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Zarnak Wulf
In Exile.
Imperial Outlaws.
1057
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Posted - 2013.03.08 14:34:00 -
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Do you want to try the new and updated Battlecruisers only to find yourself using them in IHub bashes? Are you saddened by lack of BC brawls that used to be the norm? Please let CCP know here.... |
Deacon Abox
Justified Chaos
72
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Posted - 2013.03.08 14:44:00 -
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True. These things hardly ever spawn. Hey CCP, what's up with that?
And yes, many fw pilots bemoan the lack of opportunities to fly larger junk. I'm ok with flying smaller cheaper **** all the time. But some guys want to fly BCs and BSs. So CCP adjust a dial somewhere and get these things in more systems. |
CaptainTr1cky
EVE-RO
Fidelas Constans
4
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Posted - 2013.03.08 14:50:00 -
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+1 for more large plexes |
Machiavelli's Nemesis
Angry Mustellid
Iron Oxide.
156
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Posted - 2013.03.08 15:06:00 -
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In principle, yes.
In reality, i'm still sulking that they did bad things to my beloved hurricane and i'm going to have to train t2 HAMs before i can have any fun with a cyclone again.
*grumbles* |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
1108
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Posted - 2013.03.08 15:15:00 -
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+1. Variety is good. |
subtle turtle
In Exile.
Imperial Outlaws.
115
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Posted - 2013.03.08 16:55:00 -
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Yes please. All my BCs and BSes are gathering dust, and the parking tickets are piling up on their windscreens.
Or perhaps a new BC sized plex in addition to larges? |
Ohishi
Apocalypse Reign
53
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Posted - 2013.03.08 17:05:00 -
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I would like to see more large plexes as well. I think the NPCs inside would need a slight buff though if large did spawn more often.
Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise. Seek what they sought. |
Vyktor Abyss
The Abyss Corporation
266
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Posted - 2013.03.08 18:40:00 -
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A plex that only allows BC and up.... Now that would be something! |
Taoist Dragon
Bastion of Mad Behaviour
289
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Posted - 2013.03.08 19:55:00 -
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Make large plex BC down with a gate
BS+ can stil be used for Ihub and pos fights.
That is the Way, the Tao.
Balance is everything. |
Alticus C Bear
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
136
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Posted - 2013.03.08 20:44:00 -
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These things are like buses, had not seen any in ages then found three in one system, course I was in a T1 frig at the time so the BC sits dusty several jumps away.
Shame they did not adjust this with the BC re-balance it is the perfect place for them.
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Almity
In Exile.
Imperial Outlaws.
53
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Posted - 2013.03.08 20:45:00 -
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Moar large plexes please! Cruiser fights are ok but they are starting to get way too cookie cutter. |
chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Samurai Pizza Cats
396
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Posted - 2013.03.08 21:10:00 -
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Almity wrote:Moar large plexes please! Cruiser fights are ok but they are starting to get way too cookie cutter.
Instead of unrestricted plexes:
Novice - as is
Small - as is
Medium - Only t1 cruisers and below
Large - t2 cruisers and BC's and below
Unrestricted - anything, no gate
And have the large's spawn with the same cycle as the novice/small/mediums. Possibly reduce VP to keep system capture time the same. |
Garr Earthbender
Justified Chaos
146
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Posted - 2013.03.08 23:11:00 -
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/me sadface that my battlecruisers are languishing because there's no reason to fly a BC in FW.
I would give every system a Large plex, but make the spawn time 1-2 hours.
-Rock is overpowered, Scissors is fine. -Paper |
Taoist Dragon
Bastion of Mad Behaviour
289
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Posted - 2013.03.08 23:17:00 -
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Every system has a Novice, small and medium compound that respawns 30 mins after it despawns right?
So why don't they just make a Large compound (BC and down) in each system that respawns 1 hours after despawn and have the current large plex renamed to unrestricted as opperate as normal.
That is the Way, the Tao.
Balance is everything. |
Iggys
Justified Chaos
3
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Posted - 2013.03.09 02:20:00 -
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Vyktor Abyss wrote:A plex that only allows BC and up.... Now that would be something!
I would prefer to see cruiser and up, let's get some logi in the mix. |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
1578
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Posted - 2013.03.09 03:09:00 -
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+1 would really like to undock my BC again
a eve-style bounty system (done)-á
dust boarding parties
You fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |
Ronin Chance
Black Watch Guard
Amarr 7th Fleet
1
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Posted - 2013.03.09 06:48:00 -
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+1 I miss flying my BCs  |
Christine Peeveepeeski
The Imperial Fedaykin
Amarrian Commandos
248
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Posted - 2013.03.09 13:43:00 -
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+1 my bc's need exercise . They are getting flabby :-( |
Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
Amarrian Commandos
798
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Posted - 2013.03.09 13:57:00 -
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yeah i like the ideas above for gate-ing larges for bc and below and adding a new BS open plex.
The larges spawning faster (perhaps around medium sizes) and unrestricted, aka BS+ plex, spawning like larges currently do.
the BCs are left out in the cold atm and BS are extremely rare beyond ihub bash.
