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luZk
x13 Whores in space
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Posted - 2013.03.01 07:11:00 -
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I dont mind scammers. Infact I would'nt have my Jita without it. I think it's a part of eve.
But this "player" have been spamming Jita local for the last 10 days 23/7 every 3-5 second. I know for a fact that people have been talking in Jita local about this person as a spambot so I find it hard to believe this has not been petitioned. If not a bot then at least ban this "player" for continuous spamming. Im not going to mention any names but anyone who spends more than 10 mins in Jita would know who im talking about.
So I guess my question is does CCP now allow bot spamming? http://z0r.de/3808
"statistics show that only ~50% of the players run dx11-ready systems" --áCCP Mankiller |

Hannah Flex
laissez-faire economics
234
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Posted - 2013.03.01 07:20:00 -
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Leave Jita
Oh wait, you cant |

Psychotic Pyro
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.03.01 07:20:00 -
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Short answer, No
stop reading jita local and your problem is solved. |

luZk
x13 Whores in space
141
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Posted - 2013.03.01 07:24:00 -
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Hannah Flex wrote:Leave Jita Oh wait, you cant
Oh I see this is some kind of psychological warfare. Well played indeed! http://z0r.de/3808
"statistics show that only ~50% of the players run dx11-ready systems" --áCCP Mankiller |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
7301
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Posted - 2013.03.01 07:31:00 -
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I'm happy to name names...
http://evelocal.com/Jita/p/Space_Otichoda
http://evelocal.com/Jita/p/STRAYDOG1
http://evelocal.com/p/Mademoiselle_Djinn
http://evelocal.com/p/Miss_Becky
Why not make that macro timer more obvious...
http://evelocal.com/stats/Jita
/c
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S'Way
Bitter Vets
452
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Posted - 2013.03.01 07:35:00 -
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Any chance of you doing a new update of your "six months in Jita" sometime Chribba ? would be interesting to see if much has changed in the months since then. |

luZk
x13 Whores in space
141
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Posted - 2013.03.01 07:36:00 -
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Ty Chribba! http://z0r.de/3808
"statistics show that only ~50% of the players run dx11-ready systems" --áCCP Mankiller |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
7302
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Posted - 2013.03.01 07:40:00 -
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S'Way wrote:Any chance of you doing a new update of your "six months in Jita" sometime Chribba ? would be interesting to see if much has changed in the months since then. things changed, it gotten worse of course. even more spam/bots now than it was then heh. But yeah prolly will be another one sometime. But it's too early now and as far as I can see, CCP hasn't done anything since that publication back in October.
/c
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I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
362
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Posted - 2013.03.01 07:42:00 -
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The block feature works ya know. Sure, would be nice to have CCP do something about the spam bots, but until they do, just block them.  ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o )
The world would be a better place if boobies ran the world instead of boobs. |

luZk
x13 Whores in space
141
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Posted - 2013.03.01 07:43:00 -
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Im starting to think this is infact some kind of test by CCP themselves. If so CCP please make it stop, you have my unconditional surrender. :whiteflag: http://z0r.de/3808
"statistics show that only ~50% of the players run dx11-ready systems" --áCCP Mankiller |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
7302
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Posted - 2013.03.01 07:45:00 -
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I've got something new in the works as well though that will combat the spam more until CCP actually starts doing something 
/c
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Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
1043
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Posted - 2013.03.01 07:56:00 -
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CCP Chribba has a nice ring to it.  EvE Forum Bingo |

Bob Nesta Marley
Republic University Minmatar Republic
28
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Posted - 2013.03.01 08:22:00 -
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Ey brudda, dis ting be on and on and on and on me come der no more, seen? Jita be de bots, seen? |

Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
1121
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Posted - 2013.03.01 08:56:00 -
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Jita has a local? Nyan |

Azami Nevinyrall
Carbon Circle Tactical Narcotics Team
713
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Posted - 2013.03.01 08:56:00 -
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Who owns those bots.............there's your answer. I'm not entirely clear on the point of this... but I do have a sudden urge to jump in a catalyst and blow up a miner... Twitter! - @AzamiNevinyrall |

Chal0ner
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
39
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Posted - 2013.03.01 11:20:00 -
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Rakshasa Taisab wrote:Jita has a local?
Wasn't even aware Eve had a Jita? Is it contagious?
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Nightshade Mary
Sarz'na Khumatari The Unthinkables
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Posted - 2013.03.01 11:28:00 -
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Makes one wonder if a "text spam blocking bot" would be within the EULA... |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
7315
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Posted - 2013.03.01 11:53:00 -
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Nightshade Mary wrote:Makes one wonder if a "text spam blocking bot" would be within the EULA... If it is a bot posting like... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . this.
I sure as hell hope it gets banned too! If there's one thing more annoying than the spambots themselves, it's the pilots that think they help by posting like that.
For the very simple reason that the spambots are swiftly right-click-blocked - anti-spam forces you to try and scroll back at which time he posted again making you out of the scroll loop again.
/c
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Angelique Duchemin
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.03.01 11:57:00 -
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I agree. Blocking the bots is easy but it does me no good when legitimate pilots make the chat roll by like a slot machine anyway with their responses and taunts of the bots. You can't offend a program. All you can do is amplify the harm it does. |

