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Arx Nemesis	Posted - 2005.08.04 07:37:00 - [1] granted, veldspar is most common type and best tritanium source, but it's also most "not mined" roid, as such we have loads and loads of belts full of it but almost nothing else, yet, we have plenty of rare minerals available on markets but pyerite seems to be more rarer than mega or zyd. how about adding some pyerite into veldspar, say 1/2 of it trit amount so miners would be more interested striping it aswell and pyerite amounts would grow? ----------------------------------------- The price of freedom is eternal vigilance
ManOfHonor	Posted - 2005.08.04 16:34:00 - [2] yes to pry being added to veld ( KILL THE ASTEROIDS!!!! ) no to that huge bonus... im not a carebear, but maby the bonus's could be 5% and 15% or 10% and 15% get the miners to shuttup.... (i will admit yes there are plenty of PvP whiners..... but non combat whiners just seem pathetic ) _____________________________ NPC Asteroid Belt Bases Honor Above Self Glory For Self Strenght Of Self
Arx Nemesis	Posted - 2005.08.05 11:13:00 - [3] you misunderstood, im not whining, just wanting to see some real benefit to 3 levels of "quality". ----------------------------------------- The price of freedom is eternal vigilance
Nice View	Posted - 2005.08.05 14:28:00 - [4] Bad Idea..... Veldspar is the lowest quality ORE, why make it better than Scordite or even with it? I don't know were you mine but if you go to several of the systems my agent sends me or I mine the Veldspar is hit hard. Use to be the Veldspar roids were 60k-100k now your lucky to find them over 50k. With Dred's coming many are strip mining veldspar for all the tritanium they need. I also mine JUST Veldspar regularly since my corp needs a ton to build all our stuff, so we mine it regularly. Bad IDEA Just my 0.02 ISK
Kedo	Posted - 2005.08.05 15:19:00 - [5] The problem isn't that no one mines veldispar, the problem is HAVE YOU SEEN THE SIZE OF THOSE THINGS! Heres another problem. Why mine veld in low sec space when you can do it safely without much if any NPC rat or human rats in high security space? I suggest 90% of veld rocks in low sec space be converted to scorndite. -----------------------------------------------
CaptainSeafort	Posted - 2005.08.05 18:06:00 - [6] the thing about needing bigger mining bonuses is bull, really :/ 10% makes a hell of a lot of difference if you mine in any quantity. a jetcann of omber with basic refining skills will get you mebbe 2.5-2.8m. jetcann of golden omber with same skills make you 3.5-4m :P
Anub1s	Posted - 2005.08.06 08:02:00 - [7] Edited by: Anub1s on 06/08/2005 08:08:02 Originally by: ManOfHonor (i will admit yes there are plenty of PvP whiners..... but non combat whiners just seem pathetic ) e... one thing- HAHAHAAA... OMFG!!! stupid... PVP whiners is beter than non combat whiners, ***** big ego *** PVP, ** YOU
Del Narveux	Posted - 2005.08.06 12:49:00 - [8] Agreed with the ideas, we need more ore as well as something to deal with shortage of pyerite. Its a lot easier to get other minerals I need to build stuff than pyerite, which is a big pain in the ass. _________________ [SAK] And Proud Of It! aka Cpt Bogus Is that my torped sig cloaking your base?
Clementina	Posted - 2005.08.06 13:35:00 - [9] Edited by: Clementina on 06/08/2005 13:36:38 I don't think they need to add Pyrite to veldspar. The reason being tradition, Veldspar is supposed to be the duce of rocks, the lowlyist of roids. When you insult a miner, you tell him to go mine veldspar; when you speak derisivly of mining, no matter what security space the mining takes place in, you talk about mining veldspar. Also if veldspar wasn't so worthless, there wouldn't be those charming veldspar moons in 0.0. And imagine the joy that a newbie feels when he figures out the scrodite is the rock of high-sec champions, not veldspar. I think they need to keep veldspar in it's proper place, for the culture of the game.
