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SirMolle
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Posted - 2005.08.08 14:34:00 -
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 Originally by: Aodha Khan
What did we get?!
Answer : shafted
If thats your feelings as a corp, just say the word, and we'll revoke the rights we have granted for your corp to the region.
We didn't have to agree, we didn't have to give anyone rights to come in, we were asked to, and, as part of the deal, since we loose assloads of resources since we cant claim soverignity, we agreed when the deal was negotiated and done.
It's up to anyone to interact with events, event players, rp events, or anything else, we chose to interact.
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Kehmor
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Posted - 2005.08.08 14:36:00 -
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ye this is pretty screwed up. Apart from completely changing our play style (from empire pirates to 0.0 carebears) they also completely stopped all roleplay after that. If say all the Caldari Navy agents got moved 40 jumps into 0.0 we would have uproar.. but we put up with it assuming we weren't the only ones being screwed over. I mean surely if omir was willing to hand out standings to an alliance he would also give 9.5 standing to all the pod pilots who remained loyal to him even after he lost a war for them. Or how about some logistical aid? CCP have a lot to answer for here.
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.08.08 14:37:00 -
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Originally by: Sarkos
Really Discorp!
Wow, with all my RP and all the events I have been in, I have seen NOTHING, but then I am Minmatar and did not get anything like Navy issued ship, like the others in the events, or a Miner II BPO.
Things've changed, Sarkos 
[Come to Daddy]
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Kehmor
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Posted - 2005.08.08 14:38:00 -
[34]
Originally by: SirMolle
Originally by: Aodha Khan
What did we get?!
Answer : shafted
If thats your feelings as a corp, just say the word, and we'll revoke the rights we have granted for your corp to the region.
We didn't have to agree, we didn't have to give anyone rights to come in, we were asked to, and, as part of the deal, since we loose assloads of resources since we cant claim soverignity, we agreed when the deal was negotiated and done.
It's up to anyone to interact with events, event players, rp events, or anything else, we chose to interact.
HAHAHA is that what we were meant to get in return? I will kindly ask for you to replace my scorpion in that case
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Lilan Kahn
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Posted - 2005.08.08 14:43:00 -
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think abut bob had a nice 0.0 place with no fraktion stations, less baseing for randoms to base out from now ccp come and dump station in there region so in compensation bob gets like 10 ppl +9.5 standing
Originally by: Eris Discordia
We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
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Alasse Cuthalion
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Posted - 2005.08.08 14:45:00 -
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Kehmor, you didn't agree with the terms we offered BL-IN and you left and started shooting BoB members, so no, I don't think you're going to get your scorp back.
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Kehmor
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Posted - 2005.08.08 14:48:00 -
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Edited by: Kehmor on 08/08/2005 14:49:12
Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion
Kehmor, you didn't agree with the terms we offered BL-IN and you left and started shooting BoB members, so no, I don't think you're going to get your scorp back.
Actually you will find that is incorrect, some RKK member took a pop at me about 5 minutes after I left.
By the way to clear this up, I am not saying BoB shouldnt have gotten compensated (though I think they got a bit too much) I am saying we should have considering this has effected the blood raider roleplayers more than anyone
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Aodha Khan
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Posted - 2005.08.08 14:49:00 -
[38]
Originally by: SirMolle
Originally by: Aodha Khan
What did we get?!
Answer : shafted
If thats your feelings as a corp, just say the word, and we'll revoke the rights we have granted for your corp to the region.
Those are my feelings. Still doesn't make any difference to my original point. We got shafted just as you did.
So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak. |
Lord Zap
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Posted - 2005.08.08 14:49:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Top Dollar
Yes as topic title says! so delve gets some Bloodraider stations! inconvienient or what as part of the storyline arc. band of brothers get what in return?
Tell you what they got aload of there guys set to +9.5 standing with the blood raiders so everyone else in the game works there ass's off doing thousands of agent missions to get that type of standing and bob get it for free, for getting some stations put in! in addition they are also going to get something else from the Bloods, been wondering what all these faction BS auctions from bob members are coming from
this is so unfair its retarded! I am yes and I dont care cancelling my accounts, CCP has just made a mockery of fair play!!
