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Ephemeron
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Posted - 2005.08.07 14:32:00 -
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Here's the deal, my alliance is at war with FIX alliance. So we can fight in empire. FIX has friends in neutral corp, their gang invites some neutral frigs. The neutral frig can safely approach our ships, without fear of getting shot in empire. Then when the frig got a good position on us, FIX gang warps in at their desired range.
This tactic seems a bit shady to me.
Someone told me that if a neutral ship is in a gang with war enemies, then the neutral ship is okay to shoot for war enemies. However, I tried this in low sec space and had security status decreased for popping one of them. Also, Overview does not indicate that it is okay to shoot them.
Can someone clarify this situation?
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striader
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Posted - 2005.08.07 14:37:00 -
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long as i know it aint an exploit
outsiders are allowed in ganged or neutrals as u call em,long as they aint shooting u not much u can do about it except kill em and face the wrath of concord |
Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2005.08.07 14:42:00 -
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You can indeed pop members of the gang. You have no way of seeing they are members of the gang though
What you mentioned is pretty much standard practice. It's normally done by alts.
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Malken
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Posted - 2005.08.07 14:50:00 -
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anyone that are in a warring gang and not of the warring party should show up as a wartarget in my opinion.
that would end this lame tactic.
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upsideup
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Posted - 2005.08.07 14:53:00 -
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Yeah, its pretty much standard practice but its generally frowned upon as a cheap tactic. The worst is when they go get an alt, ship scan you for all your setups, and then decide whether or not to fight you. I think its quite pathetic.
You can shoot them but you risk that they may not be in the gang at that time.
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2005.08.07 15:00:00 -
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 Originally by: upsideup
You can shoot them but you risk that they may not be in the gang at that time.
Maybe it's just me, but wouldn't the scout immediately leave gang the second anyone targetted him?
Passive targetting might work. And I suspect that doing the above would be considered an exploit, like leaving corp to shuttle to next station and joining again. But what do I know 
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2005.08.07 15:26:00 -
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its lame but not an exploit. it would be nice to be able to see people who are in an enemys gang tho.
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2005.08.07 15:34:00 -
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Originally by: upsideup
Yeah, its pretty much standard practice but its generally frowned upon as a cheap tactic. The worst is when they go get an alt, ship scan you for all your setups, and then decide whether or not to fight you. I think its quite pathetic.
You can shoot them but you risk that they may not be in the gang at that time.
Then they go refit with and Anti-you setup.
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Krugerrand
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Posted - 2005.08.07 15:41:00 -
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He got me :(
and yeah you can shoot members of the gang so when you did shoot me i was surprised that you got aggrod :/
And kudos to eventually shooting me, albeit i wasn't approaching for them to warp to me, most were already in warp the moment you appeared.
Was good fun. Thanks :)
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Hllaxiu
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Posted - 2005.08.07 15:46:00 -
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That tactic is used all the time. For instance certain mercenary corps have alts in covert ops ships in different corps for this purpose.
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Lunas Feelgood
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Posted - 2005.08.07 16:05:00 -
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yea it sucks many is using alts ind emp.. I remember one time a neutral covert ops alt sneaked on my sniping mega dont think its an sploit but its defiantly lame tactics
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mirel yirrin
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Posted - 2005.08.07 16:08:00 -
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Originally by: Ephemeron
Here's the deal, my alliance is at war with FIX alliance. So we can fight in empire. FIX has friends in neutral corp, their gang invites some neutral frigs. The neutral frig can safely approach our ships, without fear of getting shot in empire. Then when the frig got a good position on us, FIX gang warps in at their desired range.
This tactic seems a bit shady to me.
Someone told me that if a neutral ship is in a gang with war enemies, then the neutral ship is okay to shoot for war enemies. However, I tried this in low sec space and had security status decreased for popping one of them. Also, Overview does not indicate that it is okay to shoot them.
Can someone clarify this situation?
Not a exploit....its just a tactic, like using a noob alt to scout systems ahead for you. Learn to adapt.
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Krugerrand
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Posted - 2005.08.07 16:25:00 -
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tbh we both took a risk.
My risk was accepting the gang invite knowing I could be shot and would be an easy target if I chose to do a straight approach which i did.
Your risk was shooting me not knowing if I was ganged or not.
It might be classed as a lame tactic if it's an alt but this is a main character and tbh is a legit tactic and he warped off each time anyway. It's all about looking at something and wondering if it is or isn't suspicious.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2005.08.07 16:30:00 -
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I find it amazing that non-war-but-ganged ships don't show up as hostile in overview or inspace.
Another pet hate is the non-ganged alt with a ship scanner - those things need a level 5 skill.
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Larno
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Posted - 2005.08.07 16:47:00 -
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Along the same lines; many players use alts to scout the other side of a stargate to see if an enemy strike force is approaching. A tactic used heavily by S.A.S vs XETIC. Obviously not an exploit, but it's annoying as you can't shoot them. 0.0 wars FTW.
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Trooper B99
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Posted - 2005.08.07 17:20:00 -
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Originally by: Hllaxiu
That tactic is used all the time. For instance certain mercenary corps have alts in covert ops ships in different corps for this purpose.
Using a cloaked covert ops character for a warp in is very different to using a noob/neutral in a regular ship (non-cloaked) to act as a warp to.
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Troezar
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Posted - 2005.08.07 17:22:00 -
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A variation on a theme I have heard is where a non-warring alt targets you in the heat of battle you auto-target them and if you should shoot them Concord wtfpwn you
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SPIONKOP
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Posted - 2005.08.07 17:51:00 -
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I have asked the GM's about this and they told me its a valid tactic.
If you can't beat them, join them.
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2005.08.07 18:01:00 -
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Originally by: Troezar
A variation on a theme I have heard is where a non-warring alt targets you in the heat of battle you auto-target them and if you should shoot them Concord wtfpwn you
Hit esc - change "autotarget back" = 0
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Wendat Huron
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Posted - 2005.08.07 19:02:00 -
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Why not just have everyone being able to shoot everyone in a system labelled a warzone. 
Alts doing your scanning for you may be a tactic but a tactic that is an unintended feature is an exploit, till then it's just lame.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.08.07 20:11:00 -
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Originally by: Wendat Huron
Why not just have everyone being able to shoot everyone in a system labelled a warzone.
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Hllaxiu
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Posted - 2005.08.07 20:17:00 -
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Originally by: Trooper B99
Using a cloaked covert ops character for a warp in is very different to using a noob/neutral in a regular ship (non-cloaked) to act as a warp to.
Why does one need war immune covert ops ships?
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Minthos
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Posted - 2006.06.13 14:40:00 -
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*puts on his necromancer's robe*
How about.. setting a real covert ops that's in gang to follow a noob alt that's not in gang, at 3 km distance, then maneuver the noob alt into position and warp in a fleet on the covops...
..and hope they shoot the noob alt :>
cruel, eh? :)
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MOOstradamus
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Posted - 2006.06.13 14:43:00 -
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Not.
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