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Gunnar Hlidar
SEA Industries
SEA Empire
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Posted - 2013.03.04 19:24:00 -
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Make cloaking devices use capacitor, this would facilitate changes in cloak use, if one wants to perma cloak, one would need to fit capacitor rechargers to do so = less tank.
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Make cloaking devices for each ship size, similar to afterburners and MWDs, also would make using the new cloaks more balanced compared to having only one size fits all.
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Current specialized cloaking ships would get a bonus similar to the covert ops CPU reduction bonus, so they can perma cloak fairly easily.
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Make a tech 2 destroyer specialized to hunt cloaked ships, the new destroyer hulls come in handy there. The new destroyer would have specialized probes(only it would be able to use them, similar to the warp disruption bubbles of the Interdictor). The probes could only be able to get down 100 km range, 50 km at best(10 km closer pr skill level)
Then a new module would come into use, a new type of sensor, it would work similar to a sonar ping(gives a blip on the tactical overview). Then the destroyer could call in reinforcements, launch a special decloaking "bomb".
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Make a Fleet cloaking ship, said ship would be similar to the Heavy Interdictor, except instead of warp scrambling bubble, it would have a cloaking one. Each ship inside said bubble wouldn't be able to use it's weapons, and once the cloak would be dropped, it would take every ship 10-20 seconds to recalibrate their sensors(ship skill would lower said time, at lvl5 = one recalibration time, skill would be rank12-14, ). The Fleet cloaking ship would be similar to a logistics cruiser, would have pretty much no offensive abilities, but would be a hard nut to crack.
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Mag's
the united
Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2013.03.04 19:25:00 -
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Why? Cloaks are already balanced.
Malcanis for CSM 8.
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It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
TheSkeptic
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.04 19:42:00 -
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Mag's wrote:Why? Cloaks are already balanced.
^^ this...
no change needed
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Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings
Situation: Normal
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Posted - 2013.03.04 19:57:00 -
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Posting in stealth nerf afk cloaking thread #72630349571 |
Shahai Shintaro
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry
Templis Dragonaors
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Posted - 2013.03.04 21:21:00 -
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Maybe it's because I live in FW low sec, but I don't understand all the issues people have with cloaks. While cloaked, you can't do anything but provide Intel so why is it an issue?
My only complaint with cloaks is all FW plex farmers who use Them |
Nikk Narrel
Infinite Improbability Inc
Unclaimed.
1393
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Posted - 2013.03.04 22:16:00 -
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This subject... it seems familiar somehow...
Cloaking being on a ten minute manual cycle timer? (Author: Bree Okanata)
Fine. As long as there is a ten minute timer for being docked in a station. Also, you can't stop moving in the game. Just add in a way so every ten minutes you are randomly warped to the nearest other player. Keeps people from going AFK. |
stalwart general
The Foremost Authority- PSI OMEGA PSI
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Posted - 2013.03.18 04:23:00 -
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Who cares if they go AFK with the ship cloaked? Its not like the pilot can do anything. |
Siobhan MacLeary
BRG Corp
Ocularis Inferno
80
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Posted - 2013.03.18 05:30:00 -
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Mag's wrote:Why? Cloaks are already balanced.
As much as I hate your corp/alliance's way of playing (lost a few ships to your camps, grrragegoeshere), I agree.
Cloaks are already balanced, it is the OP who needs to change by not being a *****. Stop being scared of AFK cloakers you know are there. They are far less dangerous than the ten-man cloaked hunter fleet in every wormhole system.
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Akuyaku
Brave Newbies Inc.
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Posted - 2013.03.18 05:49:00 -
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Have an arty nado on standby -> fear no cloakie. |
Omnathious Deninard
Extrinsic Operations
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Posted - 2013.03.18 06:03:00 -
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I got pissed the other night I took a ship out and cloaked up and waited for something to happen, I eventually fell asleep when I woke up I didn't make crap, my wallet was the same an I had no new kills.
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TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
1100
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Posted - 2013.03.18 07:09:00 -
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If you still want to make "perma-cloaking" possible then the first bunch of changes you suggest serve no purpose other than to weaken the tank/capabilities of cloaked ships by making them sacrifice slots for cap mods. Cloaked ships are already very weak and limited, so this is pointless. If you can't deal with a cloaked ship and think they need nerfing, you're bad at EVE sorry.