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
2283
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Posted - 2013.03.01 11:57:00 -
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Tbh I like CCP Otherworlder better... Go Chribbs! |

Spurty
V0LTA Verge of Collapse
808
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Posted - 2013.03.01 12:03:00 -
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I laughed harder than I really should of at:
http://evelocal.com/stats/CSM_Townhall
As for jita bots, 8 x right click "block" and all is well --- GÇ£If you think this Universe is bad, you should see some of the others.GÇ¥ GÇò Philip K. **** |

0Lona 0ltor
EldarRiders SCUM.
32
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Posted - 2013.03.01 12:38:00 -
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Duh the easy way to get CCP to fix botting is to make bots that spam every forum page. Get 10 of your eve buddies make a few accounts and trash the forums. One plex well spent, the irony is that you got you can afford to do this from your RMT null sec isk bot. |

Adaahh Gee
Rock jockeyz High Rollers
49
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Posted - 2013.03.01 12:48:00 -
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But....CCP likes scam-bots. If people get scammed out of ISK, they rage and buy Plex, that then drops precious IRL cash in CCP's pocket.
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Azami Nevinyrall
Carbon Circle Tactical Narcotics Team
713
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Posted - 2013.03.01 12:56:00 -
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*Still waiting for lock before answer to question.* I'm not entirely clear on the point of this... but I do have a sudden urge to jump in a catalyst and blow up a miner... Twitter! - @AzamiNevinyrall |

Nova Satar
Rekall Incorporated Sinewave Alliance
36
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Posted - 2013.03.01 12:57:00 -
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Cheers for the links Chribba. ^^^^
And to anyone coming in this thread saying "leave local" or "block list?" please just shut the **** up. Some people want to be in jita and the second you block one then another one spawns.
How hard is it to just add a session timer hyperlinks in chat channels? You can only hyperlink once every 2 minutes. Problem solved.
EDIT, look at the counter for the most spammed message in Local at the moment... SOmebody has spammed a contract about Plexes 8500 times?!? |

Ydnari
Estrale Frontiers Project Wildfire
159
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Posted - 2013.03.01 13:10:00 -
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Chribba wrote:I've got something new in the works as well though that will combat the spam more until CCP actually starts doing something  /c
maybe a page that uses your spam stats to gather a list of spammer chars and then calls the IGB javascript Block function on all the characters in bulk?
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/IGB_Javascript_Methods#block_Method
although since you can only make one IGB javascript call per second that might take a while to run  |

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
927
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Posted - 2013.03.01 14:54:00 -
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I Love Boobies wrote:The block feature works ya know. Sure, would be nice to have CCP do something about the spam bots, but until they do, just block them.  I'm beginning to wonder if there's an upper limit to the block list? 'Cause I've been a blocking monster. Sometimes I manage to get far enough ahead of the spambots that I can discern actual conversation threads between real people.
But mostly, any more, I just ignore Jita Local channel.
Top for Jita: 1. [Want To Buy] WTB 2 PLEX 1.5 BILLION NEED IT FAST!!!

8937 times in 24 hours.
 Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Malcanis for CSM8 |

Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
212
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Posted - 2013.03.01 15:05:00 -
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Chribba you are our only hope. Not today spaghetti. |

Ergoth Greylore
The Three Gadgeteers
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Posted - 2013.03.01 15:48:00 -
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Luzk told me about this 
Chribba is there anyway you can make a page with the top 10 spammers of the last 24 hours and how many lines of top notch spam they have giving. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
7328
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Posted - 2013.03.01 16:00:00 -
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Ergoth Greylore wrote:Luzk told me about this  Chribba is there anyway you can make a page with the top 10 spammers of the last 24 hours and how many lines of top notch spam they have giving. http://evelocal.com/stats/Jita is pretty much what you look for - not saying they are all bots but you gotta be doing something to be on the top...
/c
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Lady Godwynn
Cobalt Valkyrie Industries Ping Federation
80
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Posted - 2013.03.01 16:08:00 -
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Maybe when they finally get off their behinds and do something about bots in the busiest system in game the result could be that there would be enough room in Jita for everyone who wanted to get in without hitting the user limit.
It's a f* disgrace.
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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
927
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Posted - 2013.03.01 16:33:00 -
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Lady Godwynn wrote:Maybe when they finally get off their behinds and do something about bots in the busiest system in game the result could be that there would be enough room in Jita for everyone who wanted to get in without hitting the user limit.
It's a f* disgrace.
Maybe as simple as ejecting spammers into a near-by system. In space. With a criminal flag. Would discourage human spammers as well as the bots. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Malcanis for CSM8 |

