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Claire Raynor
NovaGear
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Posted - 2013.02.28 11:47:00 -
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There doesn't appear to have been much discussion or noise about this yet. I've searched the forums and the usual sites around the internets.
Was just wondering what might happen to the battleships - and what time frame we are looking at. My only concern is that with the frigates and cruisers having lots to choose from for any given race - the battleships are a bit more limited - so if the changes meant I started to not like one anymore - I wouldn't be able to swap so easily.
I've heard rumors that the Typhoon might go fully missiles, (which lets face it - it is already). And that the Tempest might also get it's weapons layout altered, (p.s. I love the new ship model).
Does anyone know what might be in the pipeline? or if this isn't going to happen for a long time - in which case I can continue to spend silly ISK on my RF Typhoon setups :)
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Caitlyn Tufy
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
193
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Posted - 2013.02.28 12:00:00 -
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Read the second part of this blog:
Back to the Balancing Future
Basically: 1. Typhoon will become a missile boat 2. Raven will be buffed 3. Large missiles, particularly cruise missiles, are getting looked at 4. Megathron will get tougher, faster 5. small changes to Hyperion
That's more or less it. There are some other rumours and hints about, such as designers working on the new Apocalypse model, but there's no major details yet.
When? Summer expansion. No sooner than May. |
Hulasikaly Wada
G.P.S. Global Private Security Agency
15
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Posted - 2013.02.28 12:02:00 -
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If i am not wrong, faction ships will not be touched in the tiercide round and look like there is a work in progress ( or just an idea , boh ) for new hulls for Bs to fill the E-war role ( Caldari already have it , maybe they get a another combat Bs if you consider Ravens as attack one ) Will no expect to see anything short
Hula |
Claire Raynor
NovaGear
93
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Posted - 2013.02.28 12:20:00 -
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Thanks all!
That's all very reassuring! |
Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
853
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Posted - 2013.02.28 12:22:00 -
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any news on the material requirements?
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |
ITTigerClawIK
Galactic Rangers R O G U E
241
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Posted - 2013.02.28 13:14:00 -
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whats this about touching the apocalypse model ??? O_O |
Caitlyn Tufy
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
194
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Posted - 2013.02.28 13:17:00 -
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ITTigerClawIK wrote:whats this about touching the apocalypse model ??? O_O
The quote is here. |
Drake Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
42
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Posted - 2013.02.28 16:24:00 -
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No dominix pg/cpu increase? |
Claire Raynor
NovaGear
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Posted - 2013.02.28 16:52:00 -
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Well I assume that they'll all be brought up to line with the top teir battleships like what they did with all the cruisers and frigates. So I am expecting the less well specified ships to get boosts - but what I wanted to know was that they were not going to too massivly change what the shuips actually do. Like, I dunno, turn the Maelstrom into a drone boat, or the Hyperion into a Missile boat or sommat! |
ITTigerClawIK
Galactic Rangers R O G U E
241
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Posted - 2013.02.28 16:59:00 -
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as long as it remains the biggest badest looking golden beast in space ill be ok with an upgrade, but i have lvoed its look ever since i first saw it in early 2005 ... made me pick amarr actually |
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Inkarr Hashur
Sacrificial Lambs
208
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Posted - 2013.02.28 17:04:00 -
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I'm partial to the Abbadon myself. The Apoc looks too structurally unsound. Much like the Armageddon, but at least that one has a nicer profile. |
Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
312
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Posted - 2013.02.28 17:34:00 -
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Hulasikaly Wada wrote: If i am not wrong, faction ships will not be touched in the tiercide round
Well, in all fairness, faction ships don't have tiers, there's one per skill pair/faction. |
Blodhgarm Dethahal
Transcendent Sedition Dustm3n
12
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Posted - 2013.02.28 17:44:00 -
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Caitlyn Tufy wrote:ITTigerClawIK wrote:whats this about touching the apocalypse model ??? O_O The quote is here.
Plz no touch my Apoc and Paladin looks... Plz... -Bl+¦d
Wormholes are the best Space.. |
Krell Kroenen
Miner Intimidation
124
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Posted - 2013.02.28 19:52:00 -
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Caitlyn Tufy wrote:Read the second part of this blog: Back to the Balancing FutureBasically: 1. Typhoon will become a missile boat 2. Raven will be buffed 3. Large missiles, particularly cruise missiles, are getting looked at 4. Megathron will get tougher, faster 5. small changes to Hyperion That's more or less it. There are some other rumours and hints about, such as designers working on the new Apocalypse model, but there's no major details yet. When? Summer expansion. No sooner than May.