Danton Marcellus	Posted - 2005.08.06 14:54:00 - [10] Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 06/08/2005 14:56:27 No but why not add the odd cache of moon materials into veldspar, pockets of it giving you trace amount of them, very little is the key. Possibility of said pockets being present depending on the richness of veldpar. This coming with a warning to noobs that the unstable pockets in contact with a mining laser might cause an explosion, much like from mining mercoxit. Something to help discourage macromining veldspar some? [23]
Daniel Jackson	Posted - 2005.08.06 15:50:00 - [11] Edited by: Daniel Jackson on 06/08/2005 15:51:19 Originally by: Danton Marcellus Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 06/08/2005 14:56:27 No but why not add the odd cache of moon materials into veldspar, pockets of it giving you trace amount of them, very little is the key. Possibility of said pockets being present depending on the richness of veldpar. This coming with a warning to noobs that the unstable pockets in contact with a mining laser might cause an explosion, much like from mining mercoxit. Something to help discourage macromining veldspar some? well heres the thing, if they add that then noone will mine velds phar and dust, tritanium will become very expensive, ooo how youd you like buying like 7mil trit for ahh lets say 10 isk a piece :) :P and the reason that hardky noone would mine it its because its the noobs and or the people who have mining barges, and both of the ships cant protect them selfs in damage clowds unles u have a support ship with you. Caldari will once again rise above the Gallente and take back Caldari Prime! Image done by Denrace
Kakita Jalaan	Posted - 2005.08.06 16:27:00 - [12] Originally by: CaptainSeafort the thing about needing bigger mining bonuses is bull, really :/ 10% makes a hell of a lot of difference if you mine in any quantity. a jetcann of omber with basic refining skills will get you mebbe 2.5-2.8m. jetcann of golden omber with same skills make you 3.5-4m :P The difference between your numbers is about 40%, not 10. ______________ Haulers wanted!
Glarion Garnier	Posted - 2005.08.07 22:40:00 - [13] Edited by: Glarion Garnier on 07/08/2005 22:44:43 I would rather see some new levels of ores. Like rare versions that have special mixtures in them. LIke PlagioVeld wich is fusion Of Veldspar + Plagioclase new graphic and all, has 80% trit 10% pye 10% mex, Ice crystalled Kernite would contain Ice isotopes (requires new kind of special crystals) Or why not make Density value for Ores. There could be even rare veld roids that have like super heavy consentration level 50% more trit over standard found only from 0.0 etc. LIke density range of 1%-200% density scale. Asteroid scanning could be a new profession etc.
Smart Bomb	Posted - 2005.08.08 01:51:00 - [14] Mine Scordite and stop whining
Clayburn	Posted - 2005.08.11 16:55:00 - [15] Wow. People really don't think about veldspar much. Ok. Average value of tritanium is about 3ISK per unit. Thats 3 times its original base value. The reason why it's so expensive is exactly because no one mines veldspar. These days, mining veldspar is like mining ISK. Everyone needs trit, and its not hard to get rid of. Its actually getting to the point to where the ISK/hour formula makes veldspar worth more than some of the other ore types. Though adding trace amounts of pyerite wouldn't hurt it any. Instead of what, 1000 units of trit per refine? make it 990 trit and 10 pye per refine. Nothing too extreme.
Miner Tramp	Posted - 2005.08.12 15:20:00 - [16] Well I like that no one mines Veldspar.... I do all the time and the other day someone needed 9mil Tritanium and I sold him all for a 27.18 mil. I mine it all the time since it mines fast (if you mined it you would know this) and at 3 - 3.2 ISK each I make good money. I can make ISK pretty fast Mining Veldspar, I got to system were someone wants large amounts start mining with a Barge and Hauler all the nice roids and in a few hours I have millions of Tritanium for sale a top prices! There is many other problems that need addressing this is just stupid.

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