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Kira Abarai
Nostromo Ishimura Coalation
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Posted - 2013.03.09 01:20:00 -
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This is the Eve mail a corp mate of mine received from CCP after buying PLEX from a 3rd party site. I'M IN NO WAY CONDONING HIS ACTIONS.
FW: Buying in-game items/ISK for real money
From: Ryan xxxxxxxx
Sent: 2013.03.08 01:34
Buying in-game items/ISK for real money
From: GM Capella
Sent: 2013.03.08 00:50
To: Ryan xxxxxxxx,
According to our logs, you have received in-game assets (ISK or other items) from characters which have been verified as having been involved in selling these assets for real money. We can only conclude that you have bought these assets for real money and we are therefore issuing a formal warning in accordance with our policies since this is a breach of the EULA section 6.B. We have also removed the ISK or assets or estimated ISK value of the assets or profit you gained by selling the assets from your character.
As we have mentioned, buying in-game items from illicit sources such as ISK selling/Real Money Trading websites or auction sites is a serious EULA violation and is damaging to our game world. The ISK or assets you obtained will have been acquired by hacking into other playerGÇÖs accounts, by buying PLEX with stolen credit cards or by using modified clients and macros. We hope that you understand, in light of these facts, why we must take action against such activities.
If you need to supplement your wallet balance by buying more ISK, then you have the option to buy PLEX from the EVE Online website and then sell them on the market, as this is the only way that you may buy ISK legitimately. Please note that only CCP sells PLEXs legally and no one else. We also sincerely hope that this will be the only time that we will have to issue a warning of this nature and should point out that any other similar incidents in the future will lead to further action being taken against your account, up to and including a permanent ban.
We should point out that if you wish to contest this warning then you may file a petition either in-game or from the EVE Online website. Please do not reply to this mail as it will not receive a response from Customer Support. These sort of issues can only be dealt with through the ingame petition system.
Regards,
EVE Online Customer Support
Then his Hulk was killed by a High sec Gank corp (xX-Crusader-Xx) the toon was Dante Lobos. After doing some research I found that they were connected to (Citizen Vigilante) which is the head of Hegemonous Pandorum Alliance. Citizen had this posted in his Bio
Stationmonkey
www.shatteredcrystal.com/index.php/~175618
Because everyone wants plex!!
Want to talk to us? You can do that here.
hp.myevehost.com/index.php
After I saw that he was clearly representing a 3rd party time code selling site. I contacted a GM to report him. I in turn received this email.
Hi,
Thank you for reporting this to us; we have investigated the bio and the website is actually an authorised EVE Time Code reseller which are actually officially sanctioned by CCP. A full list of the websites that are allowed to do this can be found here:
https://secure.eveonline.com/etc.aspx
We're always grateful to players for taking the trouble to report RMT to us and if you should see other websites mentioned that may be related to ISK selling in the future, then please feel free to get in touch. Thanks once again!
This petition will now be closed to free up the slot for you and please feel free to contact us again if you need further assistance.
Best regards,
Senior GM Mehendri
EVE Online Customer Support
2013.03.08 22:18:00 Kira Abarai
In paragraph three Its states " Please note that only CCP sells PLEXs legally and no one else'. So how is it that my corp mate gets punished for buying Plex from a 3rd party site and A alliance that is Ganking High-sec miners can openly represent a 3rd party site? GM Mehendri and GM Capella have made opposite statements. |
Slymah
33 RD
Rebel Alliance of New Eden
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Posted - 2013.03.09 01:24:00 -
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Potato |
Orlacc
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Posted - 2013.03.09 01:29:00 -
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Because he, like you, is not very astute.
Shattered Crystal has been around for many years and has been an authorized timecode seller for years. |
Arronicus
Vintas Industries
Mistakes Were Made.
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Posted - 2013.03.09 01:33:00 -
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Sharing CCP correspondence as per petitions, especially regarding bans and punitive actions, is against the rules afaik. I'd edit/take down the part that CCP said asap, though I'm sure a mod will snip it soon enough. |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe
YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2013.03.09 01:35:00 -
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Kira Abarai wrote:This is the Eve mail a corp mate of mine received from CCP after buying PLEX from a 3rd party site. I'M IN NO WAY CONDONING HIS ACTIONS.
