploits, and that would surprise me if they did, honestly.

Abdalion	Posted - 2005.08.04 07:27:00 - [45] Originally by: Petite Pierre The magic words pending here are "Flamebait, Click.". Wrong, I would say it is "discussing exploits, click". But for you, I will say Flamebait, Click. And to the original poster I would say, file a petition. The forums aren't the place for this. Click. -- I ♥ You.... ®


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