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Getsafe Aisak
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.03.09 15:54:00 -
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I agree. My personal army of unfit/stabbed frigate alts needs more of the better paying plexes to farm. |
Yogsoloth
Percussive Diplomacy
Samurai Pizza Cats
106
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Posted - 2013.03.09 17:19:00 -
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This would be easy to implement and is clearly favored by the majority of FW pilots.
Make it happen !
While we're at it, FW beacons should have an anti-cloaking effect. |
Typo Interobang
Fweddit
I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
17
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Posted - 2013.03.10 20:15:00 -
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A few more Large Complexes would be welcome. I am starting to have too much ISK and need to lose a few BCs. |
Xolve
Fweddit
I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
1330
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Posted - 2013.03.10 20:52:00 -
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Getsafe Aisak wrote:I agree. My personal army of unfit/stabbed frigate alts needs more of the better paying plexes to farm.
Even though your comment is primarily poorly placed sarcasm, the effective date on the relevancy of said comment expired about four months ago.
Inappropriate signature removed. Navigator. |
Getsafe Aisak
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.03.10 21:52:00 -
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Xolve wrote:Getsafe Aisak wrote:I agree. My personal army of unfit/stabbed frigate alts needs more of the better paying plexes to farm. Even though your comment is primarily poorly placed sarcasm, the effective date on the relevancy of said comment expired about four months ago.
Then what are all the said unfit/stabbed frigates doing in the plexes throughout all the FW space? I can assure you that my observations are current. |
Garr Earthbender
Justified Chaos
148
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Posted - 2013.03.10 22:02:00 -
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They're mostly defensive plexing. Not really an LP maker, but helps with warzone control.
-Rock is overpowered, Scissors is fine. -Paper |
Zarnak Wulf
In Exile.
Imperial Outlaws.
1074
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Posted - 2013.03.10 23:00:00 -
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Most farmers I see are in minors and smalls. They are done in less time - less chance to be chased out. They are also easier to run in stabbed ships with the DPS of a wet noodle.
If more plexes of the large variety were added and a reshuffle was done with either VP or respawn timers- the effect of said farmers might be diluted a bit. |
Trinkets friend
Minmatar-Amarr Man-Boy Love Association
976
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Posted - 2013.03.10 23:54:00 -
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+1, we all need more opportunities to lose larger ships to nanofag damp Condors, Adolf and ISBOXing pros who'll take 6 x 1.5M ISK Catalysts in against your 100M ISK Cyclone and vape it with 2400 DPS before you can even cycle your XLASB.
Come on, people. You won't be using your BC's much more than you do now. People will just figure out "ohmygoshzor I can farm the larges with a cloaky osprey instead of a Bantam". Then they'll figure out, Prophecy = big active armour bait, everything else is just fodder for Cynabals and/or Condors, and you'll go back to welping frigs and dessies after 2 weeks.
Taking submissions for "Trinkets friendly Advice Column" via evemail or private convo in-game. Anonymity sorta guaranteed.
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Zarnak Wulf
In Exile.
Imperial Outlaws.
1075
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Posted - 2013.03.11 00:42:00 -
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I used to kill condors all the time in a Naga. But that is besides the point. With large plexes there would be large brawls possible. Which is what we want. |
Garr Earthbender
Justified Chaos
148
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Posted - 2013.03.11 00:44:00 -
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Make sure to like the original post if you agree with this!!!! Let the devs know how we feel!
-Rock is overpowered, Scissors is fine. -Paper |
SkiD-MaRk
Moira.
Villore Accords
18
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Posted - 2013.03.11 04:11:00 -
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Coming back to Eve with a new char. about 3 months total training time on her. I love the small scale frig fights FW offers compared to living with my old char in 0.0 for so many years. But I can certainly see the limits FW can have with so few large plexs and the lack of true slug fests that could happen in them.
But at this point I am really enjoying relearning the game through FW, with or without large plex's, so my opinion is more neutral, then most that have been fighting the good fight much longer then I have.
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Xolve
Fweddit
I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
1331
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Posted - 2013.03.11 21:59:00 -
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Trinkets friend wrote:+1, we all need more opportunities to lose larger ships to nanofag damp Condors, Adolf and ISBOXing pros who'll take 6 x 1.5M ISK Catalysts in against your 100M ISK Cyclone and vape it with 2400 DPS before you can even cycle your XLASB.
Come on, people. You won't be using your BC's much more than you do now. People will just figure out "ohmygoshzor I can farm the larges with a cloaky osprey instead of a Bantam". Then they'll figure out, Prophecy = big active armour bait, everything else is just fodder for Cynabals and/or Condors, and you'll go back to welping frigs and dessies after 2 weeks.
But I really, really want to 18 box talos in plexes designed for battle cruisers.
Inappropriate signature removed. Navigator. |
IbanezLaney
the church of awesome
Caldari State Capturing
259
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Posted - 2013.03.12 08:20:00 -
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Would also like to see more large plexes.
I wouldn't want them restricted from smaller ships entering as long as the rat is buffed by a fair bit.
If only a BC and up can solo the rat - that would encourage more BC's and maybe even BS's being flown in FW.
