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![Archbishop Archbishop](/images/people/img7.png)
Archbishop
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Posted - 2005.08.22 04:09:00 -
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
The SPCS has learned today of an alleged organization of lessor holders conducting Gladiator style competitions with slaves. These slaves are reportedly being forced to fight to the death for the entertainment of these holders.
The SPCS strenuously OBJECTS to any form of Gladiator competition. SPCS guidelines specifically state that slaves are to be Enlightened per scripture and afforded safe and livable accomodations. Slaves are not to be harmed or killed without cause. Certainly cheap entertainment such as this is without cause.
To learn of these barbaric contests fills my heart with rage. God has entrusted these beasts to our care so that we may educate and protect them from their own primitive ways. To hear of contests to the death for cheap entertainment is sickening.
Until such time as the Empire formally announces its approval of such proceedings the SPCS will object to any of these contests and will seek to bring these poor gladiator slaves to the protective environment of an SPCS approved slave holding facility.
Archbishop SPCS Director
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![Graelyn Graelyn](/images/people/img6.png)
Graelyn
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Posted - 2005.08.22 04:11:00 -
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Hear hear! *applauds*
To hear of this sort of conduct is utterly sickening. ![Mad](/images/icon_mad.gif)
Not your average Amarrian Loyalist....
CEO - The Aeternus Crusade |
![Ardor Ardor](/images/people/img2.png)
Ardor
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Posted - 2005.08.22 05:59:00 -
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Slaves are a commondity. A holder has the right to do whatever he wants to do with his property. Some people seem to believe each cattle can reach enlightment. Yes, we can try with love and patience but we all know even the most noble Holder fails to teach those who unfit for enlightment. I am talking about Arkon Ardishapur and the wise but expensive decision of his son Idonis, who sacrificed his own property for the safety of the Amarr Empire.
This ancient Gladiator sport is giving slaves a fair opportunity to find Gods judgement quick. A slave who had survived countless Gladiator fights must have found Gods favour. I can't say the same about those slaves who monotonous recite the scriptures, just because I told them so and because they fear my punishment, but don't feel the truth in their hearts.
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![ITX 9 ITX 9](/images/people/img8.png)
ITX 9
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Posted - 2005.08.22 07:37:00 -
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An inquery:
The master wishes to know if he can bid on his own contestants?
If so then as his property I wish to join the slave matches and blast them into tiny pulps of fleshy residue! The Master says he will gladly share the information he learns with the SPCS, however there will be no need to shut it down.
The reason being that there will not be any more participants after I use my new XR-30 tripple action carbine to eliminate them. Also another inquery.
Are the holders entering their slaves into the competitions and the competition organizers fair game as well? I like targets.
The master says I am not to harm them, however if I can get approval from an organization such as the SPCS then perhaps I can use this to pursade the Master to allow me to execute them.
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![Discorporation Discorporation](/images/people/img5.png)
Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.08.22 09:35:00 -
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Originally by: Ardor Slaves are a commondity. A holder has the right to do whatever he wants to do with his property. Some people seem to believe each cattle can reach enlightment. Yes, we can try with love and patience but we all know even the most noble Holder fails to teach those who unfit for enlightment. I am talking about Arkon Ardishapur and the wise but expensive decision of his son Idonis, who sacrificed his own property for the safety of the Amarr Empire.
/echo
Originally by: Ardor This ancient Gladiator sport is giving slaves a fair opportunity to find Gods judgement quick. A slave who had survived countless Gladiator fights must have found Gods favour. I can't say the same about those slaves who monotonous recite the scriptures, just because I told them so and because they fear my punishment, but don't feel the truth in their hearts.