Quote:
[ 2005.07.02 16:08:24 ] Lion El'Johnson > Are you prepared to adjust
standings to the corporations that
control this area?
[ 2005.07.02 16:08:28 ] Omir Sarikusa > Yes.
[ 2005.07.02 16:09:22 ] Omir Sarikusa > And, of course, on the face
of it, it will appear as if you are our
enemies.
[ 2005.07.02 16:09:55 ] Lion El'Johnson > That is acceptable.
[ 2005.07.02 16:10:20 ] Omir Sarikusa > To assuage the Empire, you
may continue to attack our ships. My
followers do not hesitate to jump into the mouth of doom for the
greater cause.
[ 2005.07.02 16:11:14 ] Omir Sarikusa > Very well. I am glad to hear
that.
[ 2005.07.02 16:11:19 ] Omir Sarikusa > A token of our appreciation
shall be forthcoming.
[ 2005.07.02 16:11:38 ] Omir Sarikusa > Please send me a message
listing the corporations who control the
areas, so that official standings may be adjusted.
[ 2005.07.02 16:11:40 ] Lion El'Johnson > Please hold we are
discussing.
[ 2005.07.02 16:11:47 ] Omir Sarikusa > /emote nods.
[ 2005.07.02 16:12:21 ] Lion El'Johnson > Are you prepared to adjust
standings to a few select individuals?
[ 2005.07.02 16:13:00 ] Omir Sarikusa > That would depend on your
definition of "a few."
[ 2005.07.02 16:13:02 ] Omir Sarikusa > Please elaborate.
[ 2005.07.02 16:15:09 ] Dianabolic > 1 moment please omir, lions
comms net seems to of dropped
[ 2005.07.02 16:15:36 ] Dianabolic > to save time, I shall continue.
[ 2005.07.02 16:16:08 ] Dianabolic > "a few", for us, would be less
than 10
[ 2005.07.02 16:16:32 ] Dianabolic > we would need to find out whihc
of our pilots would volunteer for the
status of such obvious "supporters" of your cause
[ 2005.07.02 16:17:30 ] Omir Sarikusa > That is acceptable.
[ 2005.07.02 16:18:31 ] Dianabolic > to clarify, they would receive
standings to your faction of +10?
[ 2005.07.02 16:18:55 ] Omir Sarikusa > 9.5.
[ 2005.07.02 16:19:00 ] Omir Sarikusa > [OOC: 10 isn't technically
possible Smile]
[ 2005.07.02 16:19:10 ] Dianabolic > [rgr, ty Smile]
So delve gets stations and bob gets not only the stations the agents access but also starts of with there agent runners been able to use every agent! and also a "token" of there appreciation! Glad this game is fair! I quit.
Awww diddums 
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Liu Kaskakka
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Posted - 2005.08.08 14:50:00 -
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0mg, 10 guys get good standings just like that and I didn't.
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA 
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Acwron
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Posted - 2005.08.08 14:51:00 -
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Edited by: Acwron on 08/08/2005 14:52:14
Originally by: Lilan Kahn
think abut bob had a nice 0.0 place with no fraktion stations, less baseing for randoms to base out from now ccp come and dump station in there region so in compensation bob gets like 10 ppl +9.5 standing
well you still have 3 player owned station +those npc ones (the only region in 0.0 that has this luxus).
And you can still claim those system except for the ones with the Blood Raider Stations right? Not much off a loss if you ask me.
I still don't understand why CCP needed to add more NPC stations into 0.0 space in the first place. It's complety against the content by the players policy.
PS: I fully undertand that you weren't happy about those station so no need to flame :).
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Rodney Munch
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Posted - 2005.08.08 14:58:00 -
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Quote:
I still don't understand why CCP needed to add more NPC stations into 0.0 space in the first place. It's complety against the content by the players policy.
No sh*t
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.08.08 14:59:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Acwron
well you still have 3 player owned station +those npc ones (the only region in 0.0 that has this luxus).
And you can still claim those system except for the ones with the Blood Raider Stations right? Not much off a loss if you ask me.
