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Liquid Omega
Tempestas Oriens Sev3rance
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Posted - 2013.04.05 22:01:00 -
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Endorsing Ali too.! cheerio and see you in providence! |

Alekseyev Karrde
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2013.04.06 23:13:00 -
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Great NPE article Ali. "Alekseyev Karrde: mercenary of my heart."-á -Arydanika, Voices from the Void
Hero of the CSM Noir./Noir. Academy Recruiting: www.noirmercs.com |

None ofthe Above
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Posted - 2013.04.09 22:19:00 -
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You picked up an interesting endorsement here:
http://greedygoblin.blogspot.com/2013/04/voting-for-economy-on-csm-election.html Vote, you apathetic bastards!-á -> http://community.eveonline.com/community/csm/vote/
CSM 8 Endorsements: Ali Aras, Malcanis, Mike Azaria, Psychotic Monk, Trebor Daehdoow, Ripard Teg |

Powers Sa
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Posted - 2013.04.10 00:55:00 -
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How do you feel about highsec freighter kamikazee/suicide ganks? This is a very important issue. Vote Nullsec for CSM8 Mynnna Kesper North-á Kaleb Rysode Malc00nis |

Ali Aras
Valkyries of Night Of Sound Mind
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Posted - 2013.04.10 02:10:00 -
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I'm totally fine with suicide ganks. In an interesting bit of irony, my suicide ganking pod got suicide ganked last night (by you? Same first name on twitter), although not before fulfilling its purpose some time earlier. I could have avoided it by being at keys or, indeed, APing in a ship (which I was-- I found an apparent bug in which said ship got popped by faction navy despite my heroic anti-Sansha efforts in the belts of northern Providence). Content was created, some isk was removed from the game, yadda yadda.
I do understand the frustration of the ganked-- what use is a killright or a wardec against an alt with nothing to lose? Better would be some way to (if you could be bothered to fit a PvP ship and undock) take your revenge. But it's one of those things to which I can't see a game-mechanical solution that doesn't just make everything worse.
I saw that! There's someone shilling his slate in Jita, too. I'm glad my platform is out there.
Alekseyev Karrde wrote:Great NPE article Ali. Hey, thanks for the +1 :) Ali Aras for CSM8 Warp to Sun (my blog) |

Ali Aras
Valkyries of Night Of Sound Mind
246
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Posted - 2013.04.10 23:41:00 -
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I wrote (yet another) thing! This one is a post urging people to vote vote vote. It's a primer on why to vote, what the CSM is (via link), and it has links to several helpful voting slates for the lazy (including Rhavas's "conscience nullsec" ballot) and several helpful resources for the researchers.
I know that if you're reading this, you've likely voted already, but tell your friends, spread the word, etc. The above link is a good one-stop-shop for voting exuberance and convenience. Ali Aras for CSM8 Warp to Sun (my blog) |

Kahawa Oban
CompleXion Industries CompleXion Alliance
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Posted - 2013.04.16 01:49:00 -
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You've got my vote. |

None ofthe Above
510
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Posted - 2013.04.18 18:55:00 -
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Last minute rally for Ali!
Vote, you apathetic bastards!-á -> http://community.eveonline.com/community/csm/vote/ CSM 8 Endorsements: Ali Aras, Malcanis, Mike Azaria, Psychotic Monk, Trebor Daehdoow, Ripard Teg |

Ali Aras
Valkyries of Night Of Sound Mind
250
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Posted - 2013.04.18 21:05:00 -
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Wooo. I've been talking to folks for the last few days, and no doubt annoyed more than one.
Thanks, again, seriously for all the support. I'm hopeful for the outcome, but anything could happen, so I'm trying not to expect much. If nothing else, it's been a fun campaign and I hope it's raised awareness of the ongoing issues with the newbie experience. Ali Aras for CSM8 Warp to Sun (my blog) |

Rhivre
TarNec
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Posted - 2013.04.18 21:18:00 -
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Ali Aras wrote:Wooo. I've been talking to folks for the last few days, and no doubt annoyed more than one.
Thanks, again, seriously for all the support. I'm hopeful for the outcome, but anything could happen, so I'm trying not to expect much. If nothing else, it's been a fun campaign and I hope it's raised awareness of the ongoing issues with the newbie experience.
Best of luck with the results! |

Frying Doom
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Posted - 2013.04.18 22:11:00 -
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Before the polls close
How do you feel about the new STV voting system?
Do you understand it?
How do you feel about fact we can only identify 2 members of CSM7 who supported it?
Do you want it removed for a better or simpler system, while voting numbers are so low? Vote Now! My recommendations are:-á 1.James Arget 2.Ayeson 3.Nathan Jameson 4.Cipreh 5.Chitsa Jason 6. Malcanis 7. Mike Azariah 8. Ripard Teg 9. Mangala Solaris 10. Ali Aras 11. Roc Wieler And remember not voting is the same as voting for Null. |