/disagree
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![Lo'Ra Sha'pa'ai Lo'Ra Sha'pa'ai](/images/people/img2.png)
Lo'Ra Sha'pa'ai
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Posted - 2005.08.22 11:09:00 -
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I must say that your words never seize to amaze me... You are truly barbaric in your ways and line of thought... -- Look me in the eyes amarr -- |
![Graelyn Graelyn](/images/people/img7.png)
Graelyn
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Posted - 2005.08.22 11:49:00 -
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Take care that you do not confuse the words of Mr. Discorporation, a fringe-living lifelong murderer and self-declared heretic, as those of your average Amarr citizen.
Not your average Amarrian Loyalist....
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![Discorporation Discorporation](/images/people/img10.png)
Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.08.22 12:59:00 -
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Edited by: Discorporation on 22/08/2005 12:59:42
Originally by: Graelyn Take care that you do not confuse the words of Mr. Discorporation, a fringe-living lifelong murderer and self-declared heretic, as those of your average Amarr citizen.
The only difference is that I speak my mind.
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![Tyrrax Thorrk Tyrrax Thorrk](/images/people/img5.png)
Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2005.08.22 13:09:00 -
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![Tyrrax Thorrk Tyrrax Thorrk](/images/people/img13.png)
Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2005.08.22 13:10:00 -
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"SPCS guidelines specifically state that slaves are to be Enlightened per scripture"
What ?
What an absurd concept. Why would we want to waste our time presenting scripture to minds incapable of grasping it..
At any rate I enjoy these games immensely and you'd be surprised at how loosely the term "lesser" should be interpreted in this case.
The slaves taking part in these contests live considerably better lives than most other slaves, sure they may in some cases be shorter, but when given the choice the gladiator never chooses to return to the boring and safe lifestyle that plagues his fellows. (Maybe because some people choose to force them to read scripture beyond their comprehension?)
The Minmatar are barbarians, they love this kind of thing, and we love to watch and gamble and cheer them on, where's the harm ? They're our property, not our pets, excessive coddling only serves to make them soft and useless.
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![Lo'Ra Sha'pa'ai Lo'Ra Sha'pa'ai](/images/people/img9.png)
Lo'Ra Sha'pa'ai
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Posted - 2005.08.22 13:54:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk "SPCS guidelines specifically state that slaves are to be Enlightened per scripture"
What ?
What an absurd concept. Why would we want to waste our time presenting scripture to minds incapable of grasping it..
At any rate I enjoy these games immensely and you'd be surprised at how loosely the term "lesser" should be interpreted in this case.
The slaves taking part in these contests live considerably better lives than most other slaves, sure they may in some cases be shorter, but when given the choice the gladiator never chooses to return to the boring and safe lifestyle that plagues his fellows. (Maybe because some people choose to force them to read scripture beyond their comprehension?)
The Minmatar are barbarians, they love this kind of thing, and we love to watch and gamble and cheer them on, where's the harm ? They're our property, not our pets, excessive coddling only serves to make them soft and useless.
Is this the average amarr then? How can you subjugate fellow human to such barbarities? How can you call yourselves superior if you only mantain yourselves by the strength of our brothers. If you keep enslaving our people, or any other for that matter, it is only you that will loose in the end... -- Look me in the eyes amarr -- |
![Discorporation Discorporation](/images/people/img5.png)
Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.08.22 13:59:00 -
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Originally by: Lo'Ra Sha'pa'ai
Is this the average amarr then? How can you subjugate fellow human to such barbarities? How can you call yourselves superior if you only mantain yourselves by the strength of our brothers. If you keep enslaving our people, or any other for that matter, it is only you that will loose in the end...
Those brothers can't be very strong if we enslaved them, can they?
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![Ikvar Ikvar](/images/people/img13.png)
Ikvar
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Posted - 2005.08.22 14:05:00 -
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I knew I'd find a use for these slaves eventually! I wonder how many gladiator pits I can fit in the hold of a Bestower?