Shattered Crystal buys GTCs from CCP and resells them as an authorized retailer. A GTC is created, and CCP receives money from the sale.
RMT sites buy PLEX on the in game market, and resell them for real money, against the terms of the EULA. No PLEX is created, and CCP does not receive money from the sale. It's just like RMT buying and selling liquid ISK directly.
Arronicus wrote:Sharing CCP correspondence as per petitions, especially regarding bans and punitive actions, is against the rules afaik. I'd edit/take down the part that CCP said asap, though I'm sure a mod will snip it soon enough.
The thread's gonna be locked soon anyway, so 
This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
NeoShocker
Interstellar eXodus
BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2013.03.09 01:35:00 -
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Hrm, weird. Well, you need to request escalation through petition for higher level of support. |
Rahdzilla
Nostromo Ishimura Coalation
Mighty.
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Posted - 2013.03.09 01:41:00 -
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The point Kira was making is that a GM stated that ANY selling that is not from CCP breaks the rules. Then another GM is stating that certain sites are allowed to. He knows that some are allowed to and give a kick back to CCP. Point is two GM's are conflicting in their answer. If that is the case then how can rules be inforced if CCP employee's don't know their own policy.  |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe
YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2013.03.09 01:44:00 -
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Rahdzilla wrote:The point Kira was making is that a GM stated that ANY selling that is not from CCP breaks the rules. Then another GM is stating that certain sites are allowed to. He knows that some are allowed to and give a kick back to CCP. Point is two GM's are conflicting in their answer. If that is the case then how can rules be inforced if CCP employee's don't know their own policy.
Read it again. The first GM said that buying PLEX from anywhere other than CCP is against the rules. Shattered Crystal sells GTCs, which are not PLEX.
This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2013.03.09 01:46:00 -
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Rahdzilla wrote:The point Kira was making is that a GM stated that ANY selling that is not from CCP breaks the rules. Then another GM is stating that certain sites are allowed to. He knows that some are allowed to and give a kick back to CCP. Point is two GM's are conflicting in their answer. If that is the case then how can rules be inforced if CCP employee's don't know their own policy.
No.
One GM says that only CCP legally sells PLEX.
Another GM says that Shattered Crystal is a legal retailer of ETCs.
ETCs are not PLEX.
Vote Malcanis for CSM8. |
Kira Abarai
Nostromo Ishimura Coalation
Mighty.
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Posted - 2013.03.09 01:47:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Rahdzilla wrote:The point Kira was making is that a GM stated that ANY selling that is not from CCP breaks the rules. Then another GM is stating that certain sites are allowed to. He knows that some are allowed to and give a kick back to CCP. Point is two GM's are conflicting in their answer. If that is the case then how can rules be inforced if CCP employee's don't know their own policy. Read it again. The first GM said that buying PLEX from anywhere other than CCP is against the rules. Shattered Crystal sells GTCs, which are not PLEX.
That is just a loop hole. A GTC can be turned into PLEX soooo. What is your point? |
Nariya Kentaya
Always Negative.
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Posted - 2013.03.09 01:50:00 -
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Kira Abarai wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Rahdzilla wrote:The point Kira was making is that a GM stated that ANY selling that is not from CCP breaks the rules. Then another GM is stating that certain sites are allowed to. He knows that some are allowed to and give a kick back to CCP. Point is two GM's are conflicting in their answer. If that is the case then how can rules be inforced if CCP employee's don't know their own policy. Read it again. The first GM said that buying PLEX from anywhere other than CCP is against the rules. Shattered Crystal sells GTCs, which are not PLEX. That is just a loop hole. A GTC can be turned into PLEX soooo. What is your point?
But a PLEX cannot become a GTC, leaving plex solely in the domain of CCP control. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2013.03.09 01:51:00 -
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Kira Abarai wrote:
That is just a loop hole. A GTC can be turned into PLEX soooo. What is your point?
The point is that it's not a loop hole GÇö they're two completely different things.
Only CCP can hand you PLEXes, but authorised retailers are allowed to sell you ETCs, which you can then present to CCP as proof of purchase for a couple of services.
