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Crushing Abyss
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Posted - 2005.08.09 20:51:00 -
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Hello everyone. I'm new and have been lurking around for a bit getting a feel for the game and the other players.
I have a take on logging during combat you pirates might find interesting. I agree, it is a silly tactic, but for different reasons that I have heard from most people so far.
You see, there is something missing from my ship control console. A big red button with bright yellow letters that say, "BLOW THIS MUTHA UP". Where is my ship self destruct button? In the age of cloning and ship insurance, I would much rather nuke all my cargo and ship modules to dust than let a pirate have them.
I can feel the flames now. "this would destroy the pirate economy.." waaaa waaa waaaaa. boohoo. So what. Adapt.
Until that time I can see why people log and switch chars. Hooray for them I say.
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2005.08.09 20:56:00 -
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You can self-destruct - it's in one of the menues if you right-click on your ship. It takes 2 minutes though.
Note that the pvp logoff timer is extended to 15 minutes, so logging off should in most cases result in death now.
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Liu Kaskakka
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Posted - 2005.08.09 21:20:00 -
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Originally by: Crushing Abyss Hello everyone. I'm new and have been lurking around for a bit getting a feel for the game and the other players.
Step away from the keyboard, after 3 weeks of lurking you are not ready for forum whoring. You must silently lurk for at least 6 months.
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I can feel the flames now. "this would destroy the pirate economy.." waaaa waaa waaaaa. boohoo. So what. Adapt.
errrr, no it wouldn't.
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Layrex
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Posted - 2005.08.09 21:51:00 -
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I was looking for a chance to test this out (not that I usually do it). Quitting of course dosn't work, but people were saying hitting reset works. So earlier today when I was doomed at the hands of a frig fleet I tried that, it dosn't work. ------------------------------
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Tekka
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Posted - 2005.08.09 22:02:00 -
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Layrex
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Posted - 2005.08.09 22:07:00 -
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Originally by: Tekka

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Ikvar
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Posted - 2005.08.10 01:39:00 -
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Reading this thread makes my brain hurt. __________________
Ikvar & Sons Legal, WE WILL FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHTS!
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Arimas Talasko
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Posted - 2005.08.10 02:08:00 -
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I do not understand Supremacy Keepin it Real
Originally by: Daniel Jackson PLEASE TELL US WHY, WHY DO U WANT US TO DIE, I AM JUST GOING FRIGGEN INSAIGN
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Mougi Enigma
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Posted - 2005.08.10 02:08:00 -
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I had an idea similar to this, the big red button idea not the logging idea. Basically my idea was a large bomb that you have to buy and carry around in your cargo hold. Taking up 40 to 50% of your cargo space. Once your ship gets to about half structure you would have the option to activate it. The bomb would incinerate everything on your ship, including you. So for those people with the expensive implants using the bomb might not be the best of ideas. But for those with no implants and alot of expensive gear on your ship that you don't want to fall into the wrong hands it's a good solution. Just a thought.
Mougi
Out of every 100 men 10 should not even be there, 80 are just targets, 9 are fighter, we are thankful to have them, for they make the battle. But ONE, one is a warrior and he will see the rest home. |

Trina Tron
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Posted - 2005.08.10 02:34:00 -
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Originally by: Crushing Abyss
I can feel the flames now. "this would destroy the pirate economy.." waaaa waaa waaaaa. boohoo. So what. Adapt.
Oh yeah your getting flamed but not for why you thought you would. ---------------------------------------------------
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Pwyle Kenobi
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Posted - 2005.08.10 02:55:00 -
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Originally by: Mougi Enigma I had an idea similar to this, the big red button idea not the logging idea. Basically my idea was a large bomb that you have to buy and carry around in your cargo hold. Taking up 40 to 50% of your cargo space. Once your ship gets to about half structure you would have the option to activate it. The bomb would incinerate everything on your ship, including you. So for those people with the expensive implants using the bomb might not be the best of ideas. But for those with no implants and alot of expensive gear on your ship that you don't want to fall into the wrong hands it's a good solution. Just a thought.
Mougi
How about this for a variation on a theme. A button to "overload" your engines and then have the ability to ram the enemy ship causing your destruction and massive damage to the other ship (if you can close the distance in time). A new breed of Kamikaze tactics! 
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Menelak Faf
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Posted - 2005.08.10 03:09:00 -
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Suicide kestrel suddenly takes on a whole new meaning.
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PsyBoRG
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Posted - 2005.08.10 04:46:00 -
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Originally by: Crushing Abyss Hello everyone. I'm new and have been lurking around for a bit getting a feel for the game and the other players.
I have a take on logging during combat you pirates might find interesting. I agree, it is a silly tactic, but for different reasons that I have heard from most people so far.
You see, there is something missing from my ship control console. A big red button with bright yellow letters that say, "BLOW THIS MUTHA UP". Where is my ship self destruct button? In the age of cloning and ship insurance, I would much rather nuke all my cargo and ship modules to dust than let a pirate have them.
I can feel the flames now. "this would destroy the pirate economy.." waaaa waaa waaaaa. boohoo. So what. Adapt.
Until that time I can see why people log and switch chars. Hooray for them I say.
hmmm oki there is something missing from mine to big red button saying "buuhuu carebear buuhuuu" which of course blows up all rats and roids in eve...
actualy this would not destroy the pirate economy wont change anything else then that after that no one would ever get ship ransomed not even by rp corps and everyone would just use small 1 volley fleet setups (t2 tempest comes to mind) so they kill with in 1 second somehow that does not sound fun to either the miner or the pirate
Pay me!!!!!!1111111 |