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![Tyrrax Thorrk Tyrrax Thorrk](/images/people/img4.png)
Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2005.08.22 14:59:00 -
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Quote: Is this the average amarr then? How can you subjugate fellow human to such barbarities? How can you call yourselves superior if you only mantain yourselves by the strength of our brothers. If you keep enslaving our people, or any other for that matter, it is only you that will loose in the end...
Heh don't know about me being average, but yes we Amarr subjugate the lesser races for our own profit, entertainment and pleasure. We honor our ancestors by maintaining the glorious traditions they left us with. It is our right and our duty to do so. I should think you "people" can comprehend the importance of customs and traditions coming from a tribal culture.
As to maintaining ourselves by the strength of our slaves, that's pretty laughable, they provide nothing that couldn't easily be replaced by robotics and skilled hired labor, to put it simply we have no reason nor desire to do so.
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![Khaldorn Murino Khaldorn Murino](/images/people/img8.png)
Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2005.08.22 15:48:00 -
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Originally by: Discorporation
Originally by: Lo'Ra Sha'pa'ai
Is this the average amarr then? How can you subjugate fellow human to such barbarities? How can you call yourselves superior if you only mantain yourselves by the strength of our brothers. If you keep enslaving our people, or any other for that matter, it is only you that will loose in the end...
Those brothers can't be very strong if we enslaved them, can they?
Strong enough to kick your Empire in the teeth and reclaim there freedom after 800 years of enslavement.
But, oh yes, you lost a couple of ships to the Jove. Keep plying that excuse. -
Just a simple warrior.
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![Khaldorn Murino Khaldorn Murino](/images/people/img12.png)
Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2005.08.22 15:51:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk they provide nothing that couldn't easily be replaced by robotics and skilled hired labor, to put it simply we have no reason nor desire to do so.
You could easily replace the billions of enslaved people that do all your work for you now, easily? The cost of hiring skilled labour? The scale of robots to do this work, the reliability and cost of creating and maintaining them? Think beyong your own ego for one secound and you may see alot more than 'easily'
But, what am I saying, I forgot who I was speaking to then. You must be one of the dummest of your kind. -
Just a simple warrior.
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![Tyrrax Thorrk Tyrrax Thorrk](/images/people/img7.png)
Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2005.08.22 16:01:00 -
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Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 22/08/2005 16:04:20
Originally by: Khaldorn Murino
You could easily replace the billions of enslaved people that do all your work for you now, easily? The cost of hiring skilled labour? The scale of robots to do this work, the reliability and cost of creating and maintaining them? Think beyong your own ego for one secound and you may see alot more than 'easily'
But, what am I saying, I forgot who I was speaking to then. You must be one of the dummest of your kind.
So I'm the "dumm" one yet you claim the Minmatar have reclaimed their freedom. You are indeed a fascinating specimen.
I think maybe you'd best refrain from granting us your dazzling insights into the financial and logistical capabilities of the Empire, having some rudimentary knowledge should precede expressing opinions.
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![Lo'Ra Sha'pa'ai Lo'Ra Sha'pa'ai](/images/people/img12.png)
Lo'Ra Sha'pa'ai
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Posted - 2005.08.22 16:06:00 -
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Originally by: Khaldorn Murino
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk they provide nothing that couldn't easily be replaced by robotics and skilled hired labor, to put it simply we have no reason nor desire to do so.
You could easily replace the billions of enslaved people that do all your work for you now, easily? The cost of hiring skilled labour? The scale of robots to do this work, the reliability and cost of creating and maintaining them? Think beyong your own ego for one secound and you may see alot more than 'easily'
But, what am I saying, I forgot who I was speaking to then. You must be one of the dummest of your kind.
Brother, i know you to be a warrior, but no need to behave as badly as them. Rise above those who lack the perception to see the true nature of the human beings. And even tough we understand and hold tradition to be of most importance, we've prove that tradition does not justify such acts as yours... -- Look me in the eyes amarr -- |
![Witch Doctor Witch Doctor](/images/people/img8.png)
Witch Doctor
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Posted - 2005.08.22 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk having some rudimentary knowledge should precede expressing opinions.
