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Ris Dnalor
L'Avant Garde
Happy Endings
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Posted - 2013.02.27 04:09:00 -
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so wait. -- correct me if I have this wrong --
Pilot scans down an old shipwreck.
Exit ship & pod to go exploring, leaving ship/pod vulnerable, right?
So I scan down the same wreck, cloak, wait, then kill the guys ship/pod.
What happens to the guy?
Is he stuck in the wreck?
Can he pay me to haul his butt back to a station?
Can I jettison him out the airlock and watch his corpse freeze as his consciousness transports to his new clone?
Can he self-destruct his body if not?
Have we given any consideration to how this will interact on a fundamental level with eve? If we have, then why not mention it?
If they can just magically appear where they want to go, and the pod pilots can't even attempt to interact or interfere --- or bombard the place the other folks are exploring, then what's the point? It's all well and good to have this interact with the market, but please be sure to let it interact with gameplay, and make it make sense with the eve lore, please.
also, open the doors on CQ, and give us trip wires and hand-grenades. We'll make our own content. srlsy.
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EvE = Everybody Vs. Everybody
- Qolde |
Orlacc
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Posted - 2013.02.27 04:13:00 -
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I do love shrooms. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
4065
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Posted - 2013.02.27 04:15:00 -
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How are we supposed to answer a question about game mechanics that don't exist?
And EVE isn't "Everybody vs. Everybody". I don't get why people say that but it's false and it sounds stupid.
Malcanis for CSM 8
Phrases like "you can't nerf / buff X EVE is a Sandbox" have the same amount of meaning as "If this is a sack of potatoes then you can not carrot." - Alara IonStorm |
Ai Shun
886
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Posted - 2013.02.27 04:21:00 -
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Ris Dnalor wrote:So I scan down the same wreck, cloak, wait, then kill the guys ship/pod.
I'm guessing they'll wake up in a Medical Lab. But you are pointing at one of the large flaws in the current plans for WiS; that disconnect created between the immortal clone-in-goop captain of an interstellar ship and the monkey with a stick that goes exploring a dark orifice.
EVE Ambulation and Avatars as a separate game - see here |
Juniorama
State War Academy
Caldari State
74
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Posted - 2013.02.27 04:54:00 -
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You should ask the RP's in Eve Fiction. |
Luc Chastot
Gentleman's Corp
230
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Posted - 2013.02.27 06:34:00 -
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"Self-destruct his body", good one. Some people call it "suicide".
Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot. |
Ris Dnalor
L'Avant Garde
Happy Endings
461
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Posted - 2013.02.27 06:39:00 -
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Luc Chastot wrote:"Self-destruct his body", good one. Some people call it "suicide".
+1 on your signature as well.
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- Qolde |
Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
63
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Posted - 2013.02.27 09:16:00 -
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Ris Dnalor wrote: Questions over questions, all of signifficant philosophical value.
There's supersoldier superimplants for superimmortal out of capsule superclonses. Buy one for Yourself, cloak up Your ship, transfer consciousness to exploration clone, explore & explode ... profit.
At least that's how I imagine it would be doable, but then I've been told that my imagination tends to run wild at times.
There's nothing a million chinese guys can't do cheaper. |
Princess Saskia
Hyperfleet Industries
xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
74
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Posted - 2013.02.27 09:20:00 -
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I'd like to comment but like the idea's reffered in the OP it doesn't exist.
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Killboard
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Mike Whiite
Cupid Stunts.
Casoff
140
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Posted - 2013.02.27 12:33:00 -
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Although little is known, even if the the avatar project is still alive.
There should be rather easy ways to work arround this.
The leaving the ship part could be as easy as sending out a drone, that is connected to the Pod.
if ship gets aproached or hit pilot can disconect the drone and get back to ship view, fight of or flee, in wich case the comquret can finish the plex and collect an extra exploration drone while he's at it.
A fuel activated stasis cloak might be an solution as well, would hard cloak your ship (might need to be ankered to something and or totaly shut down [no visiual, or other info from the system] that can't be deactivated by aproach) so while out of your ship you force assialants to engage you out o the ship.
just to think about a solution or two . Not saying that is the case.
Most problems can be solved quite easy as long as you're willing. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
3644
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Posted - 2013.02.27 12:48:00 -
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New Exploration ship that drops you off and then goes a short distance away and cloaks, awaiting the recall order via remote iink. It could even be a new class of shuttle.
Call InterBus to send an automated Taxi to come pick you up. 