Fix this **** See Sea Pea. |
Caleb Seremshur
Dark Circle Enforcement
Templis Dragonaors
5
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Posted - 2013.03.12 11:06:00 -
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IbanezLaney wrote:Would also like to see more large plexes.
I wouldn't want them restricted from smaller ships entering as long as the rat is buffed by a fair bit.
If only a BC and up can solo the rat - that would encourage more BC's and maybe even BS's being flown in FW.
I think restricting smaller ships from entering would be a great idea.
Pros:
Increasing investment from people plexing
Creating demand for fleets
Less escape artists ergo more kills
Better for game economy as ships that die mean ISK sink.
Cons:
Restrictive to newer players (do month old alts even belong in FW larges?)
Gank bait
Conceivably hard to balance
Dread drops becoming an issue (outright banned IMO, save the dreads for IHUBs please)
That's just off the top of my head. The question in my head is *if* you introduce a minimum ship size for larges what size do you choose? Cruisers? T2 cruisers?
How do you justify the payout of such delicious things? Do larges retain their current pay-out rate or face diminishing returns over a given fleet size (ie not an equal split between all parties but a given amount decreasing on a metric as the number of ships increases)
That's just my 2c anyway. |
Cearain
Black Dragon Fighting Society
The Devil's Tattoo
845
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Posted - 2013.03.12 13:58:00 -
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Getsafe Aisak wrote:I agree. My personal army of unfit/stabbed frigate alts needs more of the better paying plexes to farm.
While this is a problem now I don't think adding large plexes will make this worse, or better. I think it will just add some variety.
I think ccp said there was no real reason to have the number of large plexes so limited other than some throwback issue with the code. But even if they don't spawn quite as often as the smaller plexes we probably should get more of these.
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Skarp Severasse
Mixed Metaphor
1
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Posted - 2013.03.15 11:30:00 -
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I don't even own a battlecruiser and I badly want more large complexes. Factional warfare space would be much more dynamic. But please keep the loyalty point rewards between complex sizes comparable so that flying smaller ones stay just as viable. |
Andracin
Sickology
71
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Posted - 2013.03.26 09:23:00 -
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I approve this post and I don't faction warfare...but I sure love hunting the people who do! |
Commissar Veldt
Progressive State
State Section 9
34
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Posted - 2013.03.26 11:23:00 -
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+1 indeed.
More large plexes please CCP! |
GavinGoodrich
void.
B O R G
19
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Posted - 2013.03.26 11:45:00 -
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+1 |
Flyinghotpocket
Amarrian Vengeance
24eme Legion Etrangere
98
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Posted - 2013.04.01 22:58:00 -
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bring back major plexs!
if you do bring back a bc plex this time, this time don't be asleep at the wheel when you allow t3 cruisers and no t2 command ships. or don't allow both |
Deen Wispa
Justified Chaos
483
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Posted - 2013.04.01 23:17:00 -
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Not much of a reason to play FW anymore unless BCs are introduced. Would be nice but not gonna hold my breath considering how slow CCP is with this
High Five. Yeah!
C'est La Eve . |
ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis
Sicarius Draconis
159
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Posted - 2013.04.01 23:23:00 -
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+1 here need more large
also the shortage of these plexes combined with the cruiser buff was the problem
GÖÑ HIGH FIVES GÖÑ-á |
Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
1232
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Posted - 2013.04.01 23:52:00 -
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FARMERS, RALLY!!!! HOT DROP YOUR NEUTRAL BS THUGS, AND WIN LOOTZ!!
"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac |
Inora Aknaria
Rifters
24
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Posted - 2013.04.02 02:48:00 -
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Large plexes are the worst for getting (solo) pvp. With no gate you just just get blobbed. Perhaps it is still good for BS gangs, but don't you want to be able to deagress and jump if someone jumps in caps? |
Deen Wispa
Justified Chaos
483
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Posted - 2013.04.02 03:22:00 -
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Inora Aknaria wrote:Large plexes are the worst for getting (solo) pvp. With no gate you just just get blobbed. Perhaps it is still good for BS gangs, but don't you want to be able to deagress and jump if someone jumps in caps?
Why does everyone feel the need to use the cap trumpcard for these discussions? Cap escalation is a part of the game. Just get used to it. If you know what you're doing, you can avoid getting dropped on
High Five. Yeah!
C'est La Eve . |
Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
Amarrian Commandos
816
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Posted - 2013.04.02 11:59:00 -
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BCs cry
Make larges gated for bc and down and add new unrestricted.
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Gritz1
Ice Fire Warriors
Late Night Alliance
164
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Posted - 2013.04.02 18:33:00 -
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+1 we need more large plexes for battlecruisers.
Also, we could use no more plexes ever because I am sick of them. |
Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
Amarrian Commandos
819
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Posted - 2013.04.03 08:24:00 -
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Since theres barely ever more than two a day in any given system.
Why not make the unrestricted (no gate large plexes) more of a team plex, two hard core NPC BS rats and a fat LP reward?
plus new 'larges' for BCs as above.
Its a bit .... crappy everything but the bunker in FW is solo-able
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