It hasn't ever stopped you, has it, slaver?
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![Khaldorn Murino Khaldorn Murino](/images/people/img9.png)
Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2005.08.22 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
I think maybe you'd best refrain from granting us your dazzling insights into the financial and logistical capabilities of the Empire, having some rudimentary knowledge should precede expressing opinions.
Clutching at straws like the rest of your kind.
Please scum, dazzle me with your knowledge of the financial and logistical capabilities of the Empire that you so vainly declare you hold. Prove that the empire could switch easily to paid labour, or even robotic labour.
I await dazzlement. -
Just a simple warrior.
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![Tyrrax Thorrk Tyrrax Thorrk](/images/people/img1.png)
Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2005.08.22 16:42:00 -
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I'm afraid you'll have to go without my assistance, I'm not particularly interested in educating people who seek to tear down the Empire. Don't let me stop your trolling though, it's what you're best at after all.
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![Khaldorn Murino Khaldorn Murino](/images/people/img13.png)
Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2005.08.22 16:47:00 -
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Attempted deflection and then an insult to attempt to derail the valid question.
Pathetic. But then again, you are a slaver.
Anyway, ignoring your insolence, I have seen the SPCS guidelines and that cruel, tortorious regime is indicative of what some slavers consider 'good' treatment. Take note.
My only happiness at this turn of events is that the slaver got his just reward. -
Just a simple warrior.
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![Gift Gift](/images/people/img13.png)
Gift
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Posted - 2005.08.22 17:34:00 -
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Loot sponsored such a contest last night in northern syndicate. It was truly a sight to behold with the main event pitting four hounds against two unarmed gladiators. After a short & brutal match one wounded gladiator stood proudly over the corpses of all four dogs & his comrade. It was beautiful! Next event is scheduled two weeks from today & betting begins at 15:00, the location will be named later.
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![ITX 9 ITX 9](/images/people/img11.png)
ITX 9
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Posted - 2005.08.22 18:55:00 -
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Originally by: Gift Loot sponsored such a contest last night in northern syndicate. It was truly a sight to behold with the main event pitting four hounds against two unarmed gladiators. After a short & brutal match one wounded gladiator stood proudly over the corpses of all four dogs & his comrade. It was beautiful! Next event is scheduled two weeks from today & betting begins at 15:00, the location will be named later.
Does your contest allow robotic competitors?
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![Azador Kavian Azador Kavian](/images/people/img16.png)
Azador Kavian
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Posted - 2005.08.24 03:37:00 -
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Edited by: Azador Kavian on 24/08/2005 03:37:40 Slaves are not human. They are animals. Livestock. Property. I do with my slaves as I wish, it is the beauty of Khanid.
It is commonplace in His Majesty's Kingdom to hold gladiatorial events by placing two slaves against one another. I frequent these shows as they are rather... amusing. I have my own stable of gladiators. Brutors and Civire tend to make the toughest of fighters, although it is always interesting to pit them against the majestic and lithe fighting style of Intakis, or the determination of a Deties. Gallenteans, however, have proved to be rather worthless in the arena.
It seems our Amarrian cousins have a soft side to them. So sad. -------- Venerate almighty Khanid, for without him we are nothing. |
![Yarod Cool Yarod Cool](/images/people/img15.png)
Yarod Cool
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Posted - 2005.08.24 04:52:00 -
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The news reports said these slaves were taught to fly combat ships. The venue was referred to as "underground."
Is this sort of thing illegal? Or is it "underground" because it's disapproved of? Or is it because everyone knows it's ***STUPID*** to give your slaves "powerful combat craft"?
They might as well rule these deaths as suicide.
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![Franx Franx](/images/people/img6.png)
Franx
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Posted - 2005.08.24 11:53:00 -
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Edited by: Franx on 24/08/2005 11:54:20
Originally by: Azador Kavian Edited by: Azador Kavian on 24/08/2005 03:37:40 Slaves are not human. They are animals. Livestock. Property.