A correction to your Mega Info.. seems that it will get a down grade to it's tank in some form or fashion
"Megathron: just like the Thorax on the cruiser level, the Megathron role will be changed slightly to make it less resilient, but more mobile so to make proper use of blasters. Think of it as a ship closer to the Typhoon in terms of speed and agility. Next to a Talos, it will be more durable, more flexible, but still cumbersome to have in small gangs." |
Ark Destroyer
Neutral Talent
13
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Posted - 2013.02.28 20:01:00 -
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I find it odd so many changes are geared more towards Solo PvP... but like 99.9% of combat in eve is fleet. Making a megathron abit faster won't affect a fleet fight much... they would all die trying to close in on the one ship they're trying to get into blaster range with lol. Neutral Talent CEO Specializing in "complete" super-capital packages
Complete supercapital packages |
Perihelion Olenard
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
144
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Posted - 2013.02.28 20:16:00 -
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Drake Doe wrote:No dominix pg/cpu increase? I sure hope the dominix, dominix navy issue, and eventually the vexor navy issue get PG and CPU increases. They need it.
One reason the megathron does so well is because it has plenty of PG from when rails needed so much. I hope the base PG of the megathron isn't reduced. The hyperion needs a price reduction for sure.
Claire Raynor wrote:... Like, I dunno, turn the Maelstrom into a drone boat, or the Hyperion into a Missile boat or sommat! What... I wear my sunglasses at night. |
Trinkets friend
Minmatar-Amarr Man-Boy Love Association
945
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Posted - 2013.03.01 00:17:00 -
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Ark Destroyer wrote:I find it odd so many changes are geared more towards Solo PvP... but like 99.9% of combat in eve is fleet. Making a megathron abit faster won't affect a fleet fight much... they would all die trying to close in on the one ship they're trying to get into blaster range with lol.
CCP's misguided attempts to fix BS's revolve around assuming that you can turn a sluggish, brick-like flailing fail whale of a ship class into anything moderately useful by giving it cheesy ECM modules (target sspectrum breaker) or altering the maneuverability of it with the Micro Jump Drive.
CCP's idea is that you use the MJD to offset the cruddy maneuverability of your fleet of BS. You are supposed to figure out a novel and unique way of using MJD's in a fleet to teleport your sluggish blaster BS into range of kitey nano drakes, 100MN Tengus, alpha fleets, tier 3 BC's going 2km/s, or out of range of said foes and/or blap dreads or supers.
In reality...nope.
The MJD isn't meant for solo PVP Taking submissions for "Trinkets friendly Advice Column" via evemail or private convo in-game. Anonymity sorta guaranteed. http://www.localectomy.blogspot.com.au
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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
627
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Posted - 2013.03.01 00:27:00 -
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Caitlyn Tufy wrote: 4. Megathron will get tougher, faster
I have to take my pants off right now or I'll have some trouble with in a couple seconds after reading this.
Frack...too late...
You owe me a new boxer and trousers now!!
*removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |
stoicfaux
2464
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Posted - 2013.03.01 00:30:00 -
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Looks at the Rokh. Looks the post-tiericide Ferox. Repackages Rokh.
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Songbird
76
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Posted - 2013.03.01 03:25:00 -
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Quote:4. Megathron will get tougher, faster
Actually if you read the text in it's entirety you'll notice that megathron will become less tough.
I'm quoting from memory here but the dev said: The megathron will be less tough but faster. Compared to a talos it will be tougher but still too fat for small gangs.
Edit: just in case you were doubting me :
Quote:the Megathron role will be changed slightly to make it less resilient, but more mobile so to make proper use of blasters.... Next to a Talos, it will be more durable, more flexible, but still cumbersome to have in small gangs. |
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Caitlyn Tufy
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
199
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Posted - 2013.03.01 07:52:00 -
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Krell Kroenen wrote:A correction to your Mega Info.. seems that it will get a down grade to it's tank in some form or fashion
"Megathron: just like the Thorax on the cruiser level, the Megathron role will be changed slightly to make it less resilient, but more mobile so to make proper use of blasters. Think of it as a ship closer to the Typhoon in terms of speed and agility. Next to a Talos, it will be more durable, more flexible, but still cumbersome to have in small gangs."
You are of course right, reading comprehension fail on my part...
stoicfaux wrote:Looks at the Rokh. Looks the post-tiericide Ferox. Repackages Rokh.
To be honest, in my opinion, Rokh is fine (minus the fact that it does less damage than Naga, but doubles as a fairly awesome blaster boat). The main problem with caldari hybrid line is that it lacks a hybrid upgrade in a navy or pirate ship (Vindi is gallente/minmatar, meaning caldari BS is useless) and that Ferox is kinda meh. |
Perihelion Olenard
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
144
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Posted - 2013.03.01 15:35:00 -
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Trinkets friend wrote:...