No, the entire region is Blood Raider sovereignty. As in, already claimed
Originally by: Acwron
I still don't understand why CCP needed to add more NPC stations into 0.0 space in the first place. It's complety against the content by the players policy.
PS: I fully undertand that you weren't happy about those station so no need to flame :).
They needed a place for the Blood Raiders after the empire kicked em out. Delve was the most logical place to put them
[Come to Daddy]
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Alasse Cuthalion
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Posted - 2005.08.08 15:01:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Acwron
Originally by: Lilan Kahn
think abut bob had a nice 0.0 place with no fraktion stations, less baseing for randoms to base out from now ccp come and dump station in there region so in compensation bob gets like 10 ppl +9.5 standing
well you still have 3 player owned station +those npc ones (the only region in 0.0 that has this luxus).
And you can still claim those system except for the ones with the Blood Raider Stations right? Not much off a loss if you ask me.
I still don't understand why CCP needed to add more NPC stations into 0.0 space in the first place. It's complety against the content by the players policy.
Actually, it's completely pointless having conquerable stations next door to NPC ones, there's absolutely zero incentive for people to make use of the refinery (and therefore us to make profit from the tax), also we're now unable to stop neutrals from entering our space and setting up home in the stations as we cannot control who can and cannot dock which makes it infintley easier for an enemy alliance to attack us, as they can simply base out of our own space.
Secondly, CCP made a big boo boo, every single system in delve is claimed by the Blood Raiders and it's costing us hundreds of millions worth of resources every day.
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SpaceDrake Storyteller
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Posted - 2005.08.08 15:05:00 -
[45]
What's great is, all of the major BoB guys incluing ******* Mr.Spoon himself are telling the alts, "there's no problem here." This is supposed to be a pro-BoB whine, but the head BoBers are shooting it down. Classic.
Besides, I thought BoB was a nomadic alliance anyway, moving from region to region conquering as they go like Mongols In Space or somesuch. Why should they care about what goes into Delve? I don't think they'll be there till the end of time anyway.
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Wild Rho
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Posted - 2005.08.08 15:05:00 -
[46]
Thank god I don't rp
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callon
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Posted - 2005.08.08 15:11:00 -
[47]
Does this mean [5] should get 9.5 with Angels? :S
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Acwron
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Posted - 2005.08.08 15:13:00 -
[48]
Edited by: Acwron on 08/08/2005 15:14:16
Originally by: Discorporation
Originally by: Acwron
well you still have 3 player owned station +those npc ones (the only region in 0.0 that has this luxus).
And you can still claim those system except for the ones with the Blood Raider Stations right? Not much off a loss if you ask me.
No, the entire region is Blood Raider sovereignty. As in, already claimed
Oh thats interesting. Well I got it wrong from the map then. (Curse and Stain fully pirat sovereignty, while e.g. in Fountain one is able to claim system). I thought I would be like Fountain.
Guess that makes those player owned stations even more special (being the only ones without POS security).
Originally by: Discorporation
Originally by: Acwron
I still don't understand why CCP needed to add more NPC stations into 0.0 space in the first place. It's complety against the content by the players policy.
PS: I fully undertand that you weren't happy about those station so no need to flame :).
They needed a place for the Blood Raiders after the empire kicked em out. Delve was the most logical place to put them
Yeah but it's not like the story line was written in stone. :) Come on more NPC stations? Even Rob didn't like it. Guess it's the little agent runner speaking out of you disc. 
As for the refining stuff. Well as long as you keep the tax at a reasonable level (say it makes more sense refining at the station not a POS) the income is hardly much. A single veteran player should by able at least what you can make from 2 regions refining tax in a month. Some nice pocket money but hardly important.
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Kehmor
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Posted - 2005.08.08 15:13:00 -
[49]
Originally by: callon
Does this mean [5] should get 9.5 with Angels? :S
yes
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Aodha Khan
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Posted - 2005.08.08 15:14:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion
Secondly, CCP made a big boo boo, every single system in delve is claimed by the Blood Raiders and it's costing us hundreds of millions worth of resources every day.
I thought that only the systems down near the BR stations was BR territory. It gets worse the more I find out about this whole issue.