Ali Aras
Valkyries of Night Of Sound Mind
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Posted - 2013.04.18 23:21:00 -
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STV-- mixed. I don't like the tactical voting which has occurred, I like that it's easier to vote in candidates such as myself (independent, with strong/compelling message, without organized exit polling). I would not do nearly so well in a FPTP system. I don't like the complexity when trying to GOTV.
Yeah, I do understand it, which is why I've been pressing people to vote at all and to vote for me *somewhere* on their ballot, and approached even people who I think are unlikely to put me #1.
I have no idea what voting numbers are. Many have said it's not as dire as it seems to be. I'd like it to be simplified or improved upon. My biggest problem was the pre-qualification round, which dragged the campaign/GOTV spam out further. I had to mobilize twice, which sucked.
Less terse answers when I'm not between work things (but that'll be after polls close). Ali Aras for CSM8 Warp to Sun (my blog) |

Frying Doom
2387
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Posted - 2013.04.18 23:24:00 -
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Thank you for your time Vote Now! My recommendations are:-á 1.James Arget 2.Ayeson 3.Nathan Jameson 4.Cipreh 5.Chitsa Jason 6. Malcanis 7. Mike Azariah 8. Ripard Teg 9. Mangala Solaris 10. Ali Aras 11. Roc Wieler And remember not voting is the same as voting for Null. |

None ofthe Above
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Posted - 2013.04.27 20:04:00 -
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None ofthe Above wrote:Last minute rally for Ali!
Seems to have worked.
Happy to have contributed the "None ofthe Above bump" (patent pending)
Congratulations, CSM Ali Aras I hope you voted, you glorious but often apathetic bastards! CSM 8 Endorsements: Ali Aras, Malcanis, Mike Azaria, Psychotic Monk, Trebor Daehdoow, Ripard Teg |

Frying Doom
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Posted - 2013.04.27 23:01:00 -
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Congratulations. Any spelling and grammatical errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |

XavierVE
Reasonable People Of Sound Mind
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Posted - 2013.04.28 00:10:00 -
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Congratulations on a extremely well run campaign, great job. One of the few candidates in EVE history to come from a sub-300 man alliance.
Now argue ferociously for further limits to power projection, activity-based sov infrastructure and some of your excellent ideas to get newbies off solo-missioning and into finding the social circle that keeps people in EVE. |

Alekseyev Karrde
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2013.04.28 00:27:00 -
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Well done Ali.
You and Ripard can prepare your bodies together for the relentless trolling about communication ;p
Looking forward to working with you during the transition, o7 "Alekseyev Karrde: mercenary of my heart."-á -Arydanika, Voices from the Void
Hero of the CSM Noir./Noir. Academy Recruiting: www.noirmercs.com |

None ofthe Above
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Posted - 2013.04.28 01:28:00 -
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Alekseyev Karrde wrote:Well done Ali.
You and Ripard can prepare your bodies together for the relentless trolling about communication ;p
Looking forward to working with you during the transition, o7
I've got my poking stick all at the ready. I hope you voted, you glorious but often apathetic bastards! STV working as intended; Pre-elections and Get out the Vote, room for improvement. |

Dersen Lowery
Laurentson INC StructureDamage
486
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Posted - 2013.04.29 05:38:00 -
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Congrats, Ali! You'll be an invaluable contributor to what looks like a great CSM. Proud founder and member of the Belligerent Desirables. |

Speedkermit Damo
Callide Vulpis Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2013.04.29 14:15:00 -
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Congratulations Ali  Don't Panic.
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Rebecha Pucontis
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.11 06:57:00 -
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Hmm, I don't know how someone with such little experience can be elected to represent the eve community. I'm guessing backed up by CVA block votes. No offense, but your employment history has barely begun, and yet your on the CSM. Also listening to your interview you confessed to rage quitting the game after being can flipped, and now you want to come back and make high sec more friendly for new players.......... |

Dersen Lowery
Laurentson INC StructureDamage
488
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Posted - 2013.05.11 23:07:00 -
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1) Apparently 61% of her votes came from outside Providence;
2) She wants to make the game friendlier for new players. If you actually looked at her corp history, you'd notice that her success this time had nothing to do with high sec--but high sec is, invariably, where you start and where the tutorial agents are;
3) She is the foremost expert on the CSM on the subjects of new player experience and retention, two subjects of great interest to CCP.
Those together are how she earned three of my votes, despite the fact that I've never seen Providence. Proud founder and member of the Belligerent Desirables. |