As for a ship that can detect/find cloaked ships: No. It breaks wormhole space entirely, and even in nullsec it is entirely unnecessary. If you're a resident of a system, you already have a lot of massive advantages over the single guy with a cloak who enters "your" system - you don't need more. |
Azrael Dinn
The 20th Legion
Mildly Sober
67
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Posted - 2013.03.18 07:19:00 -
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Siobhan MacLeary wrote:Mag's wrote:Why? Cloaks are already balanced. As much as I hate your corp/alliance's way of playing (lost a few ships to your camps, grrragegoeshere), I agree. Cloaks are already balanced, it is the OP who needs to change by not being a *****. Stop being scared of AFK cloakers you know are there. They are far less dangerous than the ten-man cloaked hunter fleet in every wormhole system.
cloaks are unbalanced and need nerfing. Thank you |
Teckos Pech
The Executives
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2013.03.18 07:26:00 -
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OMFG....
These posts should be a bannable offense.
And look the doofus contradicts himself with 1 and 3.
Seriously...pull your head out of your fourth point of contact and stop coming to the forums to whine. |
Teckos Pech
The Executives
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2013.03.18 07:28:00 -
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Omnathious Deninard wrote:I got pissed the other night I took a ship out and cloaked up and waited for something to happen, I eventually fell asleep when I woke up I didn't make crap, my wallet was the same an I had no new kills.
My GOD!!!!!!!!!!!
Please, buff cloaks. This poor man needs it.
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Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
1920
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Posted - 2013.03.18 11:57:00 -
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Any change to cloak needs to accomodate for two important things:
1.) The base use of a cloak. The primary purpose of a cloak is to be safe and hidden. If you have to suddenly go afk, if a hostile enters system, a cloak enables you to be safe.... Any changes to cloaks must not alter that. Next, the primary purpose of the Covert Cloak is to travel safely. Any decloaking mechanic must not be easily used to catch covert ships attempting to navigate a gate. If your "anti-cloak" mechanics preven any of these uses of cloaks, you essentially destroy the purpose of the cloak...
2.) The omnipotent Local Chat.... The only reason people afk-cloaky-camp a system is to undermine the instant and omniscient local chat. If you wish to remove AFK cloakers, then you should address the bias in our intel tools. |
Goti fase
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.18 12:34:00 -
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I actually like the idea of having a destroyer that can hunt cloakers. It would have to be tweaked so as to work nicely.
Maybe a low tank, 20km hic type bubble that has a chance to disrupt the cloak of stealthed ships. Make normal ships easy to detect and specialised cloak ships much more difficult.
It could work... |
Onomerous
Shockwave Innovations
Shockwave Sovereign Industries
42
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Posted - 2013.03.18 13:12:00 -
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CCP could easily fix cloaking if they wanted too... It's just a matter of them putting effort into it.
Oh wait, there's no problem with cloaking. CCP already fixed it!@!!! |
Recoil IV
Not Another One Man Corp
95
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Posted - 2013.03.18 13:22:00 -
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cloacking is fine,in fact is some situation like gatecamps it might turn super bad for the cloacky pilot because of drones abandoned at decloack point,cargo containers,interceptors,super fast lockers. |
stalwart general
The Foremost Authority- PSI OMEGA PSI
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Posted - 2013.03.18 13:41:00 -
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Ok, new suggestion. Another cloak mod that uses cap, but allows any ship with it equipped to warp cloaked . And just to be fair it will have to be loaded with cap charges and use up GJ like an ASB and a CPU % penalty like the MWD. Huh? I'd rather be productive.
Additionally make a T2 version for Covert ops (to be specific, excluding stealth bombers I know some of you won't get that on your own) only that allows them to.
I could understand the use for a cloaky scanner, however it would need to have a long cycle time like 8-12 seconds. Gankers already have the advantage with the warp disruption bubbles. With this I would want a new low slot mod to provide some way stabilize a warp field inside a bubble. A non-targetted interdiction resistance/immunity
mod would be nice.
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TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
1105
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Posted - 2013.03.18 14:49:00 -
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i have yet another fix: a free box of kleenex for every nullbear who can't deal with the horrors of seeing a single neutral in the chat list in the dangerous area of space they chose to live in |
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