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GatoFuego
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.13 14:42:00 -
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So last night i made a thread asking what are gallente known for
now my question is what are caldari known for
im looking for a pvp perspective on this im trying to decide what race to go for my pvp.
I'm hearing a lot about the falcon?
What are some good pvp ships they produce?
Any other race you would pick over them?
thank you for your help... if you could please keep giving me opinions on my other thread about gallente i would appreciate that as well
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Weaselior
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.13 14:43:00 -
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tengu botting |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.10.13 14:44:00 -
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Achura supremacy. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |
Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
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Posted - 2011.10.13 14:44:00 -
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Jita |
Weaselior
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.13 14:46:00 -
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being the race of gatofuego, a noted poster of bad threads on the eve forums |
Hotaru Yamato
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.10.13 14:49:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Achura supremacy.
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ITTigerClawIK
Galactic Rangers Galactic-Rangers
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Posted - 2011.10.13 14:56:00 -
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race of mission whores? |
GatoFuego
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.13 14:56:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:being the race of gatofuego, a noted poster of bad threads on the eve forums
you seem angry
trolls our welcome livens up my day =]
but looking for serious answers too |
Deviana Sevidon
Panta-Rhei Butterfly Effect Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.13 15:00:00 -
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Being CCPs favorites. overpowered because of broken passive shield tank mechanics |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.13 15:00:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:tengu botting
Not more in high sec than in your own systems but shssss let's not talk about it or it's considered GF (if you do)?
And pve blitzing OC |
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GatoFuego
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.13 15:07:00 -
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Well what about there pvp do they have any good ships that are known for it
i heard alot about the falcon but idk if its BS or not or what excatly it does? |
David Grogan
The Motley Crew Reborn
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Posted - 2011.10.13 15:08:00 -
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caldari pvp ships that are useful at present
1. Blackbird/Falcon/Scorpion - Because of Falcon many poor feckers lost their ships
2. Drakes - The caldari's swiss army knife of ships... can be fitted for pvp & pve at the same time
3. Chimera - The pos repper and one of the two super cap's battery recharger ships (other being the amarrian archon)
4. Tengu - Excellent for solo pve & if used in large numbers excellent for pvp too ... see pl's tengu fit
5. Phoenix - Excellent for structure bashing but not much else as missile tracking is non existent if your target is moving. |
Zoe Alarhun
Drunken Space Irish
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Posted - 2011.10.13 15:08:00 -
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Frigates:
Kestrel - MSE + Rockets makes a decent missile PVP boat. Merlin - Hybrids + rockets + MSE + full tackle makes for a very tanky frigate. Hookbill with 2 webs makes for a nice rocket boat.
Cruisers:
Caracal with Assault missiles makes for a excellent frigate killer.
Battlecruiser:
Drake has crazy awesome buffer while packing heavy assault missiles that get decent range and damage.
Battleship:
Scorpion will jam your pants off, expect to get primaried alot. Raven - torps against larger ships is pretty awesome. Don't see it very often in pvp though. Torps hit smaller ships like crap.
Assault frigs:
Hawk is pretty cool with a oversized booster, or some people go full ewar with armor instead. Blaster harpy is pretty cool - I havn't flown it but it looks viable.
Heavy assault ships:
Eagle - sniper, I've never seen one. I think it's pretty bad. Cerberus - VERY long range missile spewer. Honestly a drake just looks better for pvp. I could be wrong.
Recons: FALCON! MAKER OF RAGE! DRINKER OF TEARS! basically a cloaking cruiser with obscene jamming capability. It's a force multiplier and makes your gang much more dangerous. Not that great solo.
Rook - non cloaky version of falcon. Has more tank and slightly more dps. I suppose it's ok in gangs but I havn't used it. I can't say.
Logistics ship is the basilisk - normally looked over for the scimitar because of scim's better agility/speed and sig. But if you have more than one basi working together they start becoming better than scims in my opinion.