Rebecha Pucontis
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
313
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Posted - 2013.05.12 05:37:00 -
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I picked it up because I noticed one of her forum posts displayed an evident lack of knowledge regarding game mechanics, so I delved a little deeper and was surprised that such a young player has been elected to the CSM and was trying to work out why this happened. Do you not think it is a little dangerous electing ones with such little experience into positions that could possibly influence the games direction?
She seems enthusiastic, and I guess it is good to have people from all walks of Eve. But was just surprised to be honest how she managed to get the votes with such little experience. I guess one relatively inexperienced player on the CSM wont cause any harm though. |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2013.05.12 08:10:00 -
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Rebecha Pucontis wrote:I picked it up because I noticed one of her forum posts displayed an evident lack of knowledge regarding game mechanics, so I delved a little deeper and was surprised that such a young player has been elected to the CSM and was trying to work out why this happened. Do you not think it is a little dangerous electing ones with such little experience into positions that could possibly influence the games direction?
She seems enthusiastic, and I guess it is good to have people from all walks of Eve. But was just surprised to be honest how she managed to get the votes with such little experience. I guess one relatively inexperienced player on the CSM wont cause any harm though.
We already have plenty of people willing to talk aout ship balancing and sov mechanics. We also need someone who can say "guys I understand why you think $_AMENDMENT to this mod/mechanic/whatever is necessary, but it's going to need to be carefully explained and maybe something put into the item description to make sense to people who haven't played EVE for 6 years".
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dark heartt
I Own Four Sheep Nyratic
243
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Posted - 2013.05.12 09:27:00 -
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Rebecha Pucontis wrote:I picked it up because I noticed one of her forum posts displayed an evident lack of knowledge regarding game mechanics, so I delved a little deeper and was surprised that such a young player has been elected to the CSM and was trying to work out why this happened. Do you not think it is a little dangerous electing ones with such little experience into positions that could possibly influence the games direction?
She seems enthusiastic, and I guess it is good to have people from all walks of Eve. But was just surprised to be honest how she managed to get the votes with such little experience. I guess one relatively inexperienced player on the CSM wont cause any harm though.
Two words: NEW PLAYERS. Eve needs them, and Ali is not only new, but she quit and came back. That's a pretty valuable insight to have for the CSM. Not everyone has been playing the game for 3+ years and knows nearly everything. Eve is a game with a learning curve like a cliff (as the famous comic showed), and having someone who is closer to that point of the game, without being a total newbie is a really really valuable thing for the CSM and CCP.
And as you say it won't cause any harm to have one relatively inexperienced player, especially when she will have 13 other members to help her to understand the more intricate details of something like sov warfare or faction warfare. That's the whole point of having 14 members, so that you can have a wide range of experience and specialties from each member. Ali will bring a new players perspective to the table. Bienator II: "You can identify eve players by looking at their cars. Since they don't drive what they can't afford to lose." I play in highsec. |

Dersen Lowery
Laurentson INC StructureDamage
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Posted - 2013.05.13 15:32:00 -
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Or, tl;dr: In a game where new player retention is a major issue, lack of experience is a valuable form of experience.
Not every CSM has to be good at everything. Ali demonstrated the initiative, the ability to engage, and the willpower to get on CSM and serve well, so she has the most important part covered. Proud founder and member of the Belligerent Desirables. |

Rebecha Pucontis
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
332
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Posted - 2013.05.15 17:19:00 -
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Dersen Lowery wrote:Or, tl;dr: In a game where new player retention is a major issue, lack of experience is a valuable form of experience.
Not every CSM has to be good at everything. Ali demonstrated the initiative, the ability to engage, and the willpower to get on CSM and serve well, so she has the most important part covered. That is true. I can understand why people voted for Ali now even though she wouldn't have been my personal choice. In my opinion the best way to retain new players is not necessarily to make the game easier for them, but to offer them exciting and engaging gameplay mechanics. |