Vote Malcanis for CSM8. |
Kira Abarai
Nostromo Ishimura Coalation
Mighty.
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Posted - 2013.03.09 01:52:00 -
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Nariya Kentaya wrote:Kira Abarai wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Rahdzilla wrote:The point Kira was making is that a GM stated that ANY selling that is not from CCP breaks the rules. Then another GM is stating that certain sites are allowed to. He knows that some are allowed to and give a kick back to CCP. Point is two GM's are conflicting in their answer. If that is the case then how can rules be inforced if CCP employee's don't know their own policy. Read it again. The first GM said that buying PLEX from anywhere other than CCP is against the rules. Shattered Crystal sells GTCs, which are not PLEX. That is just a loop hole. A GTC can be turned into PLEX soooo. What is your point? But a PLEX cannot become a GTC, leaving plex solely in the domain of CCP control.
So your saying the $ has to stay in the game? |
Rahdzilla
Nostromo Ishimura Coalation
Mighty.
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Posted - 2013.03.09 02:07:00 -
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Kira Abarai wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Rahdzilla wrote:The point Kira was making is that a GM stated that ANY selling that is not from CCP breaks the rules. Then another GM is stating that certain sites are allowed to. He knows that some are allowed to and give a kick back to CCP. Point is two GM's are conflicting in their answer. If that is the case then how can rules be inforced if CCP employee's don't know their own policy. Read it again. The first GM said that buying PLEX from anywhere other than CCP is against the rules. Shattered Crystal sells GTCs, which are not PLEX. That is just a loop hole. A ETC can be turned into PLEX soooo. What is your point?
Right. As long as CCP gets somthing from it then it is all good. If buying isk ruins the game like they claim in the rules then why do they encourage buying ETCs and PLEX and being able to sell that on the market? I buy PLEX from CCP and then sell it on the market because some a hole gets away with shooting me in HI-SEC and flys away and I lose isk. So I can't make an honest living in game because of that. And said character is aligned with the CORP that sells the ETC. Why is Crystal selling ETC but they have a pet CORP killing players because they did not pay to mine in HIGH-SEC? If I was CCP, I would tell them to clean up their act and not be aligned to players that do that when money is being exchanged hands. I don't want to buy ETC from a company that runs a pirate mafia corp on the back burner while being happy they are taking my money. Its no different then a president of a country getting money to run for office when the ones donating to campaign are "stealing" off scene. |
Kira Abarai
Nostromo Ishimura Coalation
Mighty.
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Posted - 2013.03.09 02:10:00 -
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Rahdzilla wrote:Kira Abarai wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Rahdzilla wrote:The point Kira was making is that a GM stated that ANY selling that is not from CCP breaks the rules. Then another GM is stating that certain sites are allowed to. He knows that some are allowed to and give a kick back to CCP. Point is two GM's are conflicting in their answer. If that is the case then how can rules be inforced if CCP employee's don't know their own policy. Read it again. The first GM said that buying PLEX from anywhere other than CCP is against the rules. Shattered Crystal sells GTCs, which are not PLEX. That is just a loop hole. A ETC can be turned into PLEX soooo. What is your point? Right. As long as CCP gets somthing from it then it is all good. If buying isk ruins the game like they claim in the rules then why do they encourage buying ETCs and PLEX and being able to sell that on the market? I buy PLEX from CCP and then sell it on the market because some a hole gets away with shooting me in HI-SEC and flys away and I lose isk. So I can't make an honest living in game because of that. And said character is aligned with the CORP that sells the ETC. Why is Crystal selling ETC but they have a pet CORP killing players because they did not pay to mine in HIGH-SEC? If I was CCP, I would tell them to clean up their act and not be aligned to players that do that when money is being exchanged hands. I don't want to buy ETC from a company that runs a pirate mafia corp on the back burner while being happy they are taking my money. Its no different then a president of a country getting money to run for office when the ones donating to campaign are "stealing" off scene.
True story. CCP Do something |
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ISD Tyrozan
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2013.03.09 02:24:00 -
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[i]EDIT: Discussion of private CCP communication is prohibited, therefore multiple threads have been edited and this thread is now locked.
ISD Tyrozan
Lt Commander
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department |
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