So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak. |
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Zeraph Dregamon
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Posted - 2005.08.08 15:14:00 -
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Guess that's where BNC got the three Bhaalgorns they were gatecamping Tannolen in.
Wonder how many more BoB got.. 12 more ?
GH-SC
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Alasse Cuthalion
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Posted - 2005.08.08 15:21:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Zeraph Dregamon
Guess that's where BNC got the three Bhaalgorns they were gatecamping Tannolen in.
Wonder how many more BoB got.. 12 more ?
Wrong.
BNC are a bunch of carebears.
:P
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Alasse Cuthalion
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Posted - 2005.08.08 15:23:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Aodha Khan
Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion
Secondly, CCP made a big boo boo, every single system in delve is claimed by the Blood Raiders and it's costing us hundreds of millions worth of resources every day.
I thought that only the systems down near the BR stations was BR territory. It gets worse the more I find out about this whole issue.
That's how it's supposed to work I believe, or at least that's the case in Fountain, Curse, etc.
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Denny Crane
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Posted - 2005.08.08 15:24:00 -
[54]
Greetings,
This is absolutely outrageous. CCP claims to be Pro-RP then does something as dastardly as this. Support your local Blood Raider!
Denny Crane
Chancellor
Black Storm Clan
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Astarte Nosferatu
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Posted - 2005.08.08 15:25:00 -
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When we did the Mabnen I event where the Vitoc Cure was released killing millions of people, we also didn't get ANY reward. We had to move the cure through empire space (which already prohibited 3-4 of our gang to join cause they had -10 sec rating) in indies, in the territory of CVA and AM, each of them 10 times bigger then us, and we didn't get our name mentioned in the news article?
When Delve gets some stations, BoB gets +9.5 standings and the CEO's get a couple of billions in their wallet, to TRY and make a NAP with the Blood Raider RP'ers, while we had to move +80j round trip to move our stuff, without ANY logistical aid of the Blood Covenant, without ANY form of compensation or being asked about in the first place.
Why did we have to move anyways? We weren't losing the war, sometimes we won a battle, sometimes our enemies, but we weren't defeated by a long shot. So it even doesn't makes sense from a RP point of view.
ISD can lick em, and do their own hauling missions.
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Member of the [23]
Follower of the Blood Revolution.
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Nifel
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Posted - 2005.08.08 15:29:00 -
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Only the systems marked as BR on the sovereignty map should be BR. There's a bug though marking the entire region as BR meaning we can't claim the other systems in Delve which hurts our POS industry quite a bit.
"We wield swords for the sound of laughter that used to be there long ago." |
Altai Saker
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Posted - 2005.08.08 15:36:00 -
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Uh-huh, CCP royally screw bobs region over, then give them some kickbacks... Wheres all this whinage come from?
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Kehmor
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Posted - 2005.08.08 15:40:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Altai Saker
Uh-huh, CCP royally screw bobs region over, then give them some kickbacks... Wheres all this whinage come from?
the guys that got royally screwed with no kickbacks
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Astarte Nosferatu
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Posted - 2005.08.08 15:42:00 -
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Originally by: Kehmor
Originally by: Altai Saker
Uh-huh, CCP royally screw bobs region over, then give them some kickbacks... Wheres all this whinage come from?
the guys that got royally screwed with no kickbacks
He's right you know ^^
Doesn't happen very often I agree with Kehmor, but he has a point on this one. 
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Follower of the Blood Revolution.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.08.08 15:45:00 -
[60]
As I was actually involved in that conversation, I can safely assure you all that we asked for an awful lot more than what we got. Those of you in the game who understand the modus operandi of BoB will realise that us agreeing to allowing goddamned NPC stations in OUR region is so far departed from how we actually play the game that it's not even funny. We went from one of the most secure regions in the game, to just like any other old NPC sovereignty space and bought with it the most bugged region of sovereignty in the game, bar none - it's costing us billions.
So, we asked for stuff, we got a TOKEN gesture - we didn't receive ANY direct compensation AT ALL. We got standings, and we got thorns in our side in the the form of NPC stations that we can't control.
If you all think that we OR the roleplayers came off good in that deal then might I suggest you buy some tech 2 clues, thanks.
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