Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2013.03.06 19:37:00 -
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Bud Austrene wrote:I really do not see how making arena type play would ruin EVE.
I don't believe that the gankers will give up ganking for the sake of a fair fight.
I do not see why it would be anything but a positive addition to the game play.
I believe that it would attract and keep more new players.
I am sure that there would be enough arena players that, not being totally satisfied, and would succumb to the darker side of EVE PVP. You could think of it as a new training ground for your next partner or maybe victim.
To incorporate an arena in EVE would be an additional attraction and add to the appeal of EVE.
There will be more of the harsher side of EVE because more people will be playing EVE.
The more people playing EVE, The more money CCP makes;
The more money CCP makes, The more likely EVE will survive.
Look around you, stagnation is death.
If EVE does not grow, it will die.
Other game makers are continually trying to get you to leave EVE and go play their games.
EVE needs to stay competitive in the Market place or some thing better will come along and steal away the players.
Eve does need to maintain its PVP niche in the Market.
I see that haveing an arena system (properly run) would have benefits for everyone.
More people would be in the game because there is this fun thing (arena) to do but few would do only that.
That would provide customers, victims, bigger and more fleets, resources would become more valuable, more enemies and more friends to help you shoot your enemies.
I mean really, what do you want and how does it contribute to EVE's benefit?
The fundamental problem is, that an arena system similar to other MMOs have is counter to everything EVE is based on. It could work if you made it non-instanced, gave it real ship losses and CCP offered no rewards for doing it. This isn't what people mean when they talk about arenas though.
Besides that it creates problems for the rest of the game. The PvP population the game has will be split. This is an issue because of the fact, that the enjoyment of the world PvP depends heavily on the number of players flying in that world. It will snowball because an arena will suck players away from world PvP, which in turn makes it worse, which leads to more players choosing the casual access arenas. It simply sucks the life out of the actual gameworld. With a themepark this is pretty much irrelevant, but with a sandbox it takes away the whole point of playing in the EVE universe. Now the effect won't be total, but it'll make the world poorer especially in the PvP department.
It also won't be a training ground for world PvP. Primarily because people who don't world PvP now won't be doing it with arenas. Majority of them will either ignore the arena or do arena only for the all same reasons they avoid world PvP now. It also won't attract significantly more players for the simple reason, that more then every other game has arenas already. People who see arenas as must have thing are already playing something else and EVE arenas won't offer anything special compared to the competition.
Your fearmongering about stagnation is hilarious because EVE is one of the few games still growing while most of the games with arenas aren't. I don't therefore see how you can offer it as some kind of a miracle cure, when it didn't save them or get EVE players to go there. You then justify it by syaing it's needed to maintain EVE's PvP niche. You mean maintain that special niche by copying what others have made? Maintain it by trying to be what others are? What other worse games, what other failed games are? I think you're just trying to fling everything that comes to mind at us and hoping something might stick without actually thinking about how incoherent it makes your argument.
As I initially said arena tools might ba an ok addition, but they'd have to be limited to the point it's not really an arena system anymore. It would be more of an tournament making tool for the players, that allowed interfering, caused actual losses and where the players provide the rewards. So nothing like arenas from other games, but a tool made for EVE for the players to create more content in the sandbox. Something to help them manage the things they already do. That would a good addition to the game. Copied, ill-fitting arena systems from other themepark MMOs, not so much.
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