Dersen Lowery
Laurentson INC StructureDamage
496
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Posted - 2013.05.15 18:12:00 -
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Rebecha Pucontis wrote:Dersen Lowery wrote:Or, tl;dr: In a game where new player retention is a major issue, lack of experience is a valuable form of experience.
Not every CSM has to be good at everything. Ali demonstrated the initiative, the ability to engage, and the willpower to get on CSM and serve well, so she has the most important part covered. That is true. I can understand why people voted for Ali now even though she wouldn't have been my personal choice. In my opinion the best way to retain new players is not necessarily to make the game easier for them, but to offer them exciting and engaging gameplay mechanics.
That's the other thing: As far as I can discern, exciting and engaging gameplay--not just mechanics, but people--are what got her to stick around. After all, she's in null sec FCing fleets, right? So we're not talking about hand-holding and pandas, or even high sec necessarily.
Sometimes it's the little things. The current introductory video gives you an EVE-seasoned version of the general pitch that you are a special snowflake (and so are other players!). The new video shows a capsuleer get into a newbie-accessible ship, go into a fight, get blown up, and wake up again in a clone vat. That's much more useful information for a new player, wouldn't you say? And it doesn't involve changing a single mechanic in EVE.
(We'll just have to tell a lot of Amarr and Gallente newbies that no, the shield alarm doesn't mean that your armor tanked ship is about to blow up. Presumably, CCP didn't want to traumatize new players with the hull screech.)
Proud founder and member of the Belligerent Desirables. |

June Ting
Valkyries of Night Of Sound Mind
37
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Posted - 2013.05.15 18:16:00 -
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Rebecha Pucontis wrote:Dersen Lowery wrote:Or, tl;dr: In a game where new player retention is a major issue, lack of experience is a valuable form of experience.
Not every CSM has to be good at everything. Ali demonstrated the initiative, the ability to engage, and the willpower to get on CSM and serve well, so she has the most important part covered. That is true. I can understand why people voted for Ali now even though she wouldn't have been my personal choice. In my opinion the best way to retain new players is not necessarily to make the game easier for them, but to offer them exciting and engaging gameplay mechanics. I think you have misread her platform or are mischaracterizing it. You did read http://themittani.com/features/creation-carebears-risk-and-new-players right?
I don't think Ali has talked whatsoever about dumbing down the game or offering them faction fit ponies; in fact, she's said the opposite. The problem is that newbies aren't shown that there is complexity and interesting stuff, nor are they taught survival skills, and that they therefore never see the fun side of the game before they quit.
Also, if you think she's wrong about something, maybe instead of insinuating that she doesn't know what she's doing vaguely without specifics, you should challenge her and tell her what you think she has wrong and why. She's one of the smartest people I fly with, and isn't afraid of admitting she was wrong after being persuaded by a compelling argument. Proud independent player and member of Provibloc. |

Ali Aras
Valkyries of Night Of Sound Mind
267
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Posted - 2013.05.15 18:29:00 -
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Oh, hey, the forum stopped giving me notifications for this thread.
Dersen Lowry wrote:That's the other thing: As far as I can discern, exciting and engaging gameplay--not just mechanics, but people--are what got her to stick around. After all, she's in null sec FCing fleets, right? So we're not talking about hand-holding and pandas, or even high sec necessarily. Yeah, this is pretty much accurate. I do think high sec is important to consider in talking about this, because people do start out there and they will keep playing there, but that doesn't mean the place has to be a boring kiddie park with all the edges sanded off. If it is, that does a huge disservice to the game and a disservice to the people who are looking to get into it.
Rebecha Pucontis wrote: That is true. I can understand why people voted for Ali now even though she wouldn't have been my personal choice. In my opinion the best way to retain new players is not necessarily to make the game easier for them, but to offer them exciting and engaging gameplay mechanics.
I'm actually agreed with you. I don't want to make the game any easier; the complexity makes it fun. If anything, I want to make certain parts harder. I want to make it easier to learn, which is not quite the same thing. If you improve the way math is taught, it doesn't change math at all, just how quickly you can start to understand it. You're also more likely to see people enjoying math who wouldn't otherwise-- it's the same idea for video games.
Regarding the above conversation about my inexperience-- yeah, I know fewer things than some of my colleagues. So what. Like Malcanis said, that's not always where I can best contribute (I've already had two "but this is inaccessible for reasons X, Y, and Z" conversations), and we have a lot of very smart and capable CSM members who're on top of the nitty-gritty of parts of the game mechanics. It's also not like I'm just languishing in ignorance and wide-eyed wonder; I ask a lot of questions (after a quick google search) without regard to how dumb they are.
Rebecha Pucontis wrote:I picked it up because I noticed one of her forum posts displayed an evident lack of knowledge regarding game mechanics Which one? You can't just say that and not call out the individual post so I can learn and/or defend my honor ;-) If it was the POS stuff on Monk's CSM thread, yeah, I learned from that. If it's anything I've posted in the last two weeks...I haven't said anything I'm not 100% confident on and directly familiar with, so I'd love to argue the point. http://warp-to-sun.tumblr.com -- my blog |
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