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Storme
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Posted - 2005.08.19 22:24:00 -
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Anybody got one of these? Can Eve utilise it? (Presumably in stretch mode..)
General impressions?
Is it worth splashing out the cash ? 
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Gun Kata
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Posted - 2005.08.20 09:31:00 -
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Matrox cards have crap performance but are the best for multi monitor environments.
I am not sure if you will get enough peformance from the card when runnig Eve on multi monitors.
Personnaly I would get something else if its 2 monitors you want to run.
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mahhy
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Posted - 2005.08.20 09:49:00 -
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We have some machines at work with Parahelias in them. I tried Eve on them with 3 monitors. Looked really nice, but the performance was not spectacular (20 FPS or less I think), and the overall resolution was not incredible.
Not worth it now-a-days.
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Jouni Kalmar
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Posted - 2005.08.20 09:59:00 -
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I don't have one, however i do occasionally run eve across 2 monitors using a geforce FX 6800, simply have to setup the monitors to dualspan rather than horisontal span and i get a 2560X1024 monitor, though the border of the monitors is annoying.
2 monitors isn't really practical for eve or any other game really due to the loction of the split, however 3 would be nice.
Yes eve does support it. Rather than a matrox if you really want to spend the cash do a bit of research and find out if u can run 3 monitors off 2 PCI express dual head cards (nvidia as i don't think ati support dualspan) however i cant promise that will work, however it it does the performance will be very nice.
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Capsicum
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Posted - 2005.08.20 10:26:00 -
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ATI does do dual screen, but it treats both sides as an individual monitor - this is very hard to program for in DirectX.
Nvidia and Matrox can treat all the screens as one virtual monitor - so it's as easy to code for in DirectX as a single monitor.
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Bragga
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Posted - 2005.08.20 10:27:00 -
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Probably a daft and a technical nightmare, but couldn't you buy a cheap PCI graphics card (from ebay) and then use a dual screen AGP or PCI express card for 2 displays and the PCI for a third. If it were a dual display PCI, perhaps you could use it for 4 displays...
I would imagine that getting this to work would be a small nightmare, but there must be a geek or two here that has or wants to try that out...
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Jouni Kalmar
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Posted - 2005.08.20 12:04:00 -
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 Originally by: Bragga
Probably a daft and a technical nightmare, but couldn't you buy a cheap PCI graphics card (from ebay) and then use a dual screen AGP or PCI express card for 2 displays and the PCI for a third. If it were a dual display PCI, perhaps you could use it for 4 displays...
As Capsicum stated, ATI cards treat each monitor seperately, while a default setup with an nvidia card does this also, it is able to treat multiple monitors as one, therefore the app does not require extra code to run across the 2 monitors treating them as one.
If you have ever used a multi monitor system you will notice that all 3D will run at full frames on one, and completely chug on the other (with non specilised cards of corce), this is what would happen with the way you are suggesting. Although your first 2 monitors, if run on an nvidia card COULD run at full frames over 2 monitors, the 3rd monitor, on the other PCI card would not and no matter how setup would be treated as a seperate monitor to 1 and 2, or 1+2 (combined to be 1 in dualspan mode)
i suggested dual PCI express as nvidia cards like this MAY be able to pull it off. however the issue then faced is you may have a varying framerate as 2 monitors which are running as 1 (1+2) are running off card 1, however monitor 3 would be the only one on card 2, therefore giving it 1/2 the resolution to render.
Oh and my framerate in space in a mission in dualspan at 2560X1024 is around 45 - 50 fps with 1 client running at full detail.
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elFarto
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Posted - 2005.08.20 12:18:00 -
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Edited by: elFarto on 20/08/2005 12:19:18
Originally by: Storme
...Can Eve utilise it? ...
Yep, It can.
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elFarto
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Virtuozzo
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Posted - 2005.08.20 13:56:00 -
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At work I run 3 clients on a system with a parhelia without hickups. So yes, it does. Matrox has made sure to support Eve by default so no tweaking required.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.08.20 14:06:00 -
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Originally by: mahhy
We have some machines at work with Parahelias in them. I tried Eve on them with 3 monitors. Looked really nice, but the performance was not spectacular (20 FPS or less I think), and the overall resolution was not incredible.
Not worth it now-a-days.
The performance at the time was about equivalent to a 9600XT or 9700--and EVE runs fine on those cards--so any chuginess must be related to the processor on that setup. A Parhelia should run EVE as fast as a 7800GTX, as EVE uses far more CPU than graphics power.
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dreddish
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Posted - 2005.08.20 14:10:00 -
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i had one 2 years ago and it was great for eve - over 3 x 21" monitors. After a long eve session your neck begins to hurt using 60" viewing area - and the planets/stations on the outer 2 monitors take on a very odd stretched effect - the likes of which can be observed on one monitor when a planet is in the corner of the screen.
The card is very outdated - even 2 years ago - so i decided to take it back to the store and get a modern 3d card at a third of the price.
Its a nice novelty for a day or two, then u feel awful at how much cash you spent on a crap video card. And its really poor for any other games. However all i just said is based on the one i purchased 2 years ago - maybe they increased the technology??
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Aitrus
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Posted - 2005.08.20 15:29:00 -
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Originally by: Capsicum
ATI does do dual screen, but it treats both sides as an individual monitor - this is very hard to program for in DirectX.
Nvidia and Matrox can treat all the screens as one virtual monitor - so it's as easy to code for in DirectX as a single monitor.
Latest ATI drivers have the spanning feature implimented. I was playing with this the other day with my 9800.
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2005.08.20 15:48:00 -
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Yea, but I believe it's a code trick rather than an actual single-monitor driver implimentation.
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Wendat Huron
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Posted - 2005.08.20 15:53:00 -
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Now if you could only get the 360 panorama view.
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