The MJD isn't meant for solo PVP It's more of a solo PvE module to jump across missions instantly. I completely forgot this module even existed. I wear my sunglasses at night. |
Drake Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
42
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Posted - 2013.03.01 16:12:00 -
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Perihelion Olenard wrote:Drake Doe wrote:No dominix pg/cpu increase? I sure hope the dominix, dominix navy issue, and eventually the vexor navy issue get PG and CPU increases. They need it. One reason the megathron does so well is because it has plenty of PG from when rails needed so much. I hope the base PG of the megathron isn't reduced. The hyperion needs a price reduction for sure. Claire Raynor wrote:... Like, I dunno, turn the Maelstrom into a drone boat, or the Hyperion into a Missile boat or sommat! What... Pretty much ever drone boat needs a pg increase |
Hulasikaly Wada
G.P.S. Global Private Security Agency
16
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Posted - 2013.03.01 16:43:00 -
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Drake Doe wrote:Perihelion Olenard wrote:Drake Doe wrote:No dominix pg/cpu increase? I sure hope the dominix, dominix navy issue, and eventually the vexor navy issue get PG and CPU increases. They need it. One reason the megathron does so well is because it has plenty of PG from when rails needed so much. I hope the base PG of the megathron isn't reduced. The hyperion needs a price reduction for sure. Claire Raynor wrote:... Like, I dunno, turn the Maelstrom into a drone boat, or the Hyperion into a Missile boat or sommat! What... Pretty much ever drone boat needs a pg increase
Explain your idea of "drone boat" Even if my favourite ship is a Nightmare, i still love to have 5 sentries on my Navy Apoc ( and screaming vs typhoons mwding to you with torps and ogres out ... )
Hula |
Orlacc
274
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Posted - 2013.03.01 17:03:00 -
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Drake Doe wrote:Perihelion Olenard wrote:Drake Doe wrote:No dominix pg/cpu increase? I sure hope the dominix, dominix navy issue, and eventually the vexor navy issue get PG and CPU increases. They need it. One reason the megathron does so well is because it has plenty of PG from when rails needed so much. I hope the base PG of the megathron isn't reduced. The hyperion needs a price reduction for sure. Claire Raynor wrote:... Like, I dunno, turn the Maelstrom into a drone boat, or the Hyperion into a Missile boat or sommat! What... Pretty much ever drone boat needs a pg increase
Translate: My grid skills are low. |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
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Posted - 2013.03.01 17:20:00 -
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Hulasikaly Wada wrote: Explain your idea of "drone boat" Even if my favourite ship is a Nightmare, i still love to have 5 sentries on my Navy Apoc ( and screaming vs typhoons mwding to you with torps and ogres out ... )
Hula
"Drone boat" normally refers to a ship that has some kind of hull bonus affecting drones.
-á- All I really wanted was to build a castle among the stars - |
Callic Veratar
Power of the Phoenix
339
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Posted - 2013.03.01 19:38:00 -
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They have stated that there is less disparity amongst the battleships than there was in, say, the frigates or cruisers. It's likely the Tier 1 ships will be brought up a bit and the rest tweaked a bit. DirectX 11, it's not rocket appliance! |
Provence Tristram
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
28
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Posted - 2013.03.01 21:15:00 -
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The Apoc is a crap model, so I'm fine with it changing -- the more dramatically, the better. I just don't want to see major changes to the Tempest. I like how it plays currently. |
Kodama Ikari
Concordiat Spaceship Samurai
14
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Posted - 2013.03.01 21:25:00 -
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Drake Doe wrote: Pretty much ever drone boat needs a pg cpu increase
fixed. The domi also needs a pg increase.
Ark Destroyer wrote:Making a megathron abit faster won't affect a fleet fight much... they would all die trying to close in on the one ship they're trying to get into blaster range with lol. It won't affect fleet fights because no one has used megas in fleet fights for years. As for gangs brawling, the mega would definitely be much better with some more speed and agility. |
Drake Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
43
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Posted - 2013.03.02 09:30:00 -
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Hulasikaly Wada wrote:Drake Doe wrote:Perihelion Olenard wrote:Drake Doe wrote:No dominix pg/cpu increase? I sure hope the dominix, dominix navy issue, and eventually the vexor navy issue get PG and CPU increases. They need it. One reason the megathron does so well is because it has plenty of PG from when rails needed so much. I hope the base PG of the megathron isn't reduced. The hyperion needs a price reduction for sure. Claire Raynor wrote:... Like, I dunno, turn the Maelstrom into a drone boat, or the Hyperion into a Missile boat or sommat! What... Pretty much ever drone boat needs a pg increase Explain your idea of "drone boat" Even if my favourite ship is a Nightmare, i still love to have 5 sentries on my Navy Apoc ( and screaming vs typhoons mwding to you with torps and ogres out ... ) Hula I meant cpu and by drone boat i mean ships suvh as the Gila and Ishtar |
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