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Dominus Immortalus
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.03.11 02:38:00 -
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I'm new to PvP, and after looking over the forums for ships ideas, it seems like most people are saying that all the t1 frigates are pretty good and it all depends on what you are looking for. With that in mind, I'm looking for suggestions on finding a frigate with the following:
1. I want a ship that's main goal is to get close and stay close. I don't really understand tracking or falloff or any of that yet, and so a kiting ship seems tricky. I'll learn all of that later, but for now I just want to fly at the ship while blasting away.
2. I want something that can survive through at least some of my ignorance. A lot of the set ups I've read seem to be really great but have no room for error. That seems to be the case with the faster ships.
3. I would like a ship with some high DPS. I'm not sure if that works with #2 though.
4. I'm going to be PvPing in FW, if that makes any difference.
5. Cheap. Because I'm going to get blown up a lot.
Thanks a lot, in advance. |
Taoist Dragon
Bastion of Mad Behaviour
294
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Posted - 2013.03.11 02:55:00 -
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Dominus Immortalus wrote:I'm new to PvP, and after looking over the forums for ships ideas, it seems like most people are saying that all the t1 frigates are pretty good and it all depends on what you are looking for. With that in mind, I'm looking for suggestions on finding a frigate with the following:
1. I want a ship that's main goal is to get close and stay close. I don't really understand tracking or falloff or any of that yet, and so a kiting ship seems tricky. I'll learn all of that later, but for now I just want to fly at the ship while blasting away.
2. I want something that can survive through at least some of my ignorance. A lot of the set ups I've read seem to be really great but have no room for error. That seems to be the case with the faster ships.
3. I would like a ship with some high DPS. I'm not sure if that works with #2 though.
4. I'm going to be PvPing in FW, if that makes any difference.
5. Cheap. Because I'm going to get blown up a lot.
Thanks a lot, in advance.
What race do you like the looks/style/weapons of?
Tanky like the merlin does just what you say gets in close and hit hard and tanks nicely. Or you could use a Kestrel and use rockets....less dps but you don't have to worry about things like angular velocity and tracking etc.
Pick a race you like the sounds of and grab some fits. or reply here and see what people suggest.
That is the Way, the Tao.
Balance is everything. |
Drake Doe
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
70
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Posted - 2013.03.11 04:51:00 -
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Incursus possibly, if you don't mind buying cap boosters |
Dato Koppla
Rage of Inferno
Malefic Motives
130
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Posted - 2013.03.11 05:24:00 -
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You need to tell us your skills for us to recommend you a specific ship/fit. That being said, I'd suggest any mwd/buffer/scram ships as those tend to be easy to fly and are also quite versatile. |
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
640
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Posted - 2013.03.11 05:57:00 -
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Incursus
Just don't do the stupid dual rep thing.
Beyond Divinity Recruitment is open! |
Zappity
Kurved Space
12
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Posted - 2013.03.11 06:29:00 -
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Incursus and about 3m skill points. Choose between rails and blasters - both are viable depending on the opponent.
Hooray, I'm l33t! -á(Kil2: "The higher their ship losses...the better they're going to be.") |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
2205
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Posted - 2013.03.11 07:03:00 -
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Incursus with one AAR
-á- All I really wanted was to build a castle among the stars - |
Narcotics Dealer
G U N D A M
3
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Posted - 2013.03.11 07:19:00 -
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merlins got the tank, high dps & pretty cheap just get close and blast away u dont have to worry about rep and drone like the incursus seeing u asked for simple mode pvp |
Zappity
Kurved Space
12
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Posted - 2013.03.11 07:31:00 -
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Oh, and avoid Slashers, Executioners, Atrons and Condors if you can't catch them at zero. Unless I'm in the Atron in which case you should come and say hello :)
Hooray, I'm l33t! -á(Kil2: "The higher their ship losses...the better they're going to be.") |
Captain Nares
O3 Corporation
43
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Posted - 2013.03.11 08:16:00 -
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Dominus Immortalus wrote:I<...>
1) Specify preferable tactics. Mobile MWD frig with minimal tank, or slow and thick AB brawler? Or maybe something else?