HollyShocker 2inthestink
State War Academy Caldari State
170
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Posted - 2013.03.01 16:46:00 -
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I Love Boobies wrote:The block feature works ya know. Sure, would be nice to have CCP do something about the spam bots, but until they do, just block them. 
Would take all day to block that many. Bottom line is if its not legal for one it should not be legal for any. |

Major 'Revolver' Ocelot
GRU Special Forces
39
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Posted - 2013.03.01 17:00:00 -
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This annoys me as well, though I notice it's mainly contracts that are being spammed. So I made a suggestion to add a 1-2 minute cooldown between each contract post on local chat.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2672448#post2672448
Show your support! I love to reload during a battle!-áThere's nothing like the feeling of slamming a long silver missile into a well greased chamber... |

Callic Veratar
Power of the Phoenix
339
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Posted - 2013.03.01 17:09:00 -
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Nova Satar wrote:And to anyone coming in this thread saying "leave local" or "block list?" please just shut the **** up. Some people want to be in jita and the second you block one then another one spawns.
How hard is it to just add a session timer hyperlinks in chat channels? You can only hyperlink once every 2 minutes. Problem solved.
EDIT, look at the counter for the most spammed message in Local at the moment... SOmebody has spammed a contract about Plexes 8500 times?!?
You seem to be contradicting yourself. This is a dozen people spamming the same message, not someone spamming new accounts. It shouldn't be too hard to block them all. Posting on the forums would have been harder than blocking them.
Also, "oops I posted the wrong link, I'll post the right one... in 2 minutes". DirectX 11, it's not rocket appliance! |

Kristopher Rocancourt
Quality Assurance The Marmite Collective
61
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Posted - 2013.03.01 17:09:00 -
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Question: why does anyone CARE what is said in Jita local.
the only thing i ever type there is 'GF' after i pod someone, and that is scolled away in a millisecond.
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Captain Tardbar
NEWB ALERT
180
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Posted - 2013.03.01 17:16:00 -
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Its not just that these botters are spamming Jita local (its already useless) it is that they are taking up the limited number of population slots in Jita making it harder to get in the system. "Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down. |

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
930
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Posted - 2013.03.01 17:17:00 -
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Kristopher Rocancourt wrote:Question: why does anyone CARE what is said in Jita local.
the only thing i ever type there is 'GF' after i pod someone, and that is scolled away in a millisecond.
Bcause if it were not so overrun with 'bots, real people could use it effectively. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Malcanis for CSM8 |

Jensaro Koraka
State War Academy Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.03.01 17:21:00 -
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luZk wrote:I dont mind scammers. Infact I would'nt have my Jita without it. I think it's a part of eve.
But this "player" have been spamming Jita local for the last 10 days 23/7 every 3-5 second. I know for a fact that people have been talking in Jita local about this person as a spambot so I find it hard to believe this has not been petitioned. If not a bot then at least ban this "player" for continuous spamming. Im not going to mention any names but anyone who spends more than 10 mins in Jita would know who im talking about.
So I guess my question is does CCP now allow bot spamming? Jita has local? "Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." -H.L. Mencken |

Daimar Lavode
5
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Posted - 2013.03.01 17:48:00 -
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silens vesica wrote:I'm beginning to wonder if there's an upper limit to the block list? 'Cause I've been a blocking monster.
I hope not, I'm somewhere over 8,600 blocked and don't want to erase it to cleanse all the spambots that have been biomassed over the years. |

Dheeradj Nurgle
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
272
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Posted - 2013.03.01 17:59:00 -
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PilotCount (%) 1.Space Otichoda9961 (31.33%)
Math was never my strongest point, but that is way to obvious. 415 times per hour. 6 times per minute. (assuming he's there for 24 hours.) |