Suicide out of your already radiation riddled exploration clone to a jump clone.
The possibilities are vast.
To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors.
If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
RAP ACTION HERO
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Posted - 2013.02.27 13:24:00 -
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well i would hope that new mechanics would allow one to eject from a cloaked ship, and have that ship remained cloaked while unpiloted.
have another guy drop off a shuttle for him?
vitoc erryday |
Sura Sadiva
Entropic Tactical Crew
315
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Posted - 2013.02.27 13:52:00 -
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Since we're talking about a non-exsiting feauture, it's just as brainstorm/free ideas, then:
- Exploration ship has a new module allowing to keep the systems active for a limited amount of time. Means it allows you to eject in your pod and leave the ship cloacked next to wreck you're exploring.
- This module has a limited duration. When the cycle is over the ship decloack and become a normal ababndoned ship, can be boarded or destoryed. So this module durationa lso give a time framework to complete the exploration.
- if your ship is stole or destoryed you have to come back in pod, if you can
- if you're killed inside the wreck is equivalent to get podded (respawn in the medical station)
- if your pod is destoryed when you're outside it exploring well, I supose the exploration suit will need a "self-destruct" option :) (respawn in your medical station).
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Sura Sadiva
Entropic Tactical Crew
315
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Posted - 2013.02.27 14:11:00 -
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or if you get stucked inside the wreck7structure with no pod to come back you can still wait for some other explorer to arrive and ambush him to steal his pod.
One could also settle communities living inside abbandoned structures with the sole purpose to ambush explorer
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Indahmawar Fazmarai
1165
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Posted - 2013.02.27 14:45:00 -
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Ris Dnalor wrote:so wait. -- correct me if I have this wrong --
Pilot scans down an old shipwreck.
Exit ship & pod to go exploring, leaving ship/pod vulnerable, right?
So I scan down the same wreck, cloak, wait, then kill the guys ship/pod.
What happens to the guy?
Is he stuck in the wreck?
Can he pay me to haul his butt back to a station?
Can I jettison him out the airlock and watch his corpse freeze as his consciousness transports to his new clone?
Can he self-destruct his body if not?
Have we given any consideration to how this will interact on a fundamental level with eve? If we have, then why not mention it?
If they can just magically appear where they want to go, and the pod pilots can't even attempt to interact or interfere --- or bombard the place the other folks are exploring, then what's the point? It's all well and good to have this interact with the market, but please be sure to let it interact with gameplay, and make it make sense with the eve lore, please.
also, open the doors on CQ, and give us trip wires and hand-grenades. We'll make our own content. srlsy.
Your answer, thank you.
EVE is Serious Business: You shall not feel entitled to being allowed to play EVE just because you are paying it. |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
1642
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Posted - 2013.02.27 16:28:00 -
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CCP looked at options for "wreck diving". They were: You go in. Your clone goes in. A crew member goes in. For the last two cases you are still in your ship, so if it gets attacked you deal with it as you always do. In the first case, yes your ship could be lost or stolen. In high sec such an attempt would be blocked or call CONCORD (unless there is a war). In low, null, or W you better have friends who stay in space to guard you. If your ship is lost your options are have a friend deliver a new one, or suicide out.
I actually think the "you go in" option would be best. If you do not want the risk, wreck dive in high sec and accept the smaller rewards.
http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
2510
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Posted - 2013.02.27 17:43:00 -
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Wild speculation and rage about a game mechanic that isnt being supported or will never be implemented.
God I love the smell of GD in the morning.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Stegas Tyrano
GLU CANU
Open Space Consultancy
230
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Posted - 2013.02.27 17:54:00 -
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You remote control a drone clone that requires you to activate a module on your ship that if attacked will deactivate killing the drone clone.
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Ris Dnalor
L'Avant Garde
Happy Endings
469
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Posted - 2013.02.28 03:27:00 -
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Debora Tsung wrote:Ris Dnalor wrote: Questions over questions, all of signifficant philosophical value. There's supersoldier superimplants for superimmortal out of capsule superclonses. Buy one for Yourself, cloak up Your ship, transfer consciousness to exploration clone, explore & explode ... profit. At least that's how I imagine it would be doable, but then I've been told that my imagination tends to run wild at times.
that's pretty cool, and would still leave your ship without a (conscious) pilot :)
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EvE = Everybody Vs. Everybody
- Qolde |
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
987
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Posted - 2013.02.28 03:31:00 -
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Welcome to 2012.
HTFU!...for the children! |
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