hired goon
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Posted - 2005.08.10 08:25:00 -
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Everyone says PVP timer will mean you're dead even if logged out. But what about logging into another bloke, then you vanish, right? ------------
We come in peace. And tanks. |

TuRtLe HeAd
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Posted - 2005.08.10 09:14:00 -
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Edited by: TuRtLe HeAd on 10/08/2005 09:14:17 Intereesting, That would mean that you could log off a character thats in PvP, Log in an ALT (In the Same System) And Effectively Kill yourself ! Now thats one for the Pyschologists in EvE. |

Rodge
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Posted - 2005.08.10 09:16:00 -
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Originally by: hired goon Everyone says PVP timer will mean you're dead even if logged out. But what about logging into another bloke, then you vanish, right?
The age-old exploit. As far as I've seen it's still ingame 
[ 2005.04.17 00:34:30 ] Nagilam > u better leave Rodge, u will not gank any1 else 2nite......
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Kuolematon
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Posted - 2005.08.10 09:17:00 -
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There IS device that will inflict tons and tons of damage, wiping out frigates and cruisers along yourself but players cannot get that device (Named Hellfire if I remember right).
I would love to have button like that. It would rock my world, right Liu?  _______________________________________________ My opinions aren't my corporations opinions.
"I troll, therefor I am!" //\\ Suomi-Finland-Perkele asennetta! |

Gabby05
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Posted - 2005.08.10 11:03:00 -
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Originally by: Crushing Abyss Hello everyone. I'm new and have been lurking around for a bit getting a feel for the game and the other players.
I have a take on logging during combat you pirates might find interesting. I agree, it is a silly tactic, but for different reasons that I have heard from most people so far.
You see, there is something missing from my ship control console. A big red button with bright yellow letters that say, "BLOW THIS MUTHA UP". Where is my ship self destruct button? In the age of cloning and ship insurance, I would much rather nuke all my cargo and ship modules to dust than let a pirate have them.
I can feel the flames now. "this would destroy the pirate economy.." waaaa waaa waaaaa. boohoo. So what. Adapt.
Until that time I can see why people log and switch chars. Hooray for them I say.
Not much use anyways, since it take 3 minutes for your ship to eventually blow up, even if you could delay em for that long everyone gets an alert message saying you selected "Self-destruct".
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ReaperOfSly
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Posted - 2005.08.10 16:11:00 -
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Hmm does self destruct have a blast radius then?
/me imagines the possibilities of setting a ship to self destruct just outside the launch tube at Yulai X-DED  --------------------------------------------
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Liu Kaskakka
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Posted - 2005.08.10 16:56:00 -
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Originally by: Kuolematon I would love to have button like that. It would rock my world, right Liu? 
No, because the you'd be too afraid to use it.
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Crushing Abyss
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Posted - 2005.08.10 21:13:00 -
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Bah I was hoping to see the guns come out but everyone has been very civil, helpful even. 
O.K. there is a 2 min. self destruct, that's good to know. I was hoping for something more like 5-10 seconds, even if it took cargo space or a module slot. I like the ramming idea too. I was a little annoyed the first time I collided with an asteroid and it did no damage. Somewhat unrealistic but whatever.
I always assumed pirates were able to make decent income ransoming and looting modules. If not, there are no real true pirates correct? If you can not make a living doing it, you are doing it for other reasons and are not truely a pirate by trade. Griefers would be a more accurate term. Am I missing something?
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Moghydin
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Posted - 2005.08.10 22:47:00 -
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Originally by: Crushing Abyss
I always assumed pirates were able to make decent income ransoming and looting modules. If not, there are no real true pirates correct? If you can not make a living doing it, you are doing it for other reasons and are not truely a pirate by trade. Griefers would be a more accurate term. Am I missing something?
You are not missing a thing. Most of the "pirates" in Eve are not pirates, but what you said. Oh, another definition that can be used is PKers.
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Darkside101
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Posted - 2005.08.11 03:46:00 -
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Er, not sure anyone will thank me for this but if your being ganked and your 100% sure your going to die, eject your cargo into space and blow the crap out of it, problem solved, as for your ship mods, well, we all have to make a living somehow 
yarr DS101 |