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
931
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Posted - 2013.03.01 18:01:00 -
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Dheeradj Nurgle wrote:PilotCount (%) 1.Space Otichoda9961 (31.33%)
Math was never my strongest point, but that is way to obvious. 415 times per hour. 6 times per minute. (assuming he's there for 24 hours.) Slightly more often - must account for downtime. Impressive. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
7339
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Posted - 2013.03.01 18:09:00 -
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silens vesica wrote:Dheeradj Nurgle wrote:PilotCount (%) 1.Space Otichoda9961 (31.33%)
Math was never my strongest point, but that is way to obvious. 415 times per hour. 6 times per minute. (assuming he's there for 24 hours.) Slightly more often - must account for downtime. Impressive. It takes about 2 sec to realize that it's a macro and not a person, his posting timers every 6s is (I would like to claim) impossible to carry out for a person for that duration. Even some small CCP tool could spot those and ban instantly if they wanted.
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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
932
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Posted - 2013.03.01 18:32:00 -
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Chribba wrote:silens vesica wrote:Dheeradj Nurgle wrote:PilotCount (%) 1.Space Otichoda9961 (31.33%)
Math was never my strongest point, but that is way to obvious. 415 times per hour. 6 times per minute. (assuming he's there for 24 hours.) Slightly more often - must account for downtime. Impressive. It takes about 2 sec to realize that it's a macro and not a person, his posting timers every 6s is (I would like to claim) impossible to carry out for a person for that duration. Even some small CCP tool could spot those and ban instantly if they wanted. Damn. Wormhole ate my post.
Anyway, as I was trying to say... His (its?) frequency is impressive, compared to most other apparent macros. Makes him an A1 target for the banhammer. If CCP banned spambots, that is.
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Malcanis for CSM8 |

UKBigWolf
2
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Posted - 2013.03.01 18:32:00 -
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Tbf, Amarr has had an increase of players that appear to be using Macros/Bots I'd imagine the other hubs might be the same also?
End of the day, many players will do whatever they think they can get away with, and the block list is only a stop-gap since alot of alts are recycled every couple of weeks |

Mara Tessidar
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
774
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Posted - 2013.03.01 18:55:00 -
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As usual, the best manner in which to force CCP to do something about an obvious problem like this is to publicly humiliate them with some bad press.
Chribba, don't be so nice about all this. Go talk to The Mittani or someone else who writes for themittani.com. Get an article up, and let people know CCP is blatantly ignoring bots in the most populated system in the game. Reading the EVEO forums is like huffing gas or sniffing glue. Sure it's funny and you get high, but you pay a terrible, terrible price in the long run. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
7342
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Posted - 2013.03.01 19:00:00 -
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silens vesica wrote:Chribba wrote:silens vesica wrote:Dheeradj Nurgle wrote:PilotCount (%) 1.Space Otichoda9961 (31.33%)
Math was never my strongest point, but that is way to obvious. 415 times per hour. 6 times per minute. (assuming he's there for 24 hours.) Slightly more often - must account for downtime. Impressive. It takes about 2 sec to realize that it's a macro and not a person, his posting timers every 6s is (I would like to claim) impossible to carry out for a person for that duration. Even some small CCP tool could spot those and ban instantly if they wanted. Damn. Wormhole ate my post. Anyway, as I was trying to say... His (its?) frequency is impressive, compared to most other apparent macros. Makes him an A1 target for the banhammer. If CCP banned spambots, that is. Fully agree.
Mara Tessidar wrote:As usual, the best manner in which to force CCP to do something about an obvious problem like this is to publicly humiliate them with some bad press.
Chribba, don't be so nice about all this. Go talk to The Mittani or someone else who writes for themittani.com. Get an article up, and let people know CCP is blatantly ignoring bots in the most populated system in the game. Yeah like http://themittani.com/features/chribbas-jita-spam-bot-research which sadly did not produce the amount of lowering of spam we could have hoped for. But hopefully the lack is a build up to something way bigger and more automatic. Can only hope.
/c
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Mara Tessidar
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
774
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                     Reading the EVEO forums is like huffing gas or sniffing glue. Sure it's funny and you get high, but you pay a terrible, terrible price in the long run. |

Cyprus Black
The Learning Curve.
675
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Posted - 2013.03.01 20:11:00 -
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The straydog1 guy isn't really a scammer. He's an RMT spamming bot. Trolling is like art. Anyone can finger paint, but it takes true talent to create a masterpiece. |

UKBigWolf
3
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Posted - 2013.03.01 20:47:00 -
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Lets be honest, we all know it's happening CCP know it's happening We know that they know it's happening They know that we know it's happening
Yet nothing seems to happen
Of course, we know even if CCP does warn/suspend/ban all the obvious ones, it'll lead to the more complicated ones becoming common place There are a few 'bots' that will spam local, but each message will be slightly different (basically I'm guessing the bot/macro has a large list of messages and it randomly picks one and posts it, and it wouldn't be hard to ensure repeats don't happen) |

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
936
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Posted - 2013.03.01 20:51:00 -
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UKBigWolf wrote: Of course, we know even if CCP does warn/suspend/ban all the obvious ones, it'll lead to the more complicated ones becoming common place There are a few 'bots' that will spam local, but each message will be slightly different (basically I'm guessing the bot/macro has a large list of messages and it randomly picks one and posts it, and it wouldn't be hard to ensure repeats don't happen)
Plausible.
Alternatively; more spambots, posting less frequently. Which wouldn't help the population situation any, to be sure.
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
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