2) Get EFT/Pyfa. Fit all possible frigs for your tactics. Do some ingame tests if stats doesn't tell you enough.
3) Choose one that seems to suit the role better.
4) Profit!! |
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Seraph Castillon
Justified Chaos
34
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Posted - 2013.03.11 10:55:00 -
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Buffer Merlin. It's a pain to fit without proper fitting skills though. |
feihcsiM
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
175
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Posted - 2013.03.11 12:57:00 -
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I would usually suggest Incursus/Merlin, they are both solid, tanky brawler ships, but recently I've been having great fun on one of my chars with a close-range condor.
Often others do half the work for you and rush in to catch you expecting you to be kite fit.
I've posted a relatively low-skill, relatively low cost version with some room to spare on fitting. Going too cheap on the fit will be counter-productive imho, as you end up losing more ships in the long run. Downgrade stuff to T1 though if you can't fit it yet.
The great thing about this fit is you are completely cap stable even with the small neut running!
Just get in close, overheat your top rack, switch everything on and orbit at about 5km. You're still faster than most other frigs even if you are webbed in return.
It really is easy mode pvp, you have NO tracking issues as you are using rockets, NO cap management to do as you are cap stable, can shut down a lot of other frigate's tank, weapons and tackle with your neutraliser, and are fast enough to often still escape from a 1v1situation if it all goes wrong.
The downside is you are somewhat fragile and can't take a lot of punishment compared to other brawlers - the neut is your 'ace' to try to mitigate this somewhat.
Have fun.
[Condor - Rocket Neut Fit]
[High Slots]
Rocket Launcher II - Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket
Rocket Launcher II - Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket
Rocket Launcher II - Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket
Small Energy Neutralizer II
[Med Slots]
Experimental 1MN Afterburner I
Medium Shield Extender II
Warp Scrambler II
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
[Low Slots]
Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
Damage Control II
[Rigs]
Small Bay Loading Accelerator I
Small Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I
It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine. |
Jane Schereau
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2013.03.11 23:44:00 -
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Dominus Immortalus wrote:I'm new to PvP, and after looking over the forums for ships ideas, it seems like most people are saying that all the t1 frigates are pretty good and it all depends on what you are looking for. With that in mind, I'm looking for suggestions on finding a frigate with the following:
1. I want a ship that's main goal is to get close and stay close. I don't really understand tracking or falloff or any of that yet, and so a kiting ship seems tricky. I'll learn all of that later, but for now I just want to fly at the ship while blasting away.
2. I want something that can survive through at least some of my ignorance. A lot of the set ups I've read seem to be really great but have no room for error. That seems to be the case with the faster ships.
3. I would like a ship with some high DPS. I'm not sure if that works with #2 though.
4. I'm going to be PvPing in FW, if that makes any difference.
5. Cheap. Because I'm going to get blown up a lot.
Thanks a lot, in advance.
You, sir, have just exactly described the Incursus. |
Dominus Immortalus
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:18:00 -
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Thanks for the replies everyone!
It looks like Incursus or Harpy is the way to go. Really, one of the big reasons for me asking these questions was to find a ship that everyone agreed was solid at what it was supposed to do. That way, when I die, it will be all on me. No way can I say that it was because my build was crap. Later, when I get more experience, I'll start messing around with other builds. I'm especially interested in Amarr ships, because I like the looks of their ships the most.
Thanks again! |
Roseline Penshar
Enlightened Academy
2
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:34:00 -
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go for punisher then if you like amarr, well executioner looks good too |
Taoist Dragon
Bastion of Mad Behaviour
298
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Posted - 2013.03.12 01:14:00 -
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The brawling condor above really does chew through most other brawlers you meet.
I stopped using it as I found it too easy and I like a challenge....
That is the Way, the Tao.
Balance is everything. |
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