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NEONOVUS
Saablast Followers
391
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Posted - 2013.02.27 18:09:00 -
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Why not just make it that Concord only acts on those in NPC corps. Pay the tax or go it alone is your choice. So they will protect if you are NPC and blow you up if same. |
Runeme Shilter
New Order Logistics CODE.
52
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Posted - 2013.02.27 19:02:00 -
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Captain Tardbar wrote:EI Digin wrote:I have a better idea
Let's make it so that you can spend ISK to let CONCORD look the other way if you shoot certain groups of people. You mean something like War Decs? Great job CCP! You have come out with features before the idea gets posted on the forums!
Huh? How do I wardec a specific group of people, like https://gate.eveonline.com/Profile/Replicator%20Femto01,https://gate.eveonline.com/Profile/Replicator%20Femto02,https://gate.eveonline.com/Profile/Replicator%20Femto03 (etc) till https://gate.eveonline.com/Profile/Replicator%20Femto52?
Is there some feature I have missed? Can you quote the patch notes? |
Krell Kroenen
Miner Intimidation
124
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Posted - 2013.02.27 19:05:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Abrazzar wrote:Agreed! Whenever you cause CONCORD to show up, they not only pop your ship, they also send you a bill for it. After all, it's the aggressor's fault that they need to come around and not the poor sod's that just got attacked. Thats like the US dropping two payloads onto the taliban. One is the bomb and the other the bill.
I believe China used to charge relatives the price of the bullet to execute prisoners before they started using their mobile legal injection vans.
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Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
312
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Posted - 2013.02.27 19:13:00 -
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Ris Dnalor wrote:it's only fair. It's an isk-sink. 1.0 systems could be cheaper, and 0.5 systems more expensive to represent appropriate deployment costs. Billing could be a base fee, plus modifications for value of ships destroyed in teh process of protecting the innocent, modified by the above divisor. CONCORD should simply refuse to protect folks that don't pay the bill. yes? Indeed, I think it is time 20 billion (or even more) loot pinatas pay for the trouble they cause in highsec.
A freighter pilot putting more than 20 billion worth in his cargo hold should pay a fine of 10% of the value destroyed for causing riot and disorder and Concord having to be called in order to clean up the mess.
And please do not forget: Concord is not running a protection scheme. Concord is punishing aggressors. It's time those inciting aggression stand up to their faults. Remove insurance. |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
638
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Posted - 2013.02.27 19:14:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:BadAssMcKill wrote:You must be one of those people who believe we should pay so the police/fire department come to our homes irl Who do you think pays them? Mystical money fountains at the end of rainbows?
Isn't that what a fiat economy is? Ripard Teg-á for CSM 8 |
Takseen
University of Caille Gallente Federation
301
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Posted - 2013.02.27 19:15:00 -
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Dear God, are they all gingers? That's terrible and inhumane. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6973
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Posted - 2013.02.27 19:26:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:And of course it should be the attacker that pays. And if his wallet goes negative, he cannot board a ship other than a shuttle until its positive.
nah, safety should come at a price too
such as l4 and incursion rewards being 10% of what they are now ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6973
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Posted - 2013.02.27 19:28:00 -
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you see if the police showed up at your house within 30 seconds of someone breaking in, without even being called or alerted by an alarm system, we'd be paying massive amounts of money in taxes ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8 |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
898
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Posted - 2013.02.27 19:42:00 -
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Whitehound wrote:baltec1 wrote:Abrazzar wrote:Agreed! Whenever you cause CONCORD to show up, they not only pop your ship, they also send you a bill for it. After all, it's the aggressor's fault that they need to come around and not the poor sod's that just got attacked. Thats like the US dropping two payloads onto the taliban. One is the bomb and the other the bill. This bill you speak of is it paid in oil, is it not? The Taliban have no oil. The bill is payed in political capital. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Malcanis for CSM8 |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
2517
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Posted - 2013.02.27 19:43:00 -
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Dear Pilot,
Here is the Invoice for services rendered while attempting to save your vessel. While your vessel was lost well before our arrival on scene, and your pod was subsequently lost also before our arrival, the fact of the matter is that several CONCORD drones were deployed and ammo was used to destroy the offenders vessel. We of course are not allowed to destroy the pod of the offender, which of course would be fair retribution for the acts commited upon your person, so we allowed him to go free.We did however dock him a trivial amount of secuity status. We apologize for the inconvienience.