I may be off on many of these ships since I rarely fly Caldari. |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
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Posted - 2011.10.13 15:13:00 -
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David Grogan wrote:caldari pvp ships that are useful at present
1. Blackbird/Falcon/Scorpion - Because of Falcon many poor feckers lost their ships
2. Drakes - The caldari's swiss army knife of ships... can be fitted for pvp & pve at the same time
3. Chimera - The pos repper and one of the two super cap's battery recharger ships (other being the amarrian archon)
4. Tengu - Excellent for solo pve & if used in large numbers excellent for pvp too ... see pl's tengu fit
5. Phoenix - Excellent for structure bashing but not much else as missile tracking is non existent if your target is moving.
that about sums it up
ECM + Shield tanks + tank tengus for soloing sleeper sites
The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |
GatoFuego
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.13 15:20:00 -
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Well i love EWAR and it seems the falcon/scorpion and black bird are the main
ewars of caldari .
im assuming they do well in gang pvp situations?
"off topic question do minmatar have any ewar ships if so are they worth flying and which ships are they?" |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
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Posted - 2011.10.13 15:27:00 -
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GatoFuego wrote:Well i love EWAR and it seems the falcon/scorpion and black bird are the main
ewars of caldari .
im assuming they do well in gang pvp situations?
"off topic question do minmatar have any ewar ships if so are they worth flying and which ships are they?"
no, minm ewar sucks roids
I mean they do, but its crap
and sure caldari are kings of ewar, but be advised, best to use the range bonuses or you are primary every time. jammers get burned down first
The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |
Iohet Nolafew
Star Frontiers BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.10.13 15:34:00 -
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GatoFuego wrote:Well i love EWAR and it seems the falcon/scorpion and black bird are the main
ewars of caldari .
im assuming they do well in gang pvp situations?
"off topic question do minmatar have any ewar ships if so are they worth flying and which ships are they?"
They do well, but they're also primaried. Bonus is the BB is cheap as hell, so you can fill your hangar with them and not worry about your inevitable losses.
Most survivable Falcon fleet pilots generally stay cloaked until the engagement has already started, then decloak and jam while at the edge of range. |
Zagam
Incompertus INC Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.10.13 15:38:00 -
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Cerebus are great anti-frig ships - basically a Caracal with a better tank.
Also, Basilisk are beat by Scimi on a 1:1 basis, but a group of 6 basi is generally regarded as better than 6 scimi, unless high mobility is important. |
Pattern Clarc
Aperture Harmonics
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Posted - 2011.10.13 15:38:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Achura supremacy.
Ex CSM member & Designer of the Tornado. Gallente - Pilot satisfaction |
Jennifer Starling
Imperial Navy Forum Patrol
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Posted - 2011.10.13 15:40:00 -
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Lovely Deitis ladies.
And missiles. |
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GatoFuego
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.13 15:45:00 -
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hmm well what excatly are the jobs
of a scorp/falcon/blackbird/etc
are they all the same just different hulls or? |
Zagam
Incompertus INC Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.10.13 15:53:00 -
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GatoFuego wrote:hmm well what excatly are the jobs
of a scorp/falcon/blackbird/etc
are they all the same just different hulls or? ECM. ECM, and some ECM.
And a teeny bit of DPS, but really ECM.
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.10.13 15:53:00 -
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Are missiles useful in PVP? way back when on my main when I was gonna start getting into PVP (this is probably 2007 or so) The corp I was with told be they werent, is why I ask |
Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
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Posted - 2011.10.13 16:02:00 -
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Tibus Heth
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Zagam
Incompertus INC Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.10.13 16:05:00 -
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Kengutsi Akira wrote:Are missiles useful in PVP? way back when on my main when I was gonna start getting into PVP (this is probably 2007 or so) The corp I was with told be they werent, is why I ask Yes, but nothing larger than heavy missiles. Cruise and Torpedoes can't hit small ships like frigs very well.
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Jaari Val'Dara
Deep Space Nomads Corp
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Posted - 2011.10.13 16:19:00 -
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1. Falcons/blackbirds/scorpion. Choose what size of ecm you want. They win fights. 2. Drakes. Cheap and adaptable to any situation whether PVE or PVP. 3. Tengus. Probably the best caldari ship, it's a bigger badder drake. It's an awesome PVE ship, and you can definitely use it for some PVP. 4. Widow, black ops are underpowered, but caldari have the best one, due to it's bonus to ECM. |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
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Posted - 2011.10.13 16:27:00 -
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Moonbeams and farts, roughly the approximate value of this thread.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki |
Alpheias
Euphoria Released HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.10.13 16:30:00 -
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I have always had a soft spot for the Blackbird. *sigh*
The anguish, the tears and the psychotic murderous hate that you'll cause is honestly better than sex.