Actually... those 'animals' have 46 chromosomes in thier DNA structure, be they Amarrian, Brutor, Civre, Intaki or whatever. What has that number of chromosomes I wonder? Ah yes.... HUMANS! To say otherwise in the face of such hard scientific evidence makes you, slaver, an idiot.
Or are you trying to suggest that you are a mere animal too? Not surprising considering the barbarity with which you throw lives away for your own entertainment.
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![Icarus Starkiller Icarus Starkiller](/images/people/img13.png)
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Posted - 2005.08.24 13:27:00 -
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Originally by: Franx Edited by: Franx on 24/08/2005 11:54:20
Originally by: Azador Kavian Edited by: Azador Kavian on 24/08/2005 03:37:40 Slaves are not human. They are animals. Livestock. Property.
Actually... those 'animals' have 46 chromosomes in thier DNA structure, be they Amarrian, Brutor, Civre, Intaki or whatever. What has that number of chromosomes I wonder? Ah yes.... HUMANS! To say otherwise in the face of such hard scientific evidence makes you, slaver, an idiot.
Or are you trying to suggest that you are a mere animal too? Not surprising considering the barbarity with which you throw lives away for your own entertainment.
The Amarr cannot claim superiority not by a quantifiably different set of chromosomes (they can breed quite nicely with the likes of Matari... and do quite often), but seem to believe a different linking of protien chains makes them somehow 'higher'... unfortunately the viability of their half-breed offspring pointedly shows that they are no more superior corporeally than the Caldari or Gallente (who can also freely intermix with other races and clans producing genetically viable mixed breeds).
When it comes to their hopped up theological beliefs they might be 'superior' in their own minds, but Faith is purely subective to those who practice it or who are ground under it. The old gods of the Matari will have to weigh that out with the corrupt god of the Amarr because we mortals are too busy bickering.
As for Azador... when your slave hounds or dairy herds strap themselves into Pods and begin blowing up your pretty ships I will accept being called 'livestock'. I will fly happily alongside cows, sows, and brood mares for the opportunity to show you with 'livestock' can do. Somehow I doubt I'll find myself doing that anytime soon.
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![Archbishop Archbishop](/images/people/img5.png)
Archbishop
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Posted - 2005.08.24 14:55:00 -
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The son of one of these lessor holders has smuggled information to the SPCS regarding an upcoming gladiator slave ship duel. The SPCS plans to attend in an attempt to stop the duel and rescue these poor creatures from the grips of barbarism. If rescued the gladiator slaves will be turned over to the Society for Religious Education for retraining and reacclimation to the Amarrian way of life.
Details will follow and some SPCS Advisors will be requested to help in the operation along with some CVA and AM forces. The match in question will take place in about two weeks we're just awaiting more details on the location and exact time.
The SPCS will contact those needed to help in this mission of mercy.
Archbishop SPCS Director
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![Discorporation Discorporation](/images/people/img6.png)
Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.08.24 15:01:00 -
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Originally by: Archbishop
The son of one of these lessor holders has smuggled information to the SPCS regarding an upcoming gladiator slave ship duel. The SPCS plans to attend in an attempt to stop the duel and rescue these poor creatures from the grips of barbarism. If rescued the gladiator slaves will be turned over to the Society for Religious Education for retraining and reacclimation to the Amarrian way of life.
They can hardly be barbarians if they fly spaceships can they.
Originally by: Archbishop Details will follow and some SPCS Advisors will be requested to help in the operation along with some CVA and AM forces. The match in question will take place in about two weeks we're just awaiting more details on the location and exact time.
The SPCS will contact those needed to help in this mission of mercy.
Archbishop SPCS Director
Kill them allready, they're obviously bloodthirsty 'animals' and ar eno good to the slave stocks..
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