DMAN666vic
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Posted - 2005.08.11 04:02:00 -
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Originally by: Pwyle Kenobi
How about this for a variation on a theme. A button to "overload" your engines and then have the ability to ram the enemy ship causing your destruction and massive damage to the other ship (if you can close the distance in time). A new breed of Kamikaze tactics! 
There should be a button, or menu selection, that that will initiate a "warp core overload" destroying everything in and around the belt or gate and causing damage to everything else in the system.
The Kamakazi aspect of the game would take a whole new meaning.
And, as a punishment for doing so you take a major sec hit
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Teh Shaz
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Posted - 2005.08.11 11:53:00 -
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A much more weird way to do something when engaged to pirates is this, the person ejects. Happened to us one time while engaged with a ferox in a complex. The guy ejected and ran, leaving his ferox behind. So odd, the guy must have had a lot in his head. The ferox was soon killed by a rat in the complex though .
Logging out in combat doesn't work anymore. Your ship WILL die, but your pod will stay alive. It's so annoying, but thats how it works out. -------------------
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Tonkin
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Posted - 2005.08.11 17:56:00 -
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logging in combat please, i rather b pod killed if i loose my ship, it pain to get bck in a damn pod
unles using instas
if u got plus 5 plants and dnt want to loose them well get ur miners out and stay in 0.9-1.0
loggin is cowardis
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Bobby Wilson
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Posted - 2005.08.11 18:22:00 -
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People used to self destruct during combat. That is why it is now a 2 minute timer to self destruct. I also believe you don't get insurance if you self destruct.
So no, if I'm dead to rights, I'm going down with my ship fighting, and focussed on getting my pod out alive.
BW
Originally by: Nervar We allready play EvE wich by definition allready makes us the most patient people on the planet.
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Srewolf Bane
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Posted - 2005.08.11 23:12:00 -
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Originally by: Crushing Abyss Hello everyone. I'm new and have been lurking around for a bit getting a feel for the game and the other players.
I have a take on logging during combat you pirates might find interesting. I agree, it is a silly tactic, but for different reasons that I have heard from most people so far.
You see, there is something missing from my ship control console. A big red button with bright yellow letters that say, "BLOW THIS MUTHA UP". Where is my ship self destruct button? In the age of cloning and ship insurance, I would much rather nuke all my cargo and ship modules to dust than let a pirate have them.
I can feel the flames now. "this would destroy the pirate economy.." waaaa waaa waaaaa. boohoo. So what. Adapt.
Until that time I can see why people log and switch chars. Hooray for them I say.
Fantastic idea! Wouldnt that just **** off pirates if we could do that...LOL..
I see no reason a miner should not be able to do this, its somthing that fits into "reality".
Any PvPer who logs in a fight is just plain stupid and honor-less, but I totaly understand miners doing it. Miners should have a self destruct button on thier ships. ------------------------------------------------ "I feel sorry for people who don't drink, when they wake up in the morning that's the best they will feel all day" - Frank Sinatra |

Arimas Talasko
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Posted - 2005.08.11 23:52:00 -
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Originally by: Crushing Abyss Bah I was hoping to see the guns come out but everyone has been very civil, helpful even. 
O.K. there is a 2 min. self destruct, that's good to know. I was hoping for something more like 5-10 seconds, even if it took cargo space or a module slot. I like the ramming idea too. I was a little annoyed the first time I collided with an asteroid and it did no damage. Somewhat unrealistic but whatever.
I always assumed pirates were able to make decent income ransoming and looting modules. If not, there are no real true pirates correct? If you can not make a living doing it, you are doing it for other reasons and are not truely a pirate by trade. Griefers would be a more accurate term. Am I missing something?
How are they griefers because they don't charge ransom? They aren't trying to inflict grief upon the victim; the victim's grief is largely self induced. The killers just kill to make themselves happy, not to make the killed unhappy. So they aren't griefers. Even if they lead to grief being caused.
Supremacy Keepin it Real
Originally by: Daniel Jackson PLEASE TELL US WHY, WHY DO U WANT US TO DIE, I AM JUST GOING FRIGGEN INSAIGN
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Srewolf Bane
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Posted - 2005.08.12 14:23:00 -
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Originally by: Arimas Talasko
Originally by: Crushing Abyss Bah I was hoping to see the guns come out but everyone has been very civil, helpful even. 
O.K. there is a 2 min. self destruct, that's good to know. I was hoping for something more like 5-10 seconds, even if it took cargo space or a module slot. I like the ramming idea too. I was a little annoyed the first time I collided with an asteroid and it did no damage. Somewhat unrealistic but whatever.
I always assumed pirates were able to make decent income ransoming and looting modules. If not, there are no real true pirates correct? If you can not make a living doing it, you are doing it for other reasons and are not truely a pirate by trade. Griefers would be a more accurate term. Am I missing something?
How are they griefers because they don't charge ransom? They aren't trying to inflict grief upon the victim; the victim's grief is largely self induced. The killers just kill to make themselves happy, not to make the killed unhappy. So they aren't griefers. Even if they lead to grief being caused.
Huh? That made absolutly no sense..  ------------------------------------------------ "I feel sorry for people who don't drink, when they wake up in the morning that's the best they will feel all day" - Frank Sinatra |
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