GÖ½ When your ship gets blown to bits GÖ½ And you lose your Faction fits \Gÿ+/ Don't worry GÖ¬ GÖ½ GÖ¬ GÖ½ GÖ½ GÖ¬ GÖ½ GÖ¬ Be Happy \Gÿ+/ |
GatoFuego
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.13 17:40:00 -
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Well what would be more then likely wanted more
falcon/scorp?
im assuming blackbird is basically the beginning building block
but falcon and scorp seem to be different ship types IE. BS/RECON
want to use this guy to be pvp and useful ewar |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.10.13 17:59:00 -
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they are known for:
meh frigates **** cruisers except the tengu meh battleships pve supremacy ewar supremacy an unbelievably boring primary weapon system the highly-overrated drake
fly caldari if you plan to do nothing but missions or want ewar. there are very few other reasons. also, lol @ the person calling the chimera the repper carrier. the nidhoggur is the rep carrier. |
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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2011.10.13 18:18:00 -
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Paying my shipyard bills on time and to the penny.
Why do you think i design so many more caldari over any other race? |
Iohet Nolafew
Star Frontiers BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.10.13 21:22:00 -
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Zagam wrote:Kengutsi Akira wrote:Are missiles useful in PVP? way back when on my main when I was gonna start getting into PVP (this is probably 2007 or so) The corp I was with told be they werent, is why I ask Yes, but nothing larger than heavy missiles. Cruise and Torpedoes can't hit small ships like frigs very well.
Cruise and torps are fine for black ops drops on ratting BS's and carriers |
GatoFuego
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.14 13:54:00 -
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im still interested to hear more of there
jammer type ships
are they used/wanted all the time or only special occasions? |
King Aires
Kwame's Executive Protection Detail
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Posted - 2011.10.14 14:01:00 -
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A long time ago when we had different stats for the races and there were learning skills and this game wasnt called Muppets in Space...
Caldari were renowned for macro miners (fastest race to a hulk if I remember correctly)
And terrible Dreads back when they mattered. |
Igualmentedos
Shadow Veil Industrial Shadow Directive
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Posted - 2011.10.14 15:20:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Achura supremacy.
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Igualmentedos
Shadow Veil Industrial Shadow Directive
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Posted - 2011.10.14 15:23:00 -
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Deviana Sevidon wrote:Being CCPs favorites. overpowered because of broken passive shield tank mechanics
The tears! |
Barakkus
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Posted - 2011.10.14 16:45:00 -
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They are known for this. |
Metal Icarus
xHELLonEARTHx Rookie Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.14 17:13:00 -
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The falcon is your best bet for EWAR. If you got a falcon, you got a tear extraction mechanism. Its efficient and causes people to lose their ships while your side loses none.
Not even your cheap t1 fast tackle. |
GatoFuego
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.14 17:52:00 -
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Thank you for the Replies guys =]
where can i use falcons only small gangs maybe medium gangs im assuming ? and how would a t1 fit one do until i get it to t2/maxed out? |
okst666
Not Solitude Again Chained Reactions
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Posted - 2011.10.14 20:19:00 -
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why does noone like the rokh. It is the second sexiest ship in the whole game (right after the machariel). I recently found one in one of my hangers and fitted it and it performed in incursions pretty well!
[X] < Nail here for new monitor |
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Mehrdad Kor-Azor
Iure Divino
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Posted - 2011.10.14 20:28:00 -
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Your gang won the fight... BECAUSE OF FALCON. |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.10.14 20:32:00 -
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EWAR will easily win a small gang fight single-handedly, and *greatly* influence any large fleet battle. However, an EWAR ship is a flying target, and odds are, even though you just won the battle, you're probably going to be flying home in a pod.
The Blackbird is the "intro to EWAR" ship, and the Falcon is the "You lost the second I decloaked, bro" ship. The Scorpion is the fleet battle equivalent of the Blackbird, but is quite a bit more expensive for a ship that is almost certain to not make it home. |
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