Invoice for CONCORD police reponse:
Cap booster expenditure for OMGWTF infinite distance warp scramble ; 2,754,430.23 ISK. Ammo expenditure to destroy offending vessel: 4,589,239.11 ISK. Drone fuel : 2,987 ISK. Misc taxes and Fees : 12,788,499.99.
Total amount autowithdrawn from you wallet for services rendered: 20,135,156.33 ISK
Thank you for using CONCORD, and have a wonderful rest of your day. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
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Milan Nantucket
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2013.02.27 19:50:00 -
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You all are funny thinking Concord protects you or offers some sort of safety net.... |
Fredfredbug4
The Scope Gallente Federation
469
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Posted - 2013.02.27 20:01:00 -
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Or, we could have and encourage players to become members of CONCORD and the DED. They get paid to patrol and respond to any incidents and deliver justice accordingly. To balance this out, the power and response time of NPC CONCORD would be severely nerfed, but still existent to provide ample defense in the higher security hi-sec systems.
If profitable enough and fun enough, there would be plenty of people willing to do the job and would make Hi-sec much more interesting and dynamic. I accidentally my assets, is this bad?-á |
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
447
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Posted - 2013.02.27 20:02:00 -
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Ris Dnalor wrote:it's only fair. It's an isk-sink. 1.0 systems could be cheaper, and 0.5 systems more expensive to represent appropriate deployment costs. Billing could be a base fee, plus modifications for value of ships destroyed in teh process of protecting the innocent, modified by the above divisor. CONCORD should simply refuse to protect folks that don't pay the bill. yes?
So...With all the easy ganking in highsec, it's still not easy enough for you?
The single biggest danger to EVE is the proliferation of ALTS! Kill an alt today!
Petition for a Minimum bounty of 10 mil. Prevent useless bounties!
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Rellik B00n
Lethal Death Squad
273
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Posted - 2013.02.27 20:44:00 -
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they do charge.
They charge the huge NPC empires that compose high sec.
these huge empires tax players on more or less everything.
therefore players already pay for concord.
try harder.com Of a request for change ask: Who Benefits? |
Karl Hobb
Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium
1273
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Posted - 2013.02.27 20:48:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:YES. I support this. A 50M ISK or so monthly payment or CONCORD won't respond (mmmmmm.....maybe taking effect after 6 months from character creation).
EDIT: This is the most interesting idea I've seen tossed out there in a LONG time. One is also flagged as to not having paid up. It's a bit too lenient for my liking (I'd prefer three months) but I must say it's a good idea. If you're not already part of a bloc, this is the best guy for CSM8. |
Lugia3
Lurking Beneath
274
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Posted - 2013.02.27 20:58:00 -
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It has been said that your "Pilots License" covers the cost of ship fueling, maintenance, crew, and other mundane tasks us pilots don't care about. I would assume that your PLEX also makes a profit for CONCORD, allowing them to pay the crews for their ships.
That being said, I wonder why we need to pay our subscriptions lore-wise if we live in null or wormhole? Give drones some love: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2176396&#post2176396 |
Captain Tardbar
NEWB ALERT
174
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Posted - 2013.02.27 21:04:00 -
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You know I just though of a horrible idea...
Why not pay 100 million a month to bribe Concord to show up instantly everytime someone tries to gank you?
See where this thinking leads. "Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down. |
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight
66
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Posted - 2013.02.27 21:29:00 -
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I sent CONCORD a christmas card this year for this http://evedarklord.blogspot.ca |
Yusef Yeasef Yosef
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
193
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Posted - 2013.02.27 21:51:00 -
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Milan Nantucket wrote:You all are funny thinking Concord protects you or offers some sort of safety net....
That is correct.
It is not protection, but actually punishment Incorporated.
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Yusef Yeasef Yosef
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
193
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Posted - 2013.02.27 21:56:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Yusef Yeasef Yosef wrote:Concord does get paid.
What do you think the NPC Corp tax is for?
The NPC corp.
I seem to remember that the dev blob covering the NPC tax talked about Corcord or something as where the fees were going to go. (Eve Fiction)
Maybe it was Stargate operations, its been awhile since that change.
Maybe some bored Pod Pilot can dig that up.
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Kathern Aurilen
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Posted - 2013.02.27 22:08:00 -
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BadAssMcKill wrote:You must be one of those people who believe we should pay so the police/fire department come to our homes irl In Tennessee(I think it was) There was a new fire department "SUBSCRIPTION" passed passed for pay raises in the fire department.
So far they the ran to the house to let 2 houses burn to the ground with them watching over the fee. If you dont pay the fee. you have the option to pay them ON THE SPOT $1000 a hour(who has a $1000 on them after running from your burning house) http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2011/12/07/9272989-firefighters-let-home-burn-over-75-fee-again?lite No cuts, no butts, no cocanuts!
Forum alt, unskilled in the was of pewpew! |
Bud Austrene
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
16
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Posted - 2013.02.27 22:19:00 -
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If Concord was to be paid an extra tax, they would not provide more protection. They would just squander it on Quafe and Exotic Dancers.
Yes I am an alt. I see no reason to make it easy for bullies and greifers |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
180
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Posted - 2013.02.27 22:27:00 -
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Removed some off topic post and RL remarks.
22. Post constructively.
Negative feedback can be very useful to further improve EVE Online provided that it is presented in a civil and factual manner. All users are encouraged to honestly express their feelings regarding EVE Online and how it can be improved. Posts that are non-constructive, insulting or in breach of the rules will be deleted regardless of how valid the ideas behind them may be. Users are also reminded that posting with a lack of content also constitutes non-constructive posting.
26. Off-topic posting is prohibited.
Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued.
ISD Ezwal Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Shamus O'Reilly
Gungnirs' Point I Know Right
89
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Posted - 2013.02.27 22:34:00 -
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BadAssMcKill wrote:You must be one of those people who believe we should pay so the police/fire department come to our homes irl Yet we need insurance for the medical services... or we end up paying thousands for an ambulance ride.... "I swear there are more people complaining over "nullsecers complaining" then actual nullsec people complaining." |
Ris Dnalor
L'Avant Garde Happy Endings
469
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Posted - 2013.02.28 03:40:00 -
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Yusef Yeasef Yosef wrote:baltec1 wrote:Yusef Yeasef Yosef wrote:Concord does get paid.
What do you think the NPC Corp tax is for?
The NPC corp. I seem to remember that the dev blob covering the NPC tax talked about Corcord or something as where the fees were going to go. (Eve Fiction) Maybe it was Stargate operations, its been awhile since that change. Maybe some bored Pod Pilot can dig that up.
all should tremble, for the dev-blob cometh! I know it was a typo, but this is the best Idea in a long time. Dev's take a day and log in and blob us all to death *grin* https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=118961
EvE = Everybody Vs. Everybody
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Spurty
V0LTA Verge of Collapse
808
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Posted - 2013.02.28 03:54:00 -
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EI Digin wrote:I have a better idea
Let's make it so that you can spend ISK to let CONCORD look the other way if you shoot certain groups of people.
Never catch on. --- GÇ£If you think this Universe is bad, you should see some of the others.GÇ¥ GÇò Philip K. **** |
MadMuppet
Three Fish In A Box
879
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Posted - 2013.02.28 04:04:00 -
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Super spikinator wrote:BadAssMcKill wrote:You must be one of those people who believe we should pay so the police/fire department come to our homes irl I pay a district, regional and national tax for those services! That being said, technically some capsuleers do pay concord. Since concord is like the UN as it should be, by paying the 11% npc tax npc corp players are paying by proxy. It is the one man corps and so on that aren't paying for concord - they're a bunch of tax dodging freeloaders who get all the protection of concord without paying into the system at any level where concord is paid from. dang nammit! edit: added a comma
So, if I want CONCORD support I should go back to the NPC corp? Seems like the exact opposite of what most people want... that being the ability to bribe CONCORD to not support player corps so they can be shot. I mine in EVE because I'm too drunk to fish